This guy looks like a moron now

[Tyrone Bigguns]

TY, I ACTUALLY REALLY LIKE THIS POST

1. Partial tells us not to use numbers, wins and losses are how you judge a QB, but then we should be prepared for massive crow if he doesn't put up an 85. But, i thought wins and losses defined a QB.

BOTH MATTER TO A DEGREE. WHO CARES IF YOU HAVE PRETTY STATS AND LOSE? WHO CARES IF YOU HAVE UGLY STATS AND WIN? WINNING HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST AND FOREMOST.

2. Makes a comparison to VY and closing out games. VY doesn't have a large enough sample size to draw conclusions about his ability to close out games.

IF VY'S SAMPLE SIZE ISN'T BIG ENOUGH (ROTY AFTER HIS FIRST YEAR STARTING), THEN ITS PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON RODGERS. I AGREE COMPLETELY THAT BOTH NEED MORE GAMES UNDER THEIR BELTS BEFORE WE CAN CONCLUDE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.


3. Compares VY to Arod...how?


I DIDN'T MAKE THAT ARGUMENT. SOMEONE ELSE INITIALLY MADE THAT COMPARISON, NOT ME. TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BALL PLAYERS. VY ISN'T SO MUCH A TRADITIONAL QB IN MY OPINION, AS I HAVE SAID ALL ALONG.

NFL IS CATCHING ON TO PARTIAL BALL. PAT WHITE AND THE WILD CAT ARE GONNA BE BIG. PUT YOUNG IN A ROLL WHERE HE ISN'T A REQUIRED TO BE A TRADITIONAL POCKET PASSER AND CAN USE HIS WHEELS AND HE'LL BE FINE.

4. Comes back with the injury prone argument. Did he miss any games last year? No. Brett was always injured, but Brett is a warrior.

NOPE, HE WAS HEALTHY IN HIS FIRST YEAR STARTING. HOWEVER, WE MISSED KEY GAMES IN 2007 WITH AN INJURY, HAD A BROKEN FOOT IN 2006, AND I BELIEVE HE GOT HURT BADLY IN 2005 AS WELL. HE'S NOT OUT OF THE WATER YET.

5. Be prepared to eat massive crow. Admin...if you don't see how he is asking for it then..well, you are just being kind. If we are suppose to be ready for crow..then he and you should be prepared for us to serve him crow...right now, since he is foolish.

NOT REALLY, NOTHING HAS BEEN SHOWN EITHER WAY. I DON'T THINK RODGERS HAD AS GOOD OF A SEASON AS MANY HERE DO. HE WAS 6-10. WINS AND LOSSES COME BEFORE STATS. SLIGHTLY BETTER OFFENSIVE PERFORMANCES IN A FEW OF THOSE CLOSE LOSSES AND NOT RELYING SO MUCH ON THE D AND THIS TEAM IS A PLAYOFF TEAM AND MY OPINION OF RODGERS IS MUCH DIFFERENT. HE CAN'T LAY AN EGG FOR 3 QUARTERS AGAINST GOOD TEAMS.

I likes what i posted. I feel very dirty.

[Zool]

I would much rather have the Packers fail and have all the douches leave the forum. Absolutely.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Partial when the packer season is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...

Now you're fucked. P put Iocane powder in both goblets.

I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.

As you wish sweet Wesley.

[cpk1994]

FOR THE LAST TIME, THE ENTIRE TEAM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 6-10 NOT JUST RODGRS. YOUR BULLSHIT IS GETTING OLD. QUIT GIVNG THE DEFENSE A FEE PASS. NO ONE IS BUIYING THE BULLSHIT YOU ARE SELLING!

fixored

Couldn't let me have my rant, could you?

I was going to. I almost didn't post it, but although P is doing almost all of this because he likes being the anti-hero he occasionally lets out a nugget of truth. Rodgers didnt play like a vet QB. Granted he isn't one yet so that has a whole lot to do with it. Maybe if the O sustains 1-2 more drives for 3 more downs in the first half the D doesn't have to hold a 6 point lead in the 4th. Maybe a vet QB makes the correct check down on a 3rd and 3 more often than a newb.

Maybe if the D didn't play like a sieve in the 4th quarter maybe Rodgers doesn't have to have all this shit lumped on his shoulders. I mean the kid had to deal with Favre questions about 3-4 hours a day for 8 months. All the while being a first time starter in the NFL. And this is the crux of my problem with all the Rodgers bashing. Favre was a fucking moron in his first 2 seasons. People were calling for him to be replaced by Detmer. He turned out to be pretty good for a couple seasons after that.

Maybe instead of playing Retard Hatfields against Brain Damaged McCoys we could just let this discussion rest. It's not like either side is going to convince the other of anything.

I agree about AFvre. But there is only one person calling for Rodgers to be replaced. Only one person who already believes that Rodgers is a bust, and will make up facts, change arguments when one doesn't work, and refuses to give that player a chance. Only one person.

[Bretsky]

FOR THE LAST TIME, THE ENTIRE TEAM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 6-10 NOT JUST RODGRS. YOUR BULLSHIT IS GETTING OLD. QUIT GIVNG THE DEFENSE A FEE PASS. NO ONE IS BUIYING THE BULLSHIT YOU ARE SELLING!

fixored

Couldn't let me have my rant, could you?

I was going to. I almost didn't post it, but although P is doing almost all of this because he likes being the anti-hero he occasionally lets out a nugget of truth. Rodgers didnt play like a vet QB. Granted he isn't one yet so that has a whole lot to do with it. Maybe if the O sustains 1-2 more drives for 3 more downs in the first half the D doesn't have to hold a 6 point lead in the 4th. Maybe a vet QB makes the correct check down on a 3rd and 3 more often than a newb.

Maybe if the D didn't play like a sieve in the 4th quarter maybe Rodgers doesn't have to have all this shit lumped on his shoulders. I mean the kid had to deal with Favre questions about 3-4 hours a day for 8 months. All the while being a first time starter in the NFL. And this is the crux of my problem with all the Rodgers bashing. Favre was a fucking moron in his first 2 seasons. People were calling for him to be replaced by Detmer. He turned out to be pretty good for a couple seasons after that.

Maybe instead of playing Retard Hatfields against Brain Damaged McCoys we could just let this discussion rest. It's not like either side is going to convince the other of anything.

I agree about AFvre. But there is only one person calling for Rodgers to be replaced. Only one person who already believes that Rodgers is a bust, and will make up facts, change arguments when one doesn't work, and refuses to give that player a chance. Only one person.

source ?

I don't know of anybody calling for Rodgers to be currently replaced

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I would much rather have the Packers fail and have all the douches leave the forum. Absolutely.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia, but only slightly less well-known is this: never go in against a Partial when the packer season is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha...

Now you're fucked. P put Iocane powder in both goblets.

I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.

As you wish sweet Wesley.

I can't compete with you physically, and you're no match for my brains.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

FOR THE LAST TIME, THE ENTIRE TEAM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 6-10 NOT JUST RODGRS. YOUR BULLSHIT IS GETTING OLD. QUIT GIVNG THE DEFENSE A FEE PASS. NO ONE IS BUIYING THE BULLSHIT YOU ARE SELLING!

fixored

Couldn't let me have my rant, could you?

I was going to. I almost didn't post it, but although P is doing almost all of this because he likes being the anti-hero he occasionally lets out a nugget of truth. Rodgers didnt play like a vet QB. Granted he isn't one yet so that has a whole lot to do with it. Maybe if the O sustains 1-2 more drives for 3 more downs in the first half the D doesn't have to hold a 6 point lead in the 4th. Maybe a vet QB makes the correct check down on a 3rd and 3 more often than a newb.

Maybe if the D didn't play like a sieve in the 4th quarter maybe Rodgers doesn't have to have all this shit lumped on his shoulders. I mean the kid had to deal with Favre questions about 3-4 hours a day for 8 months. All the while being a first time starter in the NFL. And this is the crux of my problem with all the Rodgers bashing. Favre was a fucking moron in his first 2 seasons. People were calling for him to be replaced by Detmer. He turned out to be pretty good for a couple seasons after that.

Maybe instead of playing Retard Hatfields against Brain Damaged McCoys we could just let this discussion rest. It's not like either side is going to convince the other of anything.

I agree about AFvre. But there is only one person calling for Rodgers to be replaced. Only one person who already believes that Rodgers is a bust, and will make up facts, change arguments when one doesn't work, and refuses to give that player a chance. Only one person.

source ?

I don't know of anybody calling for Rodgers to be currently replaced

Partial is. Partial believes that Arod isn't elite. Therefore you should be on the lookout for the elite QB. Elite QBs are the key to long term success.

Until Partial has deemed any GB QB elite they all should be replaced as soon as possible.

Partial is working on software to determine which children have the greatest chance of being elite.

