The Significance of Today

[texaspackerbacker]

Creepy and gratuitous acts of torture, huh? I would call that a normal American gut reaction about how to treat that scum, and I think about 80% in this country, including many who vote Democrat, would agree.

I appreciate your overall agreement, though, swede.

There is a front page editorial today in the Washington Post saying that Obama signing off on the Guantanamo thing, the closing of the other CIA prisons, and the ending of harsh interrogation effectively ends the War on Terror--presumably by surrendering. Incredibly, the America-hating leftist mainstream media seems happy about that concept.

In fairness to Obama, however, there have been rumblings from the left that maybe he is talking the talk but still planning on doing enough of the right stuff to get the anti-terrorist job done. I'd be a helluva lot more confident about that if Obama didn't have the rotten history of anti-American words and votes that he has.

[SkinBasket]

I saw that suck cock Murtha said he didn't have a problem housing them in max security prisons, then offered to take them into his district - which conveniently only has a minimum security prison - which seems to exemplify the euro-Democrat position on this. Decry the conditions that these poor poor people are kept in (which are better than the conditions they were living in before), bemoan their lack of freedoms (freedoms they don't even believe in themselves), then offer a solution that cannot possibly be arrived at - if any solution is offered at all.

Any president's first actions in office are meant to set the tone for the administration. This was an idiotic, weak, and confused tone to set.

[sheepshead]

So far, I dont think he has a damn clue except to appease the left wing nuts jobs that seeded his campaign. So, are we safer today then we were last week?

[mraynrand]

Obama should have publically acknowledged that he would consider requests from any country to declare responsibility for any detainee and negotiate terms for extradition--it would give the Obama administration a great opportunity to share information with the sponsoring countries and point out how offended we'd be if little Achmed showed up in a Kansas City strip mall in six months wearing a dirty bomb suit.

We've already done this with Saudi Arabia. Worked out well.


Tex, although I agree with you, your unilateral view on what the terrorists DESERVE seems elitist to me.

[texaspackerbacker]

Obama should have publically acknowledged that he would consider requests from any country to declare responsibility for any detainee and negotiate terms for extradition--it would give the Obama administration a great opportunity to share information with the sponsoring countries and point out how offended we'd be if little Achmed showed up in a Kansas City strip mall in six months wearing a dirty bomb suit.

We've already done this with Saudi Arabia. Worked out well.


Tex, although I agree with you, your unilateral view on what the terrorists DESERVE seems elitist to me.

Do you use the word "unilateral" to imply that only I have that view? Go to any bar, barber shop, factory, a lot of schools and even churches, and I think you will find out differently. And "elitist"? If you said "extremist", I could understand--I violated the signature on my posts, but how is taking the unsophisticated gut reactionary view of "killing 'em all and letting God sort it out" elitist? I'd say opposing that is more an elitist view.

I know it ain't gonna happen; I'm just venting--but it still would be appropriate and just.

[mraynrand]

Obama should have publically acknowledged that he would consider requests from any country to declare responsibility for any detainee and negotiate terms for extradition--it would give the Obama administration a great opportunity to share information with the sponsoring countries and point out how offended we'd be if little Achmed showed up in a Kansas City strip mall in six months wearing a dirty bomb suit.

We've already done this with Saudi Arabia. Worked out well.


Tex, although I agree with you, your unilateral view on what the terrorists DESERVE seems elitist to me.

Do you use the word "unilateral" to imply that only I have that view? Go to any bar, barber shop, factory, a lot of schools and even churches, and I think you will find out differently. And "elitist"? If you said "extremist", I could understand--I violated the signature on my posts, but how is taking the unsophisticated gut reactionary view of "killing 'em all and letting God sort it out" elitist? I'd say opposing that is more an elitist view.

I know it ain't gonna happen; I'm just venting--but it still would be appropriate and just.

I just meant deciding what other people DESERVE is elitist - at least that's what you've been telling us with regard to housing.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I like to set out a little red meat for the boys now and then.

[mraynrand]

Thanks

[bobblehead]

I saw that suck cock Murtha said he didn't have a problem housing them in max security prisons, then offered to take them into his district - which conveniently only has a minimum security prison - which seems to exemplify the euro-Democrat position on this. Decry the conditions that these poor poor people are kept in (which are better than the conditions they were living in before), bemoan their lack of freedoms (freedoms they don't even believe in themselves), then offer a solution that cannot possibly be arrived at - if any solution is offered at all.

Any president's first actions in office are meant to set the tone for the administration. This was an idiotic, weak, and confused tone to set.

Even worse. We decried the gitmo prison and our solution is to move them to a maximum security prison on US soil. Gee, I bet the captives will really distinguish the difference.

