9-33 years: "The Juice" gets squeezed for good

[texaspackerbacker]

I would like to challenge anyone who thinks anything I write to be "extremist" to state specifically "how" and "why" they see whatever it is as "extremist"--and NOT merely normal Americanism.


I honestly don't know why I've always been sympathetic to O.J., but I am.

In this recent case, it just seems like he was behaving like a natural man--going after something he perceived to have been stolen from him. And I don't care what the law says, kidnapping when the person kidnapped never leaves the room? Come on. That's bullshit. I could see myself--and truth be told, almost any of us--behaving about the same in similar circumstances.

Now, I'll sit back and listen to all the whiny do-gooder shame-on-you types spew about how they're above all that.

I would have voted Not Guilty in his murder case too. The inept prosecutors never crossed the reasonable doubt threshhold. "He probably did it" doesn't cut it in the American judicial system.

Besides, by the Texas legal doctrine of "she needed killing", she did ...... and the boyfriend even more so.

The above is extremely not normal Americanism, dude.

I disagree. Among a bunch of elitists and dilettantes, yes, what I say may be pretty extreme. But among regular people speaking from the gut--what they really feel instead of worrying what whoever is gonna think and whine about them, this is not the least extremist. I would say, "ask around", but you forum negativists would probably be perceived (correctly) as the p.c. police, and not get honest responses.

[MJZiggy]

I think once someone is your ex, what they do or with whom is no longer your business, so no matter who she was sleeping with, no, she did not "need killin'"

Seriously, dude, it's not about being PC. That is just over-the-top not what one expects to hear from a self-proclaimed decent American.

[Bretsky]

I'm just saying what is routinely said in bars and factories and offices, everywhere that intellectually honest men gather and speak without fear of the p.c. crowd.

Do we have nobody in here who admits he would go in and kick some ass if somebody stole something from him and he knew where to find the thief?

Do we have nobody in here who at least sympathizes with a guy who offs his slut ex-wife and her boyfriend? Sure, most of us wouldn't do it, but why? Because it isn't worth the time you do if you get caught, that's all.

Whine on, you p.c. types. I bet you felt sorry for Russert too.

Piss Poor Tex

The idea that he was beating the crap out of her might have had a bit to do with her life decisions as well

You don't kill somebody

[packinpatland]

I'm just saying what is routinely said in bars and factories and offices, everywhere that intellectually honest men gather and speak without fear of the p.c. crowd.

Do we have nobody in here who admits he would go in and kick some ass if somebody stole something from him and he knew where to find the thief?

Do we have nobody in here who at least sympathizes with a guy who offs his slut ex-wife and her boyfriend? Sure, most of us wouldn't do it, but why? Because it isn't worth the time you do if you get caught, that's all.

Whine on, you p.c. types. I bet you felt sorry for Russert too.

Every family, in this case forum, has it's class A-one a*&%hole........
you Tex, fit the bill.

[KYPack]

Well, I won't jump you too bad, but you are one strange bird, Tex.

"intellectually honest men"

Are you shittin' me?

Mebbe it outta be.."where intellectually honest men get together and bump each other with their hoods".

[Tarlam!]

I think once someone is your ex, what they do or with whom is no longer your business, so no matter who she was sleeping with, no, she did not "need killin'"

This was my thought, too. And, men should NEVER, under any circumstances beat women. Especially not men built to play in the NFL.

I wonder what our resident Black Panther Mobb Deep says about OJ. Prolly that he was framed by Uncle Tom.

[Rastak]

I'll tell you how I feel.


Sad.


That's it and I really do feel, sad. Here's a guy I really looked up to. I watched most of his trial on court TV. I was convinced based on testimony that he was guilty.

He's become a rather pathetic figure. I'd have alot more sympathy for him had he not bought plastic and rope and such indicating he fully intended to kill his ex. Had it been a crime of passion I might have felt a small bit of understanding but how can you based on the facts?

This latest thing which finally did him in just strikes me as the act of a man losing his mind and it makes me feel sad. Tar, I'm guessing you missed this but this cat was unreal to watch in the 70's on the football field.

Just unreal. He was ok to listen to in the booth. His movies were pretty average. But I always thought the juice was ass kicking.


When I saw him crying and begging for mercy in court today it made me nothing but sad. How a guy could do so much damage to other people then finish himself off is beyond me.

[Tarlam!]

Tar, I'm guessing you missed this but this cat was unreal to watch in the 70's on the football field.

