Unbelievable-Blagojevich to name Burris to fill Obama seat

[Harlan Huckleby]

Kinda my point....the republican party abandons corrupt pols while the dems constantly talk about letting things come to a legal conclusion.

Uhh, you're just wrong. Politicians on both sides are equally self-serving. Most Republicans stuck by Nixon for almost two years after his scandal broke. They broke off only when the writing was on the wall.

Next thing you will be telling me that republicans steal as many elections as democrats.

Extreme partisians on both sides are forever claiming that elections are stolen. Air America is convinced that Ohio was stolen by Republicans in both 2000 and 2004.

[arcilite]

lol im starting to like this guy

[Harlan Huckleby]

lol im starting to like this guy

ya, he does have some moxie.

but the country is in the crapper, and there's something wrong about politicians and the public wasting too much attention on his situation.

[MJZiggy]

Dick Nixon didnt step down?

not until he was completely abandoned and had no choice.

Kinda my point....the republican party abandons corrupt pols while the dems constantly talk about letting things come to a legal conclusion. Next thing you will be telling me that republicans steal as many elections as democrats.

Isn't the whole point here that the Democrats have abandoned Blagojevich and won't approve his appointment regardless who it is--and before due process?

[Patler]

There is a little thing called due process of law.

The Dem leadership in the Senate, to their credit, has stated they won't accept and seat anybody appointed by Blagojevich. I heard on the news today, though, somebody (it may have been Mort Kondracke) say that if that happened, there is a strong chance the Supreme Court would overrule the Senate--that a duly elected governor's appointment can't be rejected just because there is a cloud of corruption hanging over the appointing governor.

If you think about it, the Senate rejecting this choice would be a pretty bad precedent. It is one step away from the Senate rejecting somebody they just plain don't like on partisan grounds.

This guy, Burris, whatever his politics, would seem to be an acceptable compromise candidate, as he is 71 years old. He probably would finish out Obama's term, and then not run again. From a partisan Republican point of view, nobody decent is gonna get appointed regardless, and at least this guy isn't some hot shot long term safe to be re-elected type.

I agree with this, mostly; but as MJZ has pointed out, the cloud of corruption overhanging the Governor is with respect to this exact act, the appointment of Obama's replacement. Makes the whole thing a lot more confusing. If he was under investigation just for the road contracting issues, or things having no connection to the appointment, I would agree that the appointment should stand. But the whole appointment process has been tainted. After all, I believe Burris was one of the early candidates asking for the appointment.

The other factor is that the Governor does not have a duty to appoint the replacement, he only has the right to do it if he so chooses. He could simply declare an election for the replacement. I'm not sure if there are still other options, or not..

[Kiwon]

Thread title: Unbelievable-Blagojevich to name Burris to fill Obama seat


Nothing much surprises anymore.

The "Unbelievable" is becoming commonplace.

[SkinBasket]

The other factor is that the Governor does not have a duty to appoint the replacement, he only has the right to do it if he so chooses. He could simply declare an election for the replacement. I'm not sure if there are still other options, or not..

I don't see how there could be any other logical conclusion to this than a special election, but if people elected such a smarmy looking fellow, they deserve all the smarm he can serve up I'm thinking.

[sheepshead]

Ahhh Illinois politics:


"Jesse Jackson said that Rush "was and is an icon in the civil-rights movement" in Chicago and had established himself, first on the City Council and then in Congress. "So this relatively new guy, moving on him, didn't sit well," said Jackson, who supported Rush.

Rush did not hesitate to mock Obama as inauthentic--and, by inference, insufficiently black. "He went to Harvard and became an educated fool," Rush told the Chicago Reader during the campaign"."

[Harlan Huckleby]

Dick Nixon didnt step down?

not until he was completely abandoned and had no choice.

Kinda my point....the republican party abandons corrupt pols while the dems constantly talk about letting things come to a legal conclusion. Next thing you will be telling me that republicans steal as many elections as democrats.

Isn't the whole point here that the Democrats have abandoned Blagojevich and won't approve his appointment regardless who it is--and before due process?

