liberal myths, a list.

[sheepshead]

Here's my list. There are more but these are my favorites. I might be wrong on a couple but I have yet to see any evidence. I have looked, so please if you want to dispute any of these please provide some back up.


1) The 2000 presidential election was stolen.
2) The Bush administration lied about WMD’s in Iraq.
3) Democrat voters were unable to vote in 2000 and/or 2004 due to intimidation.
4) The United States tortures people.
5) Humans have altered the earths weather.
6) The constitution of the United States guarantees the separation of church and state.
7) “Mission Accomplished” sign meant the war was over.
8) Presidents of the United States are in charge of cleaning up after hurricanes.




"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so."

Ronald Reagan

[sheepshead]

Then we have this :

http://www.electionjournal.org/2009/01/12/accused-black-panther-tied-to-philly-democratic-party/

[sheepshead]

Oh I guess that Bush guy had it right all along:


A federal intelligence court, in a rare public opinion, is expected to issue a major ruling validating the power of the president and Congress to wiretap international phone calls and intercept e-mail messages without a court order, even when Americans' private communications may be involved.

The court decision is expected to be disclosed as early as Thursday in an unclassified, redacted form. It was made in December by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review, which has issued only two prior rulings in its 30-year history.

The decision marks the first time since the disclosure of the National Security Agency's warrantless eavesdropping program three years ago that an appellate court has addressed the constitutionality of the federal government's wiretapping powers. In validating the government's wide authority to collect foreign intelligence, it may offer legal credence to the Bush administration's repeated assertions that the president has constitutional authority to act without specific court approval in ordering national security eavesdropping.

[gex]

WTF? You responding to your own posts now?

Look around Sheep, the circle-jerk is over, now your just masturbating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Fd59Z8FEY

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: liberal myths, a list.

1) The 2000 presidential election was stolen.

It was stolen, the SC acted in a very political and biased manner.
Of course they didn't need to steal it, the Republicans would have won anyway, but the outrage is still justified.

2) The Bush administration lied about WMD’s in Iraq.

I agree. Most of Hussein's own senior government officials sincerely thought their were active WMD programs, so of course all the intelligence services around the world thought so too.

3) Democrat voters were unable to vote in 2000 and/or 2004 due to intimidation.

Ya, you can hear the conspiracy theorists on Air America who won't let go of Ohio 2000, 2004. And they have plenty of stats to back up their arguments. The trouble is they don't present the info that contradicts their story.
Very much like the right-wing loons we hear in this forum who claim that Dems steal elections. They know because of what they heard on right wing radio.

4) The United States tortures people.

I don't know what goes on, either do you.

5) Humans have altered the earths weather.

Ridiculous. The levels of pollution in China often affect pollution indexes in U.S. cities. How could putting that much material into the atmosphere NOT affect the weather?

6) The constitution of the United States guarantees the separation of church and state.

The consitution says what the supreme court interprets it to say. This is not a myth.

7) “Mission Accomplished” sign meant the war was over.

The "mission" that was accomplished was said to be the end of large scale fighting. OK, that seemed to be the case, but even this narrowed definition soon was proven wrong. What possible "mission accomplished" do you think they were celebrating? The successful landing of Bush's helicopter on the deck?

8) Presidents of the United States are in charge of cleaning up after hurricanes

PResidents are accountable for the performance of FEMA. If they have incompetent management in this or any federal agency, that CERTAINLY reflects on the administration.

You have picked many strange battles to wage here, Kimosabi.

[sheepshead]

WTF? You responding to your own posts now?

Look around Sheep, the circle-jerk is over, now your just masturbating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Fd59Z8FEY

I didn't think of those posts as responses, there's just great stuff coming across the wires, I was compelled to add to my points. But I want to thank you for your titillating insightful comments. I live for intelligent dialogue like this.

[sheepshead]

sheepshead wrote:
1) The 2000 presidential election was stolen.


It was stolen, the SC acted in a very political and biased manner.
Of course they didn't need to steal it, the Republicans would have won anyway, but the outrage is still justified.

How can he steal something he won? Its been counted and recounted-he won.

sheepshead wrote:
2) The Bush administration lied about WMD’s in Iraq.