I never saw him play, Ras. I was in D.C. visiting my late wife's Aunt when the infamous car chase went down, so I was brought up to speed. The court case was carried here in Germany.

I read up on the guy and know of his legend. He was one of the first blacks that reportedly crossed the race barrier and was fully accepted by whites - that's what I read.

[Rastak]

Tar, I'm guessing you missed this but this cat was unreal to watch in the 70's on the football field.

I never saw him play, Ras. I was in D.C. visiting my late wife's Aunt when the infamous car chase went down, so I was brought up to speed. The court case was carried here in Germany.

I read up on the guy and know of his legend. He was one of the first blacks that reportedly crossed the race barrier and was fully accepted by whites - that's what I read.

Ah, that could be but I always accepted people of any color from a very young age. My point is, you should have watched that guy play. Very sad.

[Tarlam!]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TomvQ4Nk3k

[Rastak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TomvQ4Nk3k

You da man Tar.....very cool. Thanks.


edit:

Check this out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7Id3ioATXo&feature=related

[texaspackerbacker]

I'll tell you how I feel.


Sad.


That's it and I really do feel, sad. Here's a guy I really looked up to. I watched most of his trial on court TV. I was convinced based on testimony that he was guilty.

He's become a rather pathetic figure. I'd have alot more sympathy for him had he not bought plastic and rope and such indicating he fully intended to kill his ex. Had it been a crime of passion I might have felt a small bit of understanding but how can you based on the facts?

This latest thing which finally did him in just strikes me as the act of a man losing his mind and it makes me feel sad. Tar, I'm guessing you missed this but this cat was unreal to watch in the 70's on the football field.

Just unreal. He was ok to listen to in the booth. His movies were pretty average. But I always thought the juice was ass kicking.


When I saw him crying and begging for mercy in court today it made me nothing but sad. How a guy could do so much damage to other people then finish himself off is beyond me.

First of all, addressing the legal aspect, just because most people, me included, THOUGHT he did it following the trial doesn't mean he should have been found guilty. The prosecutors were mental light weights going up against Johnny Cochran and the Dream Team. Several issues of reasonable doubt that might have been beatable weren't even addressed by the prosecution. Any juror doing his duty had to conclude the burden of proof wasn't met.

Secondly, the moral aspect--his ex and the guy "needing killing", I'm just saying, that's a gut reaction I and I firmly believe the huge majority of men would have--not to act on, but to sympathize with somebody who did--assuming O.J. actually did what he was accused of. Sure, most women and some guys think otherwise. I'm just saying that most "intellectually honest" men--those not afraid to express their true gut reaction--can understand and empathize with O.J.

Thirdly, as for the current case, the legal definition of kidnapping is pure bullshit. Detaining somebody in a fixed location for a few minutes? Come on. That's just ridiculous. And armed robbery of somebody in possession of YOUR OWN stolen goods? While meeting the letter of the law, that's pretty damn justifiable, if you ask me, and for the judge--a vengeful female judge sentencing based on the verdict of an all white jury--to throw the book at O.J., that, IMO, is just wrong--an illegal creeping in of vengeance from the perceived injustice 13 years ago.

I don't suppose any of you holier-than-thou elitists and p.c. freaks would care to discuss the facts as I have laid them out there.

[Bretsky]

this plane is now landing in the Romper Room and holier than now elitists can have at it

[Harlan Huckleby]

ok bretsky, I'm here.


I think in Tex's original comment, he was talking about the recent case of OJ reclaiming his sports memorabilia, not OJ the slasher from 15 years ago.

several people misunderstood and had a cow

then Tex came back in swinging, now offering his wisdom on OJ part one, validating the earlier misguided revulsion.

Or maybe I don't understand this thread and am not interested enough to read the long posts. ya, that's probably right.

[Tarlam!]

I'm no elitist and I have no idea what a PC person is, but, you just don't have the right to bash and kill your ex-wife.

I can understand coming home, catching your wife in bed and killing her. It aint right, you shouldn't kill period, but, shit, I could understand why one would be inclined to do it.

OJ, apparently, was a serial wife basher. He didn't have a slip of the hand, he bashed his wife. Not good. And nobody, who has any self respect, male female or androgynous, will find that to be a good thing. Men should not hit women.

So, she had a right to dump him, cause he bashed her. If anything, Tex, OJ needed killin' for bashin' his wife.

I think your opinion on this is really screwed up.