Ranking the Presidents

[texaspackerbacker]

None other than reagan were worth a shit, and even he had faults.

Everyone pretty much knows I think Gingrich was the greatest leader of my lifetime and he was only speaker of the house.

Do you still support Gingrich in light of his McCain-esque cozying up to the leftist media and the left in general?

[Harlan Huckleby]

how come so few of you pussies are willing to rank the presidents? What's with "Reagan was the only good one" crap? If you don't recongnize some of the names, you can always look them up on Wikipedia.

Nixon was the one with the 5 o'clock shadow, Kennedy was the guy who boinked Marilyn Monroe, Truman held-up the newspaper that said he lost the election. Hope that helps.

[bobblehead]

how come so few of you pussies are willing to rank the presidents? What's with "Reagan was the only good one" crap? If you don't recongnize some of the names, you can always look them up on Wikipedia.

Nixon was the one with the 5 o'clock shadow, Kennedy was the guy who boinked Marilyn Monroe, Truman held-up the newspaper that said he lost the election. Hope that helps.

I'm really only old enough to rank Carter forward. I think Carter was abysmal, both bushes were abysmal, clinton was merely bad. Am I missing anyone??

Hoosier probably makes a couple valid points, but he misses the biggest one...capitalism has created more wealth and innovation in 40 years than all of mankind did prior to that. I agree that at times capitalism is cruel and will put people out of work through tecnology and innovation. Life is rough, what do you want to do...stay in the dark ages so Joe can keep his job pounding nails with a hammer instead of a nail gun?

Finance changed dramatically right after I finished school...it sucked, I adjusted and moved on. Guess what, with current conditions it might be headed back to where it was before, or something better than both.

[texaspackerbacker]

What? No one with memories of FDR?

I think his omission was politically motivated. If you include FDR and Hoover in this poll, then you have the #1 and dead-assed last in back-to-back presidencies.

First of all, when Shadow started the thread, he said presidents "in your lifetime" (paraphrased). To be a contemporary of FDR, you'd have to be ...... just two years older than me, but to have been old enough at the time of his New Deal legislation to know what was going on, you'd have to be well over eighty, and probably not spending much time on the internet.

More importantly, you, Hoosier, are dead-assed wrong--not to mention politically motivated. Hoover was a victim of the dust bowl and stock market margin rules that pre-dated his presidency. FDR's policies did NOT cure the Great Depression. Arguably, they made it last longer (I will, however, give him credit for relieving some people's suffering). It was World War II that finally got us out of the Depression.

Why did FDR's New Deal spending frenzy NOT trigger Keynesian success? Well, for one thing, it was accompanied by a lot of onerous regulations that stifled business and tended to counteract the stimulus--hopefully, Obama doesn't go down that road. For another thing, FDR in fact, DID raise taxes--also counteracting the stimulus of the spending. Most importantly, though, was the non-political aspect--the drought and wind following farming methods that depleted soil in key crop-raising parts of the country.

Basically, if you go back to the Hoover Administration, Hoover was far from the worst president, and FDR was far from the best.

[hoosier]

Hoover was a victim of the dust bowl and stock market margin rules that pre-dated his presidency.

Basically, if you go back to the Hoover Administration, Hoover was far from the worst president, and FDR was far from the best.

Bring back the Hoovervilles.
You can say what you want about how the great depression wasn't Hoover's doing, and you're probably right that, all in all, Hoover wasn't such a bad guy. But history has already spoken: what other US president has had the shanty town renamed in his honor?

[HowardRoark]

Hoover was a victim of the dust bowl and stock market margin rules that pre-dated his presidency.

Basically, if you go back to the Hoover Administration, Hoover was far from the worst president, and FDR was far from the best.

Bring back the Hoovervilles.
You can say what you want about how the great depression wasn't Hoover's doing, and you're probably right that, all in all, Hoover wasn't such a bad guy. But history has already spoken: what other US president has had the shanty town renamed in his honor?

What about "Executive Order 9066 Towns" during FDR's reign?

[swede]

You can say what you want about how the great depression wasn't Hoover's doing, and you're probably right that, all in all, Hoover wasn't such a bad guy. But history has already spoken: what other US president has had the shanty town renamed in his honor?

Whoopie Goldberg's crotch was named in honor of Bush II.

[mraynrand]

What? No one with memories of FDR?

I think his omission was politically motivated. If you include FDR and Hoover in this poll, then you have the #1 and dead-assed last in back-to-back presidencies.

First of all, when Shadow started the thread, he said presidents "in your lifetime" (paraphrased). To be a contemporary of FDR, you'd have to be ...... just two years older than me, but to have been old enough at the time of his New Deal legislation to know what was going on, you'd have to be well over eighty, and probably not spending much time on the internet.

More importantly, you, Hoosier, are dead-assed wrong--not to mention politically motivated. Hoover was a victim of the dust bowl and stock market margin rules that pre-dated his presidency. FDR's policies did NOT cure the Great Depression. Arguably, they made it last longer (I will, however, give him credit for relieving some people's suffering). It was World War II that finally got us out of the Depression.

Why did FDR's New Deal spending frenzy NOT trigger Keynesian success? Well, for one thing, it was accompanied by a lot of onerous regulations that stifled business and tended to counteract the stimulus--hopefully, Obama doesn't go down that road. For another thing, FDR in fact, DID raise taxes--also counteracting the stimulus of the spending. Most importantly, though, was the non-political aspect--the drought and wind following farming methods that depleted soil in key crop-raising parts of the country.

Basically, if you go back to the Hoover Administration, Hoover was far from the worst president, and FDR was far from the best.

I think Smoot-Hawley was passed under Hoover. That was bad. But other things weren't so bad as the crap FDR pulled. Still, I bet Coolidge wished he had supported Mellon over Hoover.

[The Shadow]

It would be really cool if we had a Hoover-era poster.

[swede]

I thin I know where Obama will go on the list after his 4-8 years in the White House

Obama's first week:


On January 20, President Obama called for the repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act. He also declared his intention to give multiple rights and privileges to homosexual couples.

On January 22, he issued an order announcing his intention to close the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay within one year, but admits he has not figured out how to do that. President Bush had expressed a similar wish, but could find no nations willing to take responsibility for the detainees.

On January 23, President Obama issued an order that authorizes tax dollars for abortions abroad.

Hope has arrived, America.

And now, just to keep you up to date on President for Life Obama's first 100 days:

...a little stimulation for ACORN...but, hey...busing homeless men to the polls aint cheap.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/27/republican-leaders-raise-concerns-acorn-stimulus-dollars/

...and introducing your new Secretary of the Treasury, a guy so dirty even Russ Feingold wouldn't vote for him.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NTg0NGQyZGVhNzg4NjQwYWI4ZmIzZTY1ODFjYjg0MmY=

[mraynrand]

It would be really cool if we had a Hoover-era poster.

He (more likely she) would probably have posts like Grandpa Simpson - you know, those stories that ramble aimlessly, have no point, make obscure references to events no one recalls, and are as irritating as hell....hey, just a minute - that describes most of Packerrats - We're ALL Hover era posters!

[HowardRoark]

It would be really cool if we had a Hoover-era poster.

[mraynrand]

I was worried someone was going to start showing 1920's Porn - but I'll beat you to it. Here is a porno shot of Mary Pickford. note the scandalous uncovered ankles!

[BallHawk]

Everybody here is inferior to Andrew Jackson, anyway.