[Bretsky]

FOR THE LAST TIME, THE ENTIRE TEAM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 6-10 NOT JUST RODGRS. YOUR BULLSHIT IS GETTING OLD. QUIT GIVNG THE DEFENSE A FEE PASS. NO ONE IS BUIYING THE BULLSHIT YOU ARE SELLING!

fixored

Couldn't let me have my rant, could you?

I was going to. I almost didn't post it, but although P is doing almost all of this because he likes being the anti-hero he occasionally lets out a nugget of truth. Rodgers didnt play like a vet QB. Granted he isn't one yet so that has a whole lot to do with it. Maybe if the O sustains 1-2 more drives for 3 more downs in the first half the D doesn't have to hold a 6 point lead in the 4th. Maybe a vet QB makes the correct check down on a 3rd and 3 more often than a newb.

Maybe if the D didn't play like a sieve in the 4th quarter maybe Rodgers doesn't have to have all this shit lumped on his shoulders. I mean the kid had to deal with Favre questions about 3-4 hours a day for 8 months. All the while being a first time starter in the NFL. And this is the crux of my problem with all the Rodgers bashing. Favre was a fucking moron in his first 2 seasons. People were calling for him to be replaced by Detmer. He turned out to be pretty good for a couple seasons after that.

Maybe instead of playing Retard Hatfields against Brain Damaged McCoys we could just let this discussion rest. It's not like either side is going to convince the other of anything.

I agree about AFvre. But there is only one person calling for Rodgers to be replaced. Only one person who already believes that Rodgers is a bust, and will make up facts, change arguments when one doesn't work, and refuses to give that player a chance. Only one person.

source ?

I don't know of anybody calling for Rodgers to be currently replaced

Partial is. Partial believes that Arod isn't elite. Therefore you should be on the lookout for the elite QB. Elite QBs are the key to long term success.

Until Partial has deemed any GB QB elite they all should be replaced as soon as possible.

Partial is working on software to determine which children have the greatest chance of being elite.

Not looking for "therefore's"

People have often asked Partial for a source

I'd like to see where/source saying he stated AROD needs to be replaced

No cause and effect stuff

Did he or did he not say that; and I understand you are not the person who noted this.

I doubt I'm the only one out here who's tired of the gang mentaility type tone lately

[HarveyWallbangers]

You better all hope like hell he doesn't put up an 85 QB rating next year..................

And this would make you happy because...................???

This is the part that pisses me off. It seems like P would be happy if the Packers fail this year so he can be right.

don't really buy it.

Maybe my reading comprehension is poor, but he seems to clearly state this view.

This is the part that pisses me off. It seems like P would be happy if the Packers fail this year so he can be right.

Absolutely after taking everyone's crap for months now...

I would much rather have the Packers fail and have all the douches leave the forum. Absolutely.

[SnakeLH2006]

I think many of you miss the point here. Thing is the Packers probably made the right decision. My only concern is if the Packers suck or are mediocre for the next 5 years, I would have rather watched Favre for 1 or 2 more years...Brett is a once in a generation type player and I will never get enough of watching him play. I hope Rodgers leads this team to a superbowl and "great success", but chances are he will end his career as an average to slightly above average quarterback for one reason or another and we will have missed out on Favre finishing his career here for us.

Snake was just about over the Favre shit (99%)..then you had to post that, LEWCWA... I think Arod can be an elite QB so Snake is happy with this now and in the future...but to you dragged up something Snake forgot why I was so salty last year on the "exodus". Ouch....and yeah, I was happy to see Favre go out on his last legs as a Packer for life, no matter how it happened, but not so in 2008....

But (big breath) I still am happy with Arod although his charisma/gameplay make me yearn for Brett (even now) but I won't let that cloud my mindstate in saying it WAS the best decision at that time to let Brett go. It sucks, but that bolded part makes Snake yearn for what if (it's not like we won 6 games under Arod and Brett still won 9) oh wait..that sux Brett still won more games (not trying to be Paco)..and don't wanna get into that anymore, but man, dude, you really made Snake think about shit...

Your post, just made me realize how much I loved watching Brett play. The only athlete I can compare him to for intensity/must watch (as this guy can just win ANY game is Michael Jordan) and I know some might drop/question me for those views, but it's true and can't shake the feeling he gave me on gameday. That is irreplaceable as a sports fan. I love/loved watching him play as an indestructible sports beast that can will a game....that is why I loved Brett, the player, and don't care about the drama in the offseasons. I like Arod, but damn if I'd pay to meet Arod and go drink with him at some pissy club with his Twitter buddies, but be sure Snake would pay to see Brett play one more year. That's what it comes down too and can see why some hate Brett now, but I really think he's ultra competive and worthy of TV time, even at 40, a testament to his media draw and stature as an ICON.

