(Senator?) Caroline Kennedy

[MJZiggy]

Which of her values do you share and what has she done in office that you admire?

[sheepshead]

You can start here:

http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2008/08/30/sarah-palin-vs-barack-obama/

[MJZiggy]

No inflammatory bias there...

I'm sick of this argument. She lost. It's debatable that she may have cost McCain the election and (fact that you've conveniently forgotten) I've already given her props for getting elected in Alaska). It doesn't make her ready to be VP. You asked a question, I answered it and you've done everything you could think of to invalidate my answer. In order to do that, I'll need something more specific than she's the governor. You've even gone so far as to say that I'm against her belief in family. Bullshit. She can believe what she wants about family, but even in light of what happened, she has still suggested the desire to make her opinion on family public school policy. That's what set it off for me and it's gonna take one helluva trump card to change my view of her. Ronnie accomplished the task. Don't think Sarah will ever match him, but if she does, I may change my opinion of her. Until then, I have no reason to.

[digitaldean]

I'll need something more specific than she's the governor.

You can check out the list I compiled replying to you in the PR Gals thread. Many more people have become VP with less credentials.

[TravisWilliams23]

I will take issue with those who suggest Kennedy's done NOTHING. She has done things (just try writing a book once)

but to just call and say she'd like the seat and have it handed to her based solely on her last name would be irresponsible.

John Grogan wrote Marley & Me. Great book. Doesn't qualify him to
be considered a Senator. He's also written other books and has held a
real job. But if I could vote between the him and Caroline, Grogan
would get my vote because he has an idea of what us common folk go
through on a daily basis. Can't say the same for Kennedy.

I believe this is exactly what she has done. "Hello, I'm a Kennedy
and want that NY Senate seat."

[Kiwon]

I'll need something more specific than she's the governor.

You can check out the list I compiled replying to you in the PR Gals thread. Many more people have become VP with less credentials.

It won't matter. Certain women have their (finger)nails out for Sarah Palin.

There's an irrationality at work here. She's always be too this or too that. The bottom line is that she will never be accepted by them.

It reminds me of office politics when female employees get a strong female boss. ( Sounds chauvinistic, but com'on, gals, 'fess up, you know it's the truth)

[packinpatland]

You can start here:



http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2...-barack-obama/

Not that it really matters, but your ^ reference says she was mayor for 10 years...........Palin served two three-year terms (1996–2002) as the mayor of Wasilla. I have to say, as comedy goes, that whole thing was pretty darn funny.

[sheepshead]

You can start here:



http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/2...-barack-obama/

Not that it really matters, but your ^ reference says she was mayor for 10 years...........Palin served two three-year terms (1996–2002) as the mayor of Wasilla. I have to say, as comedy goes, that whole thing was pretty darn funny.

Yeah but the correct years are printed above that line. While there's an amount of sarcasm on that site, the Obama side is entirely accurate as far as I can see. Besides, where else are you gonna find a comparison like this?? MSNBC?

bottom line...jobs like Senator from NY are way too important, especially in these times, to hand them out to bored housewives.

[MJZiggy]

I will take issue with those who suggest Kennedy's done NOTHING. She has done things (just try writing a book once)

but to just call and say she'd like the seat and have it handed to her based solely on her last name would be irresponsible.

John Grogan wrote Marley & Me. Great book. Doesn't qualify him to
be considered a Senator. He's also written other books and has held a
real job. But if I could vote between the him and Caroline, Grogan
would get my vote because he has an idea of what us common folk go
through on a daily basis. Can't say the same for Kennedy.

I believe this is exactly what she has done. "Hello, I'm a Kennedy
and want that NY Senate seat."

Nice comparison. It'll be interesting to see what happens should the Clinton appointment be approved.

[sheepshead]

I will take issue with those who suggest Kennedy's done NOTHING. She has done things (just try writing a book once)

but to just call and say she'd like the seat and have it handed to her based solely on her last name would be irresponsible.

John Grogan wrote Marley & Me. Great book. Doesn't qualify him to
be considered a Senator. He's also written other books and has held a
real job. But if I could vote between the him and Caroline, Grogan
would get my vote because he has an idea of what us common folk go
through on a daily basis. Can't say the same for Kennedy.

I believe this is exactly what she has done. "Hello, I'm a Kennedy
and want that NY Senate seat."

Nice comparison. It'll be interesting to see what happens should the Clinton appointment be approved.

I'm not sure what that means. Clinton's resume isn't much better, but she has won an election.
Bill controls millions that middle eastern countries have given him. I don't think the appointment of his wife as SOS (a far ore important job than VP) is in the best interest of this country.

[MJZiggy]

I'm talking about Kennedy's appointment not Clinton's appointment. I only mention it because they won't fill the Senate seat, which is what we are discussing, until Clinton is actually approved by Congress. That's not a certainty. And you might take note that the VP spot is already filled by Joe Biden. That job's not up for discussion any more.

[texaspackerbacker]

It sounds like Ziggy is trying to kill the thread--rather than have it get back to a discussion of Sarah Palin, her qualifications, and the treatment of her, compared to Caroline Kennedy and the same about her. That comparison, of course, was my reason for starting this thread in the first place.

The sick and horrific media double standard is the bottom line of this discussion, just as it is with so many discussions.

As I have said, I really don't give a shit whether pathetic Caroline gets appointed or not, as coming out of the political cesspool known as New York, the alternatives (Andrew Cuomo?) would be as bad or worse--and probably more effective at being bad for America than the inept Caroline would be.

The real point is that there is a strong chance America will have had a belly full of Barak Obama by four years from now. Sarah Palin would be a strong prospect to step in as a popular alternative--unless the leftist mainstream media can quash her chances early on.

Ziggy obviously is the primary irrational Palin-hater in here--as hypocritical as that is for a liberal woman.

[MJZiggy]

Ok, explain to me how Sarah Palin would be the LEAST bit attractive as a candidate to a woman, liberal or conservative?

And you started a thread about Kennedy. She is being considered for a Senate seat. Palin is absolutely irrelevant.

[sheepshead]

Zig, you're starting to sound like Ty

[MJZiggy]

Hey, I answered your question with what I really thought (and look where it got me) now it's your turn to answer mine. Think it through and give me a decent answer, not just an accusation of sounding like someone else.