I agree. Most of Hussein's own senior government officials sincerely thought their were active WMD programs, so of course all the intelligence services around the world thought so too.

You agree with whom?


sheepshead wrote:
3) Democrat voters were unable to vote in 2000 and/or 2004 due to intimidation.


Ya, you can hear the conspiracy theorists on Air America who won't let go of Ohio 2000, 2004. And they have plenty of stats to back up their arguments. The trouble is they don't present the info that contradicts their story.
Very much like the right-wing loons we hear in this forum who claim that Dems steal elections. They know because of what they heard on right wing radio.

sheepshead wrote:
4) The United States tortures people.


I don't know what goes on, either do you.

Agreed no evidence. So, it's speculation and I'm not making the accusation.

sheepshead wrote:
5) Humans have altered the earths weather.


Ridiculous. The levels of pollution in China often affect pollution indexes in U.S. cities. How could putting that much material into the atmosphere NOT affect the weather?

I think we should continue to clean up our activities at a rapid pace. Unless its scientifically proven, it aint happening.

sheepshead wrote:
6) The constitution of the United States guarantees the separation of church and state.


The consitution says what the supreme court interprets it to say. This is not a myth.

The constitution is not a living breathing document. It guarantees freedom of religion. period.

sheepshead wrote:
7) “Mission Accomplished” sign meant the war was over.


The "mission" that was accomplished was said to be the end of large scale fighting. OK, that seemed to be the case, but even this narrowed definition soon was proven wrong. What possible "mission accomplished" do you think they were celebrating? The successful landing of Bush's helicopter on the deck?

It was on a ship. I watched that landing live and never thought for a minute it had anything to do with anything other than that ships mission.
sheepshead wrote:
8) Presidents of the United States are in charge of cleaning up after hurricanes


PResidents are accountable for the performance of FEMA. If they have incompetent management in this or any federal agency, that CERTAINLY reflects on the administration.

The only reactive entity in the US government is the military. FEMA is not a reactive entity and I'm not sure I would want the US government as a first responder. The people of Louisiana figured that out and voted those knuckleheads out of office.

[sheepshead]

Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.

Seven percent (7%) attribute global warming to some other reason, and nine percent (9%) are unsure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

[MJZiggy]

Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.

Seven percent (7%) attribute global warming to some other reason, and nine percent (9%) are unsure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

Who gives a shit why U.S. voters think global warming is occurring? U.S. voters are not scientists.

[mraynrand]

Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.

Seven percent (7%) attribute global warming to some other reason, and nine percent (9%) are unsure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

Who gives a shit why U.S. voters think global warming is occurring? U.S. voters are not scientists.

Some are.

[BallHawk]

Unless its scientifically proven, it aint happening.

Ok, by that logic God doesn't exist.

[packinpatland]

Unless its scientifically proven, it aint happening.

Ok, by that logic God doesn't exist.

Thank the Lord that's settled.

[MJZiggy]

Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.

Seven percent (7%) attribute global warming to some other reason, and nine percent (9%) are unsure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

Who gives a shit why U.S. voters think global warming is occurring? U.S. voters are not scientists.

Some are.

Not enough to make a random sample accurate. Remember, these are the people you accuse of being sheep and who simply believe what they want to believe. If global warming means inconvenience to them, they'll look for the reason to discredit it.

[HowardRoark]

Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.

Seven percent (7%) attribute global warming to some other reason, and nine percent (9%) are unsure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

Who gives a shit why U.S. voters think global warming is occurring? U.S. voters are not scientists.

It means that the religion of Global Warming will no longer have as many worshippers; therefore, the church is less apt to confiscate dollars from the US Treasury.

[mraynrand]

Forty-four percent (44%) of U.S. voters now say long-term planetary trends are the cause of global warming, compared to 41% who blame it on human activity.

Seven percent (7%) attribute global warming to some other reason, and nine percent (9%) are unsure in a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

Who gives a shit why U.S. voters think global warming is occurring? U.S. voters are not scientists.

Some are.

Not enough to make a random sample accurate. Remember, these are the people you accuse of being sheep and who simply believe what they want to believe. .

Which people. Those who voted in the affirmative or those who voted in the negative?

If global warming means inconvenience to them, they'll look for the reason to discredit it.

I think that's what you want to believe.