Thanks for inciting Snake into a frenzy, but we won't see another like Brett on the field for a long time. Manning is just a great player, but Brett transcended what football is to Snake. I loved his never say die attitude. Manning and Brady are pretty bland and hard to root for, and dont' bash me, but so is Arod. I root for him as a Packerfan, but not as a player...as he seems pretty bland, but hope he does well so our team does well.

Regardless, I love ARod, but damn Brett made me happy watching him play (and still would no matter where he plays/played...Jets, Vikes). That shit made me turn my view aside. Thanks much dude. That whole once in a generation comment really got to me though, and as good as ARod is/will be (Snake supports him and the Pack) I really am sad to see that we can't see the endrun of Brett in GB. You really got to Snake, dude, as that sums up how I was feeling a year ago, but now again. Damn it. Damn it all. This sucks. I wanna see Brett play. Love seeing him play and don't care about the drama. Damn. Snake is VERY sarcastic normally, but I mean that. Damn. Good ass post dude.

[cpk1994]

FOR THE LAST TIME, THE ENTIRE TEAM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 6-10 NOT JUST RODGRS. YOUR BULLSHIT IS GETTING OLD. QUIT GIVNG THE DEFENSE A FEE PASS. NO ONE IS BUIYING THE BULLSHIT YOU ARE SELLING!

fixored

Couldn't let me have my rant, could you?

I was going to. I almost didn't post it, but although P is doing almost all of this because he likes being the anti-hero he occasionally lets out a nugget of truth. Rodgers didnt play like a vet QB. Granted he isn't one yet so that has a whole lot to do with it. Maybe if the O sustains 1-2 more drives for 3 more downs in the first half the D doesn't have to hold a 6 point lead in the 4th. Maybe a vet QB makes the correct check down on a 3rd and 3 more often than a newb.

Maybe if the D didn't play like a sieve in the 4th quarter maybe Rodgers doesn't have to have all this shit lumped on his shoulders. I mean the kid had to deal with Favre questions about 3-4 hours a day for 8 months. All the while being a first time starter in the NFL. And this is the crux of my problem with all the Rodgers bashing. Favre was a fucking moron in his first 2 seasons. People were calling for him to be replaced by Detmer. He turned out to be pretty good for a couple seasons after that.

Maybe instead of playing Retard Hatfields against Brain Damaged McCoys we could just let this discussion rest. It's not like either side is going to convince the other of anything.

I agree about AFvre. But there is only one person calling for Rodgers to be replaced. Only one person who already believes that Rodgers is a bust, and will make up facts, change arguments when one doesn't work, and refuses to give that player a chance. Only one person.

source ?

I don't know of anybody calling for Rodgers to be currently replaced

Then you really aren't reading this forum close. Partial has called for Rodgers to be replaced. He said that if you are not a stud QB you should be replaced and that Rodgers isn't a stud QB. Good lord it weas obvious who I was referring to.

[cpk1994]

FOR THE LAST TIME, THE ENTIRE TEAM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 6-10 NOT JUST RODGRS. YOUR BULLSHIT IS GETTING OLD. QUIT GIVNG THE DEFENSE A FEE PASS. NO ONE IS BUIYING THE BULLSHIT YOU ARE SELLING!

fixored

Couldn't let me have my rant, could you?

I was going to. I almost didn't post it, but although P is doing almost all of this because he likes being the anti-hero he occasionally lets out a nugget of truth. Rodgers didnt play like a vet QB. Granted he isn't one yet so that has a whole lot to do with it. Maybe if the O sustains 1-2 more drives for 3 more downs in the first half the D doesn't have to hold a 6 point lead in the 4th. Maybe a vet QB makes the correct check down on a 3rd and 3 more often than a newb.

Maybe if the D didn't play like a sieve in the 4th quarter maybe Rodgers doesn't have to have all this shit lumped on his shoulders. I mean the kid had to deal with Favre questions about 3-4 hours a day for 8 months. All the while being a first time starter in the NFL. And this is the crux of my problem with all the Rodgers bashing. Favre was a fucking moron in his first 2 seasons. People were calling for him to be replaced by Detmer. He turned out to be pretty good for a couple seasons after that.

Maybe instead of playing Retard Hatfields against Brain Damaged McCoys we could just let this discussion rest. It's not like either side is going to convince the other of anything.

