Enough Already!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

King of bitterness.

I was shooting for Emperor for Life.

Just another thing for you to be bitter about.

[Gunakor]

Kiwon, I don't know how closely you followed the campaigns, but there was very huge problem with McCains campaign that I'm sure cost him millions of votes. That being, he never bothered to clearly explain to Americans what he'd do once elected. He spent all of his time reminding Americans how wrong Obama's plans were, and little time explaining to Americans why his plan was right. To be honest, I have no fucking clue what McCain was going to try to do - other than continue fighting a war indefinitely that America cannot afford forever. Nobody knows what McCain's economic plan was. He never really told us. Obama on the other hand was extremely clear about his economic plan. Whether you agree with it or not, at least you knew what it was. You can't trust a candidate who won't tell the people he wishes to lead what he wants to do. We elected the guy who told us what he is going to do, not the guy who said he was wrong but gave no alternative. If McCains economic plan to lead us out of this recession was so much better than Obama's, then why in the world wouldn't he take the time to clearly explain that to the American people who he'd hoped would vote for him?

LOL--HUH?

If you know, please explain McCain's economic policies to me then Sheeps. Because I don't think he really told us. In fact, I don't think he had a clue how to pull us out of this recession. If you think his economic plan was better, that means you must have at least known the details of that plan. Do tell.

[HowardRoark]

Kiwon, I don't know how closely you followed the campaigns, but there was very huge problem with McCains campaign that I'm sure cost him millions of votes. That being, he never bothered to clearly explain to Americans what he'd do once elected. He spent all of his time reminding Americans how wrong Obama's plans were, and little time explaining to Americans why his plan was right. To be honest, I have no fucking clue what McCain was going to try to do - other than continue fighting a war indefinitely that America cannot afford forever. Nobody knows what McCain's economic plan was. He never really told us. Obama on the other hand was extremely clear about his economic plan. Whether you agree with it or not, at least you knew what it was. You can't trust a candidate who won't tell the people he wishes to lead what he wants to do. We elected the guy who told us what he is going to do, not the guy who said he was wrong but gave no alternative. If McCains economic plan to lead us out of this recession was so much better than Obama's, then why in the world wouldn't he take the time to clearly explain that to the American people who he'd hoped would vote for him?

LOL--HUH?

If you know, please explain McCain's economic policies to me then Sheeps. Because I don't think he really told us. In fact, I don't think he had a clue how to pull us out of this recession. If you think his economic plan was better, that means you must have at least known the details of that plan. Do tell.

I agree with you. I also agree with Bobble that McCain ran a bad campaign. I also think that what got/gets us all up in arms is the HORRIBLE economic plan of Obama. But I will admit we were not cheering on McCain's plan. The only thing he did say specifically was that he would make the Bush tax cuts permanent. And even lower some (cap gains/dividends). When he started talking about buying up mortgages he lost me. Literally and figuratively. What seemed to galvanize the Right was the crazy direction in which Obama wants to turn our country. I still beleive that. But I do agree with your point.

Stephen Hayes wrote a good article about McCain:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/771vfzje.asp

For those of you who don't know, Hayes also has a pretty good Packer blog:

http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/

[bobblehead]

I agree with you Bobble.

But, i'm not inclined to agree as much on the soul. I think you and the rest of the ultra conservs have really hijacked the party. Libertarians and such were considered fringe in the 70s.

But, i have less concern about your breed of conservatism then i do with the RR. Ultimately, they are killing the party.

BTW, just a little libertarian history...i'm quite good friends with Andre's son. Course he doesn't have very warm fuzzy feelings toward his dad. Not exactly a great father.

Again, not sure how you can label me an ultra conserv. On social issues I'm quite liberal compared to the right, and on economics I'm simply a scientist....the lefts idea of redistribution class warfare diminishes wealth enhancement...Its science, i could no more support obamonomics than I could support 2+2=5. wealth is created through free market capitalism and that is an indisputable fact. Sometimes factors other than normal creation can call for gov't intervention such as infrastructure which won't get built privately, but the private sector will use it to create far more wealth (the real multiplier effect) and gov't spending is good...otherwise it is simply detrimental and every shred of evidence supports my stance.

[MJZiggy]

Bobble, do you KNOW what his economics are EXACTLY? Have you read the website that outlines them? If so, can you tell me what he was talking about when he talked about personal responsibility? I heard him use that phrase a few times. If he's doing redistributional socialism, why is he talking about personal responsibility?

[mraynrand]

. If he's doing redistributional socialism, why is he talking about personal responsibility?

It polled well.

[GrnBay007]

^^^

New additions to your family mrray?

Very cute BTW.

[MJZiggy]

. If he's doing redistributional socialism, why is he talking about personal responsibility?

It polled well.

Have you read the new site?

[mraynrand]

. If he's doing redistributional socialism, why is he talking about personal responsibility?

It polled well.

Have you read the new site?

Yes, I saw it. It polled well when Axelrod used it before.

[bobblehead]

Bobble, do you KNOW what his economics are EXACTLY? Have you read the website that outlines them? If so, can you tell me what he was talking about when he talked about personal responsibility? I heard him use that phrase a few times. If he's doing redistributional socialism, why is he talking about personal responsibility?

I would put money on me having read his website more in depth than 99% of the population.

[texaspackerbacker]

It is, of course, all about race and racism in the sense that 95% or whatever of the black vote was delivered to the extreme leftist candidate, despite the fact that much of what he stands for is just as much an anathema to the majority of black people as it is to the huge majoirty of white people.

However, the sick and disgusting truth is that if a decent normal black person--one who is in tune with the views and values of his/her own race, not to mention America in general had been running--Condoleeza Rice, Michael Steele, J.C. Watts, Ken Blackwell, among others, there would NOT have been such a near-unanimous black vote, there would not have been the enthusiasm, etc. Why? Because the overseers of the leftist plantation--the so-called "leadership" of the blacks are so hopelessly in league with the political left that they would have fought hard to keep blacks from voting for one of their own--if that black person had decent normal American views and values--which Obama of course, does not.

Add to that the absolutely WEIRD form of racism exhibited by white liberals--shamefully so by many right here in this forum--of "white guilt"--more accurately, "white LIBERAL guilt", and you have the recipe for the debacle that has befallen America.

We will survive, though, as the leftists and Obamaphiles bungle the economy and overplay their hand, turning off many who they conned, on social issues. The only thing we might NOT survive is if Obama and the imbeciles he will have working for him allow terrorist hits. I wonder if Jame Gorelick, the person MOST responsible for allowing the 9/11 terrorist hits, will get a job for Obama. He'll probably make her director of homeland security.

[GrnBay007]

Obamaphiles

You sure do crack me up sometimes with the stuff you come up with.

[Iron Mike]

Obamaphiles

You sure do crack me up sometimes with the stuff you come up with.

Obamanation.