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    Viacom has decided to use the very people they're trying to pry more money out of as tools in their negotiations by threatening to cut access to these channels, then running banners all day blaming Time Warner and urging customers to call and "DEMAND" they keep these channels. Which translates to calling and DEMANDING that we be allowed to pay more money every month. Of course most people won't bother looking into why the channels are being pulled or by who and will flood Time Warner with angry calls demanding they keep their virtual baby sitters Dora and Spongebob on the air. Very clever.

    Our kids watch some of the shows on Noggin and Spongebob on Nick is like crack to the older one. I'll watch MXC on Spike when I'm drunk. Other than that, those channels wouldn't be missed much here.

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    Time Warner may cut ‘Colbert,’ ‘Spongebob’
    AP

    LOS ANGELES - “SpongeBob SquarePants” may be getting squeezed off of Time Warner Cable.

    Media giant Viacom Inc. said its Nickelodeon, MTV, Comedy Central and 16 other channels will go dark on Time Warner Cable Inc. at 12:01 a.m. Thursday if a new carriage fee deal is not agreed upon by then.

    The impasse over carriage fee hikes would mean “SpongeBob” and other shows like “The Daily Show” will be cut off to 13 million subscribers, said spokesman Alex Dudley, a vice president at Time Warner Cable. The nation’s second-largest cable operator primarily serves customers in New York state, the Carolinas, Ohio, Southern California and Texas.

    Viacom has asked for fee increases of between 22 percent and 36 percent per channel, an amount that could increase customers’ cable bills, Dudley said. Viacom spokeswoman Kelly McAndrew said the requested increase was in the very low double-digit percentage range.

    “The issue is that they have asked for an exorbitant increase in their carriage fees and their network ratings are sagging,” he said. “Basically we’re trying to hold the line for our customer.”

    Viacom said the increases would cost an extra 23 cents a month per subscriber — which works out to $35.9 million more in total. It said that Americans spend a fifth of their TV time watching Viacom shows but its fees make up less than 2.5 percent of the Time Warner cable bill.

    “We make this request because Time Warner Cable has so greatly undervalued our channels for so long,” it said.

    “Ultimately, however, if Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, MTV and the rest of our programming is discontinued — over less than a penny per day — we believe viewers will see this behavior by their cable company as outrageous,” it said.

    Tense negotiations are continuing at the highest level, Dudley said.

    Viacom accused Time Warner Cable of not negotiating.

    “It is our sincere hope that they will come to the table and negotiate a deal,” said McAndrew. The network operator also intends to tell viewers about the dispute in TV ads in 11 major markets.

    Part of the disagreement is that most of the popular shows are rerun on Web sites where Viacom collects advertising revenue that it does not share with Time Warner, Dudley said.

    “We don’t think that’s fair,” he said. “They’re trying to have their cake and eat it too online, where anybody can get it for free.”

    Viacom has staked much of its revenue-growth prospects on its ability to extract higher carriage rates out of its cable and satellite affiliates despite an ad slowdown and weak ratings.

    In the third quarter, media network revenue, which accounts for about two-thirds of the total, grew 6 percent to $2.1 billion, despite global ad revenue falling 2 percent, largely because of double-digit percentage growth in affiliate fees and the success of its “Rock Band” video game.

    Viacom shares rose 69 cents, or 3.7 percent, to close at $19.26 on Tuesday, while Time Warner Cable shares added $1.56, or 7.7 percent, to $21.76.

    The channels that would be affected are: Comedy Central, CMT: Pure Country, Logo, Palladia, MTV, MTV 2, MTV Hits, MTV Jams, MTV Tr3s, Nickelodeon, Noggin, Nick 2, Nicktoons, Spike, The N, TV Land, VH1, VH1 Classic, and VH1 Soul.

    "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

  • #2
    Whelp, getting rid of all the MTV trash IS a good step in the right direction
    The Bottom Line:
    Formally Numb, same person, same views of M3

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    • #3
      Thanks god I don't have Time Warner

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      • #4
        I don't have TWC, either. But jeez, why can't things like this ever happen with the shopping channels?

        Update, they came to a resolution, so attention TWC subscribers, expect to see another bill increase next month.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GBRulz
          I don't have TWC, either. But jeez, why can't things like this ever happen with the shopping channels?

          Update, they came to a resolution, so attention TWC subscribers, expect to see another bill increase next month.
          The increase will amount to around 30 cents a month per customer. I doubt too many people will even notice if nobody tells them.
          Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gunakor
            Originally posted by GBRulz
            I don't have TWC, either. But jeez, why can't things like this ever happen with the shopping channels?

            Update, they came to a resolution, so attention TWC subscribers, expect to see another bill increase next month.
            The increase will amount to around 30 cents a month per customer. I doubt too many people will even notice if nobody tells them.
            Not only that, but TW is the one fighting to keep the costs down in these disputes, so you can't really fault them in these cases. It was Viacom demanding more money and it was Viacom threatening to yank the channels as a means of hostage style negotiation. I don't care that I have to pay another quarter every month, but I do care that companies feel the need to act like 6 year olds instead of being up front and making their case to the customers.
            "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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            • #7
              I wonder if ATT is any good. Their prices are certainly an improvement over Charter. More channels. A friend is getting ATT "iverse" or whatever they call it, TV & internet. We shall see.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                I wonder if ATT is any good. Their prices are certainly an improvement over Charter. More channels. A friend is getting ATT "iverse" or whatever they call it, TV & internet. We shall see.
                U-Verse. Have it. Love it.

                There is a large adult PPV selection, too, Harlan. You might enjoy that...as well as Bretsky and whatever other pervs we have on this site

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                • #9
                  what I find odd about Charter is you flip through the channels, and adult titles come up like "barely legal, really horny" and "happy anal anniversary."

                  My mom & dad were visiting recently, flipping through the channels, they were very amused.

                  I would think they would wrap those channels in some plain brown paper.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by GBRulz
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    I wonder if ATT is any good. Their prices are certainly an improvement over Charter. More channels. A friend is getting ATT "iverse" or whatever they call it, TV & internet. We shall see.
                    U-Verse. Have it. Love it.

                    There is a large adult PPV selection, too, Harlan. You might enjoy that...as well as Bretsky and whatever other pervs we have on this site

                    Time for you to fess up; PPV is all you watch
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