New Owner Introduction

[Scott Campbell]

What I'm more interested in doing is providing additional features to what we currently have here. Finding a revenue source would help with that. But that will take time. If you have ideas, I'd invite you to PM me.

My idea:

PackerRats commemorative purple #4 urinal pucks.

I think we have a winner...

Truthfully I wasn't expecting it to be such a hit with the ladies.

[mission]

What I'm more interested in doing is providing additional features to what we currently have here. Finding a revenue source would help with that. But that will take time. If you have ideas, I'd invite you to PM me.

My idea:

PackerRats commemorative purple #4 urinal pucks.

I think we have a winner...

Truthfully I wasn't expecting it to be such a hit with the ladies.

[Administrator]

What I'm more interested in doing is providing additional features to what we currently have here. Finding a revenue source would help with that. But that will take time. If you have ideas, I'd invite you to PM me.

My idea:

PackerRats commemorative purple #4 urinal pucks.

I'll sign you up for the first 10 cases. Thanks!

[Administrator]

Welcome, Administrator.

Thanks. So, how close to Lambeau are you?

[Administrator]

I figured this would come up. Nope, I'm not him, I'm just "your average Joe".

So, joemailman is the new owner? It doesn't get more average than that. I'm all for joemailman (despite his political leanings) being the new owner.

Guess I better post something so no one gets the idea I'm also Joeadministrator.

Welcome Admin. You can never have enough Average Joe's.

Hi Joe! Are you really a mailman?

[falco]

Hi Joe! Are you really a mailman?

yes...this forum is a small world...

• joe once delivered my mail
  esoxx and i got gas at the same gas station for 2.5 years
  I once gave fosco's dad a jump when his car died in the middle of nowhere in the woods of northern wisconsin in freezing cold weather.

[Administrator]

All this is completely at your discretion but before you lower the boom, may I suggest updating the forum rules so we know specifically what you want to avoid (and where you want to avoid it). I can easily ignore the back and forth sniping between a couple of people, especially when it is limited, and especially if it is FYI and RR forums. If you eliminate any back and forth sniping, you'll effectively reduce the population here about 80%. Do you have a specific cutoff in mind - such as no personal comments or no personal comments outside certain threads? No 'excessive' sniping? It's a tough line to walk. Anyone can see that the back and forth here is poisonous, but there are other levels of back and forth that tend to come close. I've engaged in some of that myself on FYI/RR, so I guess you could start by banning Mrayn....# !UrrK#$%#%%#! HELP....Help....help...

Look, back and forth "sniping" is one thing, but how much of that is OK? Reduce the population by 80%? Well, that assumes no one leaves because of stuff like that. Impossible to know that. If 80% leave because of "no sniping", then we aren't talking about the packers are we? If I were to ban "sniping" and "personal attacks" and you leave, but, two others who just lurk or left because they got attacked or don't like sniping start participating, then what is the difference? I'd like EVERYONE to feel welcome. Pollyannish? You bet. But why not?

I can write rules. But my experience in writing them is that then we set the least acceptable "baseline". Next, a bunch of creative people with nothing else to do, figure out how close they can get to the "stated rule" without breaking it. Not the intent of the rule, that's for sure. Then we get into a judgment area of "how close is too close". Not really different from where we are now, is it?

People know what they have to do to "get along" in forums. I'd like to try that first. Might not work, but we'll see. Got a nice PM from someone today. Gives me cause to hope.

Some people just don't like each other. Rules aren't going to fix that.

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Hi Joe! Are you really a mailman?

yes...this forum is a small world...

• joe once delivered my mail
  esoxx and i got gas at the same gas station for 2.5 years
  I once gave fosco's dad a jump when his car died in the middle of nowhere in the woods of northern wisconsin in freezing cold weather.

Thats pretty cool

[falco]

Thats pretty cool

falco's pretty cool

[digitaldean]

There are the usual friendly barbs that get exchanged. Even a little heated argument. But if most of us can use some common sense and think before we post this place can still be fun but remain civil.

[Administrator]

Hi Joe! Are you really a mailman?

yes...this forum is a small world...

• joe once delivered my mail
  esoxx and i got gas at the same gas station for 2.5 years
  I once gave fosco's dad a jump when his car died in the middle of nowhere in the woods of northern wisconsin in freezing cold weather.

Thats pretty cool

Yes, I agree. That is cool. Small world sometimes.

[Mazzin]

All this is completely at your discretion but before you lower the boom, may I suggest updating the forum rules so we know specifically what you want to avoid (and where you want to avoid it). I can easily ignore the back and forth sniping between a couple of people, especially when it is limited, and especially if it is FYI and RR forums. If you eliminate any back and forth sniping, you'll effectively reduce the population here about 80%. Do you have a specific cutoff in mind - such as no personal comments or no personal comments outside certain threads? No 'excessive' sniping? It's a tough line to walk. Anyone can see that the back and forth here is poisonous, but there are other levels of back and forth that tend to come close. I've engaged in some of that myself on FYI/RR, so I guess you could start by banning Mrayn....# !UrrK#$%#%%#! HELP....Help....help...

Look, back and forth "sniping" is one thing, but how much of that is OK? Reduce the population by 80%? Well, that assumes no one leaves because of stuff like that. Impossible to know that. If 80% leave because of "no sniping", then we aren't talking about the packers are we? If I were to ban "sniping" and "personal attacks" and you leave, but, two others who just lurk or left because they got attacked or don't like sniping start participating, then what is the difference? I'd like EVERYONE to feel welcome. Pollyannish? You bet. But why not?

I can write rules. But my experience in writing them is that then we set the least acceptable "baseline". Next, a bunch of creative people with nothing else to do, figure out how close they can get to the "stated rule" without breaking it. Not the intent of the rule, that's for sure. Then we get into a judgment area of "how close is too close". Not really different from where we are now, is it?

People know what they have to do to "get along" in forums. I'd like to try that first. Might not work, but we'll see. Got a nice PM from someone today. Gives me cause to hope.

Some people just don't like each other. Rules aren't going to fix that.

Wow MAD PROPS! I think Joe has what it takes to deal with us "Ruffians"

P.S. Falco is pretty

[mraynrand]

Look, back and forth "sniping" is one thing, but how much of that is OK?

That's the $64,000 question. I wish you all the best in figuring it out. I wouldn't want your job.

[Bretsky]

All this is completely at your discretion but before you lower the boom, may I suggest updating the forum rules so we know specifically what you want to avoid (and where you want to avoid it). I can easily ignore the back and forth sniping between a couple of people, especially when it is limited, and especially if it is FYI and RR forums. If you eliminate any back and forth sniping, you'll effectively reduce the population here about 80%. Do you have a specific cutoff in mind - such as no personal comments or no personal comments outside certain threads? No 'excessive' sniping? It's a tough line to walk. Anyone can see that the back and forth here is poisonous, but there are other levels of back and forth that tend to come close. I've engaged in some of that myself on FYI/RR, so I guess you could start by banning Mrayn....# !UrrK#$%#%%#! HELP....Help....help...

I second what Ayn is saying here.

Everybody has in their mind what good conduct is, and you assume it is "just common sense." But people in individual situations ALWAYS think they are being reasonable, and its the other guy(s) who are unreasonable. If some guidelines are written down, the perps are less likely to feel picked-on, and the monitor doesn't have to play the Heavy in every situation.

I think it is fine if the Admin writes the conduct rules. If I were Admin, I would let an elected committee of two or three people do it, that has some advantages.

As usual I completely disagree with Harlan Being specific with verbiage only allows for nitpicking and arguing of the specifics. And nobody would be insane enough to want to be on that group of 3.

Mr Admin can run this forum with the best interests concept in mind and if he means well his forum will be well served. I'm sure he'll PM a poster once or twice before any action is taken.

Specific rules would just get questioned and nitpicked to death; and it'd be very likely you'd be helping with da toothpicks

[Bretsky]

......although I suppose you have far more experience with new brides than me.

Not on the same day. That would be tacky.

I'll bet I've really let down B.

And I idolized you with your seven brides at once