Do you buy into the 2012 'theory'

[Tyrone Bigguns]

The Mayan's had SEVERAL calendars.

I thought I had a decent education, but this is the first I've heard about a culture, any culture, having more than one calendar.

Please, enlighten me. I sincerely wish to know more.

Off the top of my head i know they had the long count calendar..which is the one that is being discussed here, they had a year calendar..the kind that is used for day to day, month to month stuff (planting, harvesting, etc.) and they had a religious calendar.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

WTF are you talking about? I didn't refer to your post. I commented on the term "doomsday." It isn't all about you. Your narcissism is frightening.

But, if you need some education on the subject, not a problem. The Mayan's had SEVERAL calendars.

Is it doomsday when you reach the end of this year's calendar? No. And, the same for them. It just starts over.

P.S. Nobody wastes time disproving a negative.

I put up the calendar and that was what you where responding about no? If not my bad but you are talking alot of shit considering you are the biggest know-it-all attention whore on the web.

Did they have several? Never heard that. Where they like the one I posted and did they end when the last one started? I seriously want to know.

BTW - Dont act ignorant. THe Mayan calendar wasnt a one year thing so comparing it to our modern calendars is BS.

P.S. You dont ant to waste time proving something you dont know shit about. Stick to shit you studied cuz we all being wrong really pisses you off.

Again, all i commented on was the word doomsday. At no point will you find anything from the mayans that talks about doomsday.

Calendar: answered in response to Tarlam.

ONe year: They did have a year to year calendar.

P.S.: Please have someone translate that for you. It appears to be in english but it doesn't make any sense. Putting random english words together doesn't make a sentence.

[oregonpackfan]

The day the world comes to an end is when the Detroit Lions win the Super Bowl!

By that standard, we should be around for quite a few centuries....

[MadScientist]

The day the world comes to an end is when the Detroit Lions win the Super Bowl!

By that standard, we should be around for quite a few centuries....

No, that's only half the doomsday calendar. The true end comes when the Lions win the SB the same year the Cubs win the Series. By the time this happens, the earth should no longer be habitable anyway.

[gex]

Does anyone else find it completely vain when people and religious folk talk about the end of times during their lifetime. Hardly ever hear them say "the world is coming to an end in 1200 years", why's it always gotta be happening now?

[texaspackerbacker]

Does anyone else find it completely vain when people and religious folk talk about the end of times during their lifetime. Hardly ever hear them say "the world is coming to an end in 1200 years", why's it always gotta be happening now?

It's more than that, gex. The Judeo-Christian idea of 6,000 years of human self-rule before Christ's Millenial Kingdom, the Muslim thing about the 12th Imam, and several other religious countdowns are all coming together.

Add that to the increase in population, the advances in weaponry, etc., and the end times talk is reasonable, or at very least, understandable.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Does anyone else find it completely vain when people and religious folk talk about the end of times during their lifetime. Hardly ever hear them say "the world is coming to an end in 1200 years", why's it always gotta be happening now?

It's more than that, gex. The Judeo-Christian idea of 6,000 years of human self-rule before Christ's Millenial Kingdom, the Muslim thing about the 12th Imam, and several other religious countdowns are all coming together.

Really? Judeo Christian? Please, i beg you, stop showing your ignorance in regards to Judeo.

[texaspackerbacker]

Does anyone else find it completely vain when people and religious folk talk about the end of times during their lifetime. Hardly ever hear them say "the world is coming to an end in 1200 years", why's it always gotta be happening now?

It's more than that, gex. The Judeo-Christian idea of 6,000 years of human self-rule before Christ's Millenial Kingdom, the Muslim thing about the 12th Imam, and several other religious countdowns are all coming together.

Really? Judeo Christian? Please, i beg you, stop showing your ignorance in regards to Judeo.

The Jews are expecting the "Messiah", and the same Old Testament prophecies that Christians cite are applicable to Jews--basically expecting the SAME Messiah the first time as we Christians expect to return.

Do you have some contradictory Judaism teachings in mind? If so, let's hear them.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Does anyone else find it completely vain when people and religious folk talk about the end of times during their lifetime. Hardly ever hear them say "the world is coming to an end in 1200 years", why's it always gotta be happening now?

