So Obama voters....

[packinpatland]

Why the distain for having a degree(s)? Ivy leage doesn't equate to pinhead.

I only have disdain for ivy league educations when morons equate them with being somehow better...almost like royalty. Its irrational.

On the flipside I would want my child to have an ivy league education, but not for my child to have the arrogant snide behavior that usually goes with it. Just cuz you went to classes and absorbed material in books does not make you special in any way.

give me the guy who can actually run a profitable business and better the lives of all his customers over the guy who can get past the harvard cariculam.

The doubly amazing thing about libs is that GW graduated from Yale, but that didn't matter...he was a stammering dufus. He can't think. He is an idiot....yet he still managed to navigate the yale program while being drunk the whole time. Now if a liberal with no life went to yale and got slightly better grades because they had no life and studied nonstop, then that person would be the third coming (obama is already the second).

I wish I had a nickle for every bumper sticker that says 'Proud Parent of an Honor Roll Student', or others that are similar. Of course you want the best for your children, are proud of them, and they deserve what they earn.
Not all Ivy league students are arrogant, not all are legacied, not all had parents or grandparents donate buildings. There's a pretty good percentage that are there because they worked hard and will graduate with school loans. When it comes to hiring, that Yale, Harvard or UPenn degree may get you in the door, where a degree from Eastern CT might not.

I agree with you 100% with 'give me the guy who can actually run a profitable business and better the lives of all his customers over the guy who can get past the harvard cariculam.' But there are some areas in life where a degree is a must, and getting one from a school that sets the bar higher is not a bad thing. There's no substitute for experience, but until that's collected, a good degree from a good school could make the difference.

[sheepshead]

In related development this excerpted from our buddy Sean Penn:


# In an private interview with Penn prior to the election, Cuban President Raul Castro said, "We want Obama." Penn agreed not to publish that until after the election.

# Cuban President Raul Castro wants to have his "no preconditions" meeting with Obama at Guantanamo Bay.


Hop at the end of that long line Raul my main man.

[packinpatland]

Cuban President Raul Castro said in an interview released Wednesday that he would like to meet President-elect Barack Obama on "neutral ground" — and he suggested the American naval base at Guantanamo Bay.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081126/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_castro_penn

Where is the harm in meeting?

[sheepshead]

With no preconditions. Understand that part? Michelle had preconditions to go on the view. That cant happen. All he is looking for is a photo of he and Barry with a couple of Cubans, Cubra Libras to show every other dictator in the world and it justifies his existence for the next 100 years.
It cant happen-period. This will be explained to Barry soon enough. Thinking like this is astounding to me sometimes. No president has met with a sitting dictator unconditionally or at all to my knowledge. Hillary lip locking Ol' Yasser was a notable exception, but he was just a terrorist that wanted Israel off the map. Good thing we dont have any more like that. oh wait....

[packinpatland]

Yes, I do understand that part. I think too much has been put on that word 'preconditions'. No world leader is going to go into a meeting unprepared and give away the company store. In this day of warfare as we know it, talking can't hurt.

Obama has said: "So as a matter of principle, I will talk to any head of state after sufficient preparation in order to lay out what our interests are and to listen to them, but not to concede on the issues that are in our long term national security interest."

[sheepshead]

preparation and preconditions are very different. Preconditions like..oh let your people build a church. Let gays live among you. Blacks are not slaves. Oh and heaven forbid, hold a fair and free election. Peaceful protest. Free trade. the list is endless pick a few.

[sheepshead]

In other words if the United States give the dictators hope, the people will have none.

[MadScientist]

With no preconditions. Understand that part? Michelle had preconditions to go on the view. That cant happen. All he is looking for is a photo of he and Barry with a couple of Cubans, Cubra Libras to show every other dictator in the world and it justifies his existence for the next 100 years.
It cant happen-period. This will be explained to Barry soon enough. Thinking like this is astounding to me sometimes. No president has met with a sitting dictator unconditionally or at all to my knowledge. Hillary lip locking Ol' Yasser was a notable exception, but he was just a terrorist that wanted Israel off the map. Good thing we dont have any more like that. oh wait....

It depends on your definition of dictator. Presidents met with Soviet premiers many times. Nixon went to China. These meetings did not have preconditions that the Russians / Chinese agree to our demands before we even met with them. Stop basing conclusions off of campaign talking points.

[sheepshead]

Fuck You. Don't lecture me and don't presume to know where my conclusions come from. They surely don't come from websites like the ones you just googled in order to try to refute my post.

[packinpatland]

Fuck You. Don't lecture me and don't presume to know where my conclusions come from. They surely don't come from websites like the ones you just googled in order to try to refute my post.

Stop it! Is there one good reason why you can't be nice? Geeeezzz

[sheepshead]

I am, I dont think I need to be lectured to and have some lame brain wag his finger at me like some know it all.

[packinpatland]

I have a bar of soap that says you should chose different words.

[retailguy]

All good except for the most important position of all, Secretary of State.

Of all the choices possible, Hillary was arguably the worst.

I think it's awesome. really I do. You elected a "career politician". What did you expect? The most politically correct choice, of course. As Rush says, "keep your enemies closer".

Hillary can't run against Obama in 4 years. Now she's part of his administration.

It was a stroke of brilliance.

You're not as clever as you think. When was the last time a sitting president eligible for reelection got serious competition from his own party?

It wasn't about "being clever". Though I understand why you think that.

I really do think it was brilliant.

The guy is a politician through and through. He always plans for the downside. If the economy still sucks in 4 years, he'll face competition. If we have terrorist attacks in the next 4 years, he'll face competition. (I'm talking about his own party, btw, he'll face a republican no matter what). Any number of things could go wrong that could cause him to have stiff competition. Some he has control over and could screw up, and some he doesn't have control over and will still take the fall over.

One competition he won't have is Hillary, who garnered over 12 million of his parties votes in this primary.

It really was brilliant.

[packinpatland]

It was 18 million RG.
And......think this has any merit?

http://blog.thehill.com/2008/12/03/hillary-clinton-constitutionally-ineligible-to-serve-as-secretary-of-state/

[MJZiggy]

He's using 'emoluments' as a descriptor to both the eligibility and the benefits of the position. Which is it?