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  • #46
    What are you talking about, Harlan?

    The Republicans CLEARLY won Florida. The recount was limited to three Dem-dominated counties and yielded the Dems a bunch of really shaky/probably bogus additions. Numerous military absentee votes apparently went uncounted that would have been strongly for Bush; All the rest of the counties--where recounts would undoubtedly would have helped Bush--were NOT recounted. And with all of that, Bush STILL had more votes than Gore.

    The stealing of the election would have been if the Supreme Court had ruled for Gore.

    The Dems, as was said, pulled off a steal of the Washington governor's race--"keep recounting until it comes out the way you want, and then quit", and they seem on the verge of doing the same in Minnesota. Hopefully, the Supreme Court will derail this blatantly dishonest Dem effort.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
      The Republicans CLEARLY won Florida.
      According to the election rules, yes, the Republicans won FL, and would have won it without the Supreme Court intervention. I know this from a thorough study done by New York Times/Miami Herald after the election. I accept their conclusion.

      I'm still eternally pissed that the SC acted in such a partisian manner.

      And the rules, such as they were, horribly disenfranchised Dem voters. In a fair election, with modern voting technology across the state, Gore would have easily won Florida.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        I'm still eternally pissed that the SC acted in such a partisian manner.
        Well you should be upset at the left leaning members for siding with the Florida SC's raping of the Constitution in the name of winning an election for the Democrat. Good for you Harlan.

        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
        And the rules, such as they were, horribly disenfranchised Dem voters. In a fair election, with modern voting technology across the state, Gore would have easily won Florida.
        Ahhh. The poor dumb voter angle. When in doubt...
        "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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        • #49
          Originally posted by SkinBasket
          Florida SC's raping of the Constitution .
          The Supreme Court rebuked the Florida Supreme Court in a very narrow sense. I agree the U.S. Supreme Court had a defensible position, seen in isolation. But the big picture screams a political intervention.

          That Supreme Court was famously allergic to appling the Equal Protection Clause in other cases. (Conservatives are not so big on all that equality business.) But they jumped-in to correct the lack of statewide uniformity of the recount process. This inequality paled in comparison to the election itself. Ballots from poor districts were rejected by a factor of 10-to-1 compared to rich districts. The richer areas had electronic voting. The Supreme Court jumped in with Equal Protection only where it benefited the Republicans.

          You frequently repeat the myth that the Florida Supreme Court was found wildly out of line. Nothing could be further from the truth. But it seems to make you feel good, and I'm in favor of that, so keep it up.

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          • #50
            We're not having this discussion again. I like the Constitution and uniformity in regulation and enforcement of rules and laws. You like getting the desired result in an election after the fact via whatever means necessary. Potayto. Potahto.
            "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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            • #51
              that's me, alright.

              The good Dems of MN are doing the Lord's work.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                that's me, alright.
                Well, you know. You can put lipstick on a pig... [giggles, laughter, applause]... but it's still a pig.

                Although that's not really fair. You were absolutely viscously heartbroken when Hillary was rejected by your fellow lefty Americans.
                "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                • #53
                  I actually was not heartbroken about Hillary. Well, no, that's not true, I was heartbroken. But it wasn't losing a political war that drove me to dementia, I am used to my preferred candidate losing. I was just as upset about the left's treatment of McCain and Palin as I was disgusted by the Hillary bashing. It was the dominance of Howard Dean types in the Dem party that left me homeless and muttering to myself.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    I don't know the details. I don't trust the facts as presented by editorial writers or posters.
                    Hard to argue with that.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                      The Republicans CLEARLY won Florida.
                      According to the election rules, yes, the Republicans won FL, and would have won it without the Supreme Court intervention. I know this from a thorough study done by New York Times/Miami Herald after the election. I accept their conclusion.

                      I'm still eternally pissed that the SC acted in such a partisian manner.

                      And the rules, such as they were, horribly disenfranchised Dem voters. In a fair election, with modern voting technology across the state, Gore would have easily won Florida.
                      The Supreme Court didn't so much intervene as it did settle the issue--and prevent the Dems from stealing Florida, and hence, the election--DESPITE what you and the NY Times/Miami Herald acknowledge was a legitimate Bush victory. Take away the Supreme Court "intevention" and you have the Washington governor race and possibly the Franken theft of the Minnesota Senate seat.

                      And what in the hell are you talking about with this unfairness and disenfranchisement crap? The only disenfranchisement I have even heard suggested was the denying of military absentee ballots which were mailed on time but didn't arrive until after the election.
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