It's more than that, gex. The Judeo-Christian idea of 6,000 years of human self-rule before Christ's Millenial Kingdom, the Muslim thing about the 12th Imam, and several other religious countdowns are all coming together.

Really? Judeo Christian? Please, i beg you, stop showing your ignorance in regards to Judeo.

The Jews are expecting the "Messiah", and the same Old Testament prophecies that Christians cite are applicable to Jews--basically expecting the SAME Messiah the first time as we Christians expect to return.

Do you have some contradictory Judaism teachings in mind? If so, let's hear them.

No, you idiot. I'm referring to the 6,000 years. Your lack of knowledge regarding dates is hilarious.

[texaspackerbacker]

Does anyone else find it completely vain when people and religious folk talk about the end of times during their lifetime. Hardly ever hear them say "the world is coming to an end in 1200 years", why's it always gotta be happening now?

It's more than that, gex. The Judeo-Christian idea of 6,000 years of human self-rule before Christ's Millenial Kingdom, the Muslim thing about the 12th Imam, and several other religious countdowns are all coming together.

Really? Judeo Christian? Please, i beg you, stop showing your ignorance in regards to Judeo.

The Jews are expecting the "Messiah", and the same Old Testament prophecies that Christians cite are applicable to Jews--basically expecting the SAME Messiah the first time as we Christians expect to return.

Do you have some contradictory Judaism teachings in mind? If so, let's hear them.

No, you idiot. I'm referring to the 6,000 years. Your lack of knowledge regarding dates is hilarious.

I don't know what your referring to--and as usual, I don't suppose you have the balls to spell it out, but I'm referring to the six days of Genesis and the statement that "a day is as a thousand years"--six days followed by a day of rest/six thousand years of human self-rule followed by the thousand year Millenial Kingdom. Feel free not to believe it--I would expect nothing else from the likes of you, but you can't deny the existence of the concept--among Jews as well as Christians.

[MJZiggy]

Just a question, but haven't humans been ruling the earth for 30,000 years now?

[texaspackerbacker]

Just a question, but haven't humans been ruling the earth for 30,000 years now?

We could go around and around on a discussion about that, and I'd be very happy to do it.

For purpose of this thread, though, I'm talking about the prevailing belief of the majority of literalist Christians and Jews. You may not be a believer, but the large-scale existence of the belief is undeniable.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Does anyone else find it completely vain when people and religious folk talk about the end of times during their lifetime. Hardly ever hear them say "the world is coming to an end in 1200 years", why's it always gotta be happening now?

It's more than that, gex. The Judeo-Christian idea of 6,000 years of human self-rule before Christ's Millenial Kingdom, the Muslim thing about the 12th Imam, and several other religious countdowns are all coming together.

Really? Judeo Christian? Please, i beg you, stop showing your ignorance in regards to Judeo.

The Jews are expecting the "Messiah", and the same Old Testament prophecies that Christians cite are applicable to Jews--basically expecting the SAME Messiah the first time as we Christians expect to return.

Do you have some contradictory Judaism teachings in mind? If so, let's hear them.

No, you idiot. I'm referring to the 6,000 years. Your lack of knowledge regarding dates is hilarious.

I don't know what your referring to--and as usual, I don't suppose you have the balls to spell it out, but I'm referring to the six days of Genesis and the statement that "a day is as a thousand years"--six days followed by a day of rest/six thousand years of human self-rule followed by the thousand year Millenial Kingdom. Feel free not to believe it--I would expect nothing else from the likes of you, but you can't deny the existence of the concept--among Jews as well as Christians.

As usual, you can't get over your own biases.

Whose calendar are you using. That is about as big a hint as i can give you.

[texaspackerbacker]

Are you Jewish--or somehow an expert on Judaism?

It's true, there's a discrepancy of about 243 years in the Jewish calculation back to Adam compared to Ussher, the guy who added it all up for Christians. Who knows, maybe the Jews have it right--since Christ didn't return in 1996 or 2000. The point is, though, both religions recognize the concept of 6,000 years of human self-rule, symbolized by the 6 days of creation, followed by the 1,000 year millenial kingdom, symbolized by the Sabbath.

The original question was, why do so many people think those end times are right around now? By the Christian calculation, it is around now. By the Jewish calculation, it's still a couple hundred years away.

I'd be shocked if you claimed to be a believer in either one.