I guess I missed the forest for the trees, you're right.

this is just one of those silly arguments, trying to prove that one of the parties has bad people and the other has good people.

Some people on both sides actually believe that is always the other guys who doing the monkey business.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The other factor is that the Governor does not have a duty to appoint the replacement, he only has the right to do it if he so chooses. He could simply declare an election for the replacement. I'm not sure if there are still other options, or not..

Well ya, if Blaggy had the interests of the people as his top priority, this is what he would do. But he is using the appointment to prove an point, that he is still the governor and won't be railroaded out.

Its unfortunate that the Dems have dug in their heels and are going to fight the appointment. ITs not going to do anybody any good. Its not worth the distraction, dealing with Blaggy is a low priority.

[bobblehead]

Dick Nixon didnt step down?

not until he was completely abandoned and had no choice.

Kinda my point....the republican party abandons corrupt pols while the dems constantly talk about letting things come to a legal conclusion. Next thing you will be telling me that republicans steal as many elections as democrats.

Isn't the whole point here that the Democrats have abandoned Blagojevich and won't approve his appointment regardless who it is--and before due process?

Yes, there has been so much political pressure that he....is still the govenor of Illinois. As a matter of fact the Illinois democratic legislature hasn't even begun impeachment movements yet. When the pressure causes him to step down then I will concede this point. I would cite a similar situation, but I can't think of a republican caught with 90k in his freezer and on wiretaps. Or one who is selling a seat...and caught on wiretaps.

If you can cite an example where a republican is caught dead to rights on wiretaps and didn't step down please point it out. I love to continue my ongoing education.

[bobblehead]

Dick Nixon didnt step down?

not until he was completely abandoned and had no choice.

Kinda my point....the republican party abandons corrupt pols while the dems constantly talk about letting things come to a legal conclusion. Next thing you will be telling me that republicans steal as many elections as democrats.

Isn't the whole point here that the Democrats have abandoned Blagojevich and won't approve his appointment regardless who it is--and before due process?

I guess I missed the forest for the trees, you're right.

this is just one of those silly arguments, trying to prove that one of the parties has bad people and the other has good people.

Some people on both sides actually believe that is always the other guys who doing the monkey business.

Yes, obviously because I have been such a staunch supporter of the republicans and all they do. I have never pointed out corruption or stupidity on their part. I did not say that stevens should have immediately stepped down. I have never said bush was a failure as president. I am a one sided person who is making a silly arguement that happens to be backed up by facts.

Just like my post above, please show me where the equal standard is. I believe when Ken Starr prosecuted a certain GOP senator the dems lauded him and the senator resigned in shame. When Starr prosecuted Clinton on far worse the troops rallied and attacked Starr. Clinton served out his term despite lying under oath and generally bringing disgrace to our country.

Oh yea, and I defended Clinton at the time and said we should drop it cuz it was pointless and I wanted to get back to issues.

Yea, HH your right, I'm a one sided hack. bottom line is that their are crooks on both sides and I will NEVER say different...its how each side handles the crooks that is significantly different.

And who is the idiot who brought up Larry Craig?? The dude is a fag who tried to hire a gay hooker. Its not the same as selling a senate seat.

This is why I would vote for Elliot Spitzer if I could. He got caught doing something that isn't a big deal but he had the decency and shame to step down. Christ people piss me off!!

[Harlan Huckleby]

When Starr prosecuted Clinton on far worse

[bobblehead]

When Starr prosecuted Clinton on far worse

I'm comparing him to the Oregon? senator who grabbed a couple asses at parties, not Gov. Rod.

[texaspackerbacker]

When Starr prosecuted Clinton on far worse

I'm comparing him to the Oregon? senator who grabbed a couple asses at parties, not Gov. Rod.

Good comparison.

Packwood got railroaded out of the Senate in disgrace for one incident of the same type that Clinton had probably double digits, while Clinton was allowed to serve out his term, and his media buddies pretty much purged all recollection of his plethora of bad deeds on several different fronts--moral, financial, political, etc.