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Ty only works for big companies, remember? Big, slow moving companies that don't use tools like this
Ty never said he only works for big companies.
Ty finds your gushing over google wave embarrasing.
Partial believes that as a self-employed person part time on a small team this will be very useful and is worth the embarrassing giddiness.
Of course you do. Ah, the naivete of youth.
Right. It's incredibly naive of me to think that an application designed for project management and push wiki w/ accountability will not at all make project management much easier for a small web team What an outlandish idea! The ignorance of youth! They can't possibly know the tools they need to best do their job!
Thank god, there are no PM software out there.
They might know...but, you certainly don't. You aren't a PM..and if you are one..the team is fucked.
Find me a piece of PM software that does all of the things that Google Wave does, then we'll talk
Project manager? For a side job I work with 4 peers on a web application. It's a small team and project management is something we do together.
At my full time job, I work with one of the 209 PGMPs in the world and interact with them on a daily basis in a very close manner. What they do and what all 4 of us do is not very different, except imo we're better at it as we don't have all the corporate overhead getting in the way of success.
So go fuck yourself and your high horse.
Who said the PM had to do all of Wave to be useable. My god..how are projects getting done right now. The horror.
Side job..lol. To even compare that is laughable.
You work close with a PGMP...and you think you know exactly what they do? I'm sure you are hovering over their desk 8 hours a day. I'm sure you are in every meeting they attend. I'm sure you are at their house at night. LOL
P.S. Certification is fine, but dont' act like that is special. Plenty of good PMs that don't have a cert.
P.P.S. Like most things...you are wrong about how many are out there.
No one made those claims Ty. It's going to be a huge new technology. I don't care what you think or don't. If you want to be slow and less productive than people like me, go ahead. No skin off my back.
You're laughable man. You've been wrong plenty of times before and will be again. I love how you think you're just so smart that you can proclaim something backed by one of the richest companies in the world as a failure when basically everything else they've backed has been successful.
Then again, I bet you think Gmail, Google Docs and Maps are all failures anyway
something backed by one of the richest companies in the world as a failure when basically everything else they've backed has been successful.
I remembered reading this when it first came out. I was on a plane and bought the magazine in a gift shop. Surprised it is still online, but P, you might want to review this:
something backed by one of the richest companies in the world as a failure when basically everything else they've backed has been successful.
I remembered reading this when it first came out. I was on a plane and bought the magazine in a gift shop. Surprised it is still online, but P, you might want to review this:
Most of those are very small projects. Wave is a GMail sized project easily, and Google has it's finest engineers, the duo the wrote the GMaps app doing this.
I don't like that link because Google Checkout and Orkut are hardly failures. Both are pretty popular. Some of those ideas are big time failures on small integrations, though, thats for sure.
No one made those claims Ty. It's going to be a huge new technology. I don't care what you think or don't. If you want to be slow and less productive than people like me, go ahead. No skin off my back.
You're laughable man. You've been wrong plenty of times before and will be again. I love how you think you're just so smart that you can proclaim something backed by one of the richest companies in the world as a failure when basically everything else they've backed has been successful.
Then again, I bet you think Gmail, Google Docs and Maps are all failures anyway
It may or may not be hugely successful. There may or may not be challengers. the simple fact is that you dont' know enough about it to say one thing.
Slow and less productive: You mean like those who adopt a new technology over what they already know.
Find one quote where i proclaim it as a failure..king strawman.
P.S. Everything else has been successful? Why dont' you list all the google failures?
Here i'll help you start off the list:
1. Google Accelerator.
2. Google Answers.
3. Google Video.
4. Google X.
5. Orkut
6. Google Checkout
7. Google Viewer
8. Google Voice search
9. Google Coupons
10. Google Catalog
Since google employees are suppose to devote 20% of their time to personal projects..one would expect many failures. No slam on google, but you are a complete dope.
Just a question since I don't have an hour and a half to watch a rich geek talk at me, but isn't this basically the same thing as SharePoint?
Sharepoint is god awful compared to this, are you kidding me? We use that POS at my job at its awful.
Things this does that share point doesn't (as far as I know, i'm not a power user or anything)
1. Update automatically in real time
2. Provide nearly the same quality of interface for threaded discussions
3. Where is the API to embed share point within other sites
4. No notion of "wave". A wave is basically an entire share point entity itself.
5. Does Sharepoint have version control? Wave has version control built in
6. Drag and drop, can you drag and drop into SP? If not, how do you handle bulk uploading without individually selecting each file. Drag and drop is infinitely faster
7. Automatic uploading and pushing, Does SP do this?
8. Free
9. Open source so anyone can make any modifications or improvements, or use the technology in any other products they wish (they biggest, most important point of them all)
That said, they're different beasts. I can envision a million and a half uses for Google Wave beyond the demo. Remote group programming IDE, is just one of many examples.
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