I agree about AFvre. But there is only one person calling for Rodgers to be replaced. Only one person who already believes that Rodgers is a bust, and will make up facts, change arguments when one doesn't work, and refuses to give that player a chance. Only one person.

source ?

I don't know of anybody calling for Rodgers to be currently replaced

Partial is. Partial believes that Arod isn't elite. Therefore you should be on the lookout for the elite QB. Elite QBs are the key to long term success.

Until Partial has deemed any GB QB elite they all should be replaced as soon as possible.

Partial is working on software to determine which children have the greatest chance of being elite.

Not looking for "therefore's"

People have often asked Partial for a source

I'd like to see where/source saying he stated AROD needs to be replaced

No cause and effect stuff

Did he or did he not say that; and I understand you are not the person who noted this.

I doubt I'm the only one out here who's tired of the gang mentaility type tone lately

Ty is exactly right. There was no "therefore". It was directly impled.

[Partial]

FOR THE LAST TIME, THE ENTIRE TEAM WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR 6-10 NOT JUST RODGRS. YOUR BULLSHIT IS GETTING OLD. QUIT GIVNG THE DEFENSE A FEE PASS. NO ONE IS BUIYING THE BULLSHIT YOU ARE SELLING!

fixored

Couldn't let me have my rant, could you?

I was going to. I almost didn't post it, but although P is doing almost all of this because he likes being the anti-hero he occasionally lets out a nugget of truth. Rodgers didnt play like a vet QB. Granted he isn't one yet so that has a whole lot to do with it. Maybe if the O sustains 1-2 more drives for 3 more downs in the first half the D doesn't have to hold a 6 point lead in the 4th. Maybe a vet QB makes the correct check down on a 3rd and 3 more often than a newb.

Maybe if the D didn't play like a sieve in the 4th quarter maybe Rodgers doesn't have to have all this shit lumped on his shoulders. I mean the kid had to deal with Favre questions about 3-4 hours a day for 8 months. All the while being a first time starter in the NFL. And this is the crux of my problem with all the Rodgers bashing. Favre was a fucking moron in his first 2 seasons. People were calling for him to be replaced by Detmer. He turned out to be pretty good for a couple seasons after that.

Maybe instead of playing Retard Hatfields against Brain Damaged McCoys we could just let this discussion rest. It's not like either side is going to convince the other of anything.

I agree about AFvre. But there is only one person calling for Rodgers to be replaced. Only one person who already believes that Rodgers is a bust, and will make up facts, change arguments when one doesn't work, and refuses to give that player a chance. Only one person.

source ?

I don't know of anybody calling for Rodgers to be currently replaced

Then you really aren't reading this forum close. Partial has called for Rodgers to be replaced. He said that if you are not a stud QB you should be replaced and that Rodgers isn't a stud QB. Good lord it weas obvious who I was referring to.

Not true. This is part of the problem with this forum. People read what they want to read, not what is actually written.

I said, verbatim, "If you don't have a superstar QB, you should actively pursue improving this position until you do, just like any other position". You should not NOT draft Peyton Manning because you have ARod, for example

[Gunakor]

Partial has never directly said Rodgers needs to be replaced, as far as I can remember. However, he has indirectly implied as much. Repeatedly. He says that if a QB isn't in the elite class then the team should always be looking for an upgrade. Then he claims that Rodgers doesn't have the ever important "It" factor. Put 2 and 2 together and you come up with Partial indirectly saying that since Rodgers isn't elite, then the team should be looking for an upgrade. It's a pretty easy interpretation.

[cpk1994]

Not true. This is part of the problem with this forum. People read what they want to read, not what is actually written.

I said, verbatim, "If you don't have a superstar QB, you should actively pursue improving this position until you do, just like any other position". You should not NOT draft Peyton Manning because you have ARod, for example

And you already made up your mind that ARod is not a superstar and refuse to give him a chacne to be so. You are IMPLYING that Rodgers should be replaced becuase he isn't a superstar.

[Partial]

Not true. This is part of the problem with this forum. People read what they want to read, not what is actually written.

I said, verbatim, "If you don't have a superstar QB, you should actively pursue improving this position until you do, just like any other position". You should not NOT draft Peyton Manning because you have ARod, for example

And you already made up your mind that ARod is not a superstar and refuse to give him a chacne to be so. You are IMPLYING that Rodgers should be replaced becuase he isn't a superstar.

No, I'm implying he can hang around if he is A) a superstar (which I don't believe) or B) until they have a shot at a superstar in the draft or FA.