[texaspackerbacker]

I saw that suck cock Murtha said he didn't have a problem housing them in max security prisons, then offered to take them into his district - which conveniently only has a minimum security prison - which seems to exemplify the euro-Democrat position on this. Decry the conditions that these poor poor people are kept in (which are better than the conditions they were living in before), bemoan their lack of freedoms (freedoms they don't even believe in themselves), then offer a solution that cannot possibly be arrived at - if any solution is offered at all.

Any president's first actions in office are meant to set the tone for the administration. This was an idiotic, weak, and confused tone to set.

Even worse. We decried the gitmo prison and our solution is to move them to a maximum security prison on US soil. Gee, I bet the captives will really distinguish the difference.

Ya know, you just stumbled onto a silver lining in this horrible Obama-driven cloud. Close your eyes and imagine these Guantanamo grads mingling and interacting with a prison full of Bloods and Crypts and Latin Kings and last but certainly not least, the Aryan Nation.

To use a little jargon appropriate to a football forum, the terrorists may go in tight ends, but they'll soon be wide receivers.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ya know, you just stumbled onto a silver lining in this horrible Obama-driven cloud. Close your eyes and imagine these Guantanamo grads mingling and interacting with a prison full of Bloods and Crypts and Latin Kings and last but certainly not least, the Aryan Nation.

Probably the prisoners will have to go to special prisons on military bases.

I don't think the country needs another negative PR debacle with POWs getting abused in U.S. prisons.

The whole situation is screwed-up. The main thing now is to put it in the rear view mirror.

[texaspackerbacker]

Ya know, you just stumbled onto a silver lining in this horrible Obama-driven cloud. Close your eyes and imagine these Guantanamo grads mingling and interacting with a prison full of Bloods and Crypts and Latin Kings and last but certainly not least, the Aryan Nation.

Probably the prisoners will have to go to special prisons on military bases.

I don't think the country needs another negative PR debacle with POWs getting abused in U.S. prisons.

The whole situation is screwed-up. The main thing now is to put it in the rear view mirror.

Why the obsession with the country's PR?

Who gives a shit what a bunch of ignorant and cowardly damn foreigners think anyway?

I'd trust inmates in our prisons far more than liberal judges to give these terrorists what they deserve. And if I was a governor or president with the power to do so, I'd pardon any prisoners providing a painful enough death to terrorists. I suppose this will be another Tim Russert moment--where even some of our conservatives develop limp wrists and pretend this is somehow NOT the prevailing attitude among good normal Americans--like when I advocated "gratuitous torture" of the stinking terrorist scum.

[sheepshead]

Ya know, you just stumbled onto a silver lining in this horrible Obama-driven cloud. Close your eyes and imagine these Guantanamo grads mingling and interacting with a prison full of Bloods and Crypts and Latin Kings and last but certainly not least, the Aryan Nation.

Probably the prisoners will have to go to special prisons on military bases.

I don't think the country needs another negative PR debacle with POWs getting abused in U.S. prisons.

The whole situation is screwed-up. The main thing now is to put it in the rear view mirror.

Why the obsession with the country's PR?

Who gives a shit what a bunch of ignorant and cowardly damn foreigners think anyway?

I'd trust inmates in our prisons far more than liberal judges to give these terrorists what they deserve. And if I was a governor or president with the power to do so, I'd pardon any prisoners providing a painful enough death to terrorists. I suppose this will be another Tim Russert moment--where even some of our conservatives develop limp wrists and pretend this is somehow NOT the prevailing attitude among good normal Americans--like when I advocated "gratuitous torture" of the stinking terrorist scum.

This is an offshoot of BDS. Most European countries hate us no matter what. I'm convinced it's jealousy. Any negative foreign press and the moonbats went ape shit. "see, see everyone hates this guy"

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'd trust inmates in our prisons far more than liberal judges to give these terrorists what they deserve.

[bobblehead]

Ya know, you just stumbled onto a silver lining in this horrible Obama-driven cloud. Close your eyes and imagine these Guantanamo grads mingling and interacting with a prison full of Bloods and Crypts and Latin Kings and last but certainly not least, the Aryan Nation.

Probably the prisoners will have to go to special prisons on military bases.

I don't think the country needs another negative PR debacle with POWs getting abused in U.S. prisons.

The whole situation is screwed-up. The main thing now is to put it in the rear view mirror.

Why the obsession with the country's PR?

Who gives a shit what a bunch of ignorant and cowardly damn foreigners think anyway?

I'd trust inmates in our prisons far more than liberal judges to give these terrorists what they deserve. And if I was a governor or president with the power to do so, I'd pardon any prisoners providing a painful enough death to terrorists. I suppose this will be another Tim Russert moment--where even some of our conservatives develop limp wrists and pretend this is somehow NOT the prevailing attitude among good normal Americans--like when I advocated "gratuitous torture" of the stinking terrorist scum.

This is an offshoot of BDS. Most European countries hate us no matter what. I'm convinced it's jealousy. Any negative foreign press and the moonbats went ape shit. "see, see everyone hates this guy"

the euro has sunk to 1.297....oh that wonderful utopia :P