FUCK THE NRA !!!

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You will find that there are more cars per household than guns.

not in my household

50% of families own atleast 1 gun. I would say the people that have guns have several, especially hunters. I would say there are more cars, but it wouldn't surprise me if the margin was smaller thant we'd think.

[Tony Oday]

I have two vehicles and 17 guns

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You will find that there are more cars per household than guns.

not in my household

Rednecks are exceptions.

[Fosco33]

Totally agree, the right to defend ourselves is a fundamental as the right for free speech, the right to be innocent till proven guilt and others. Just because people are killed by these weapons (mostly by people who haven't taken the NRA endorsed classes) you can't outlaw them. Lets outlaw cars because there are so many deaths attributed to them. I don't have children yet, but ifI ever walked into a room in the future and saw an intruder and my family in grave danger, i would not hesitate one second to give that bastard a one-way ticket to hell.

The 2nd Amendment was passed during the revolutionary war era to authorize the use of arms by US militias against the British. We are not fighting the British anymore, and we sure as hell dont use militias anymore. To compare the freedom of speech to the right to bare arms is like, as the saying goes, comparing apples to oranges.

The government, at all levels, are obligated to protect their citizens. Thats where cops comes from. If you are white, then consider yourself lucky because the cops are on your side. Even without law enforcement protection, your chance of survival would be better if your intruder is gun-less. How often do you carry a gun with you while walking down the street? Because of the NRA, their ideology and their enormous influence on politics, anybody can shoot you from out of nowhere. In the case of snipers, you would dead before you even know it, even if you are carrying a gun with you.

JKF, MLK, John Lennon, and countless other innocent human beings are dead because of guns. How could society be safer for your kids? Get rid of guns!

What....

The US government was established to allow militias to overthrown the government that impedes upon life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Go back to grade school and reread the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and Constiution again. You'd be amazed the clarity of reading it because you want to - not because you have to.

Our forefathers were great visionaries. This right, owning guns, is vital to being American.

Take a look at the laws in Florida (conceled weapons) - violent crime has gone down. If a thug knows the guy (or girl or grandma) he wants to rob could blow his head off - he'll think twice.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

The US government was established to allow militias to overthrown the government that impedes upon life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Go back to grade school and reread the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights and Constiution again. You'd be amazed the clarity of reading it because you want to - not because you have to.

Our forefathers were great visionaries. This right, owning guns, is vital to being American.

Take a look at the laws in Florida (conceled weapons) - violent crime has gone down. If a thug knows the guy (or girl or grandma) he wants to rob could blow his head off - he'll think twice.

And are we still living in the Revolutionary Era? Do we still use militias to defend our freedom? Today, the Military, if they wanted to, could drop a nuclear bomb on an ememy and send it to kingdom come. Guns was created with the intent to kill. Gun is the most effective way to murder someone. There is no need for civilians to continue killing each others with guns. I guess to you, allowing some one the freedom to acquire a gun to murder some one else is "vital to being American."

You can not use florida's statistic alone to represent the whole nation. You are ignoring large cities such as NYC, LA, Chicago and DC, where the majority of homicides occurs. I live in Georgetown so homicide is rare, but one can still the hear sirens from the southeast part of the city every day. There is where the majority of crimes occurs. Drive by shootings, school shootings, kidnapping at gunpoint in broad daylight. Take away guns and such neighborhood would automatically become safer. Trust me, thugs do not want to fight a hard working neighborhood without their guns.

And, amongst many less famous school-related incidents, there was Columbine. Kids gets ahold of guns because their parents are free to buy them.

Self-Defense? I ask again, how many of you carry a gun with you while walking down the street? Would the odds of survival be better if an intruder isnt shooting at you from 20 feets away? If an intruder breaks into your house, wouldn't he have the advantage since he knows more about handling guns than you do? (who likely would win, your gradman with a gun in her safe or a thug robbing her with a gun in his hand?)

[Anti-Polar Bear]

I guess, sociologically and to paraphrase my sociology professor (who, by the way, is white), the underlying motive behind the NRA and gun-loving conservatives fucks' desire for gun rights is to preserve the symbol of white superiority. After all, it was the European gun that conquered America from the Native Americans. Now, you blond bland middle class republicans sits back in the comfort of your suburb home, and watch as blacks and Latinos kills each others in the cities.

Conservatives are evil.

Liberals are good.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Go watch Michael Moore's "Bowling for Columbine."

[Tarlam!]

Why is Tank now bashing the National Rowing Association?

[Fosco33]

And are we still living in the Revolutionary Era? Do we still use militias to defend our freedom? Today, the Military, if they wanted to, could drop a nuclear bomb on an ememy and send it to kingdom come. Guns was created with the intent to kill. Gun is the most effective way to murder someone. There is no need for civilians to continue killing each others with guns. I guess to you, allowing some one the freedom to acquire a gun to murder some one else is "vital to being American."

You can not use florida's statistic alone to represent the whole nation. You are ignoring large cities such as NYC, LA, Chicago and DC, where the majority of homicides occurs. I live in Georgetown so homicide is rare, but one can still the hear sirens from the southeast part of the city every day. There is where the majority of crimes occurs. Drive by shootings, school shootings, kidnapping at gunpoint in broad daylight. Take away guns and such neighborhood would automatically become safer. Trust me, thugs do not want to fight a hard working neighborhood without their guns.

And, amongst many less famous school-related incidents, there was Columbine. Kids gets ahold of guns because their parents are free to buy them.

Self-Defense? I ask again, how many of you carry a gun with you while walking down the street? Would the odds of survival be better if an intruder isnt shooting at you from 20 feets away? If an intruder breaks into your house, wouldn't he have the advantage since he knows more about handling guns than you do? (who likely would win, your gradman with a gun in her safe or a thug robbing her with a gun in his hand?)

Here are some exerpts from the Declaration.

IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.



Article 1; Section 8 of the Constitution:

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

The first 10 Amendments from the Bill of Rights, in original format:
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


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Amendment II

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.


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Amendment III

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.


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Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


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Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


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Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.


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Amendment VII

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


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Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.


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Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


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Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

[Fosco33]

Tank,

You're quick to say we don't need a militia because this is not the 1700s.

As soon as a police force is deemed unsuitable and the national guard is being called up, we can call for martial law.

Just because it doesn't happen frequently doesn't mean we shouldn't have the right to defend the country from either the government or a foreign attack.

[MadtownPacker]

OK Tanky, you might not need a gun living in a gated and secured community like a spoiled lil rich girl that you are but if you ever move to an average American city there is gonna be crime. If someone tries to break in your house calling 911 just aint good enough. You need to have the ability to blast them and blast them immediately. By the time the cops get there you will be a victim. With a nice shotgun or pistol you can blast a lowlife today and live to play another day.

Judging by your post and generally stupid comments I am guessing that you dont know shit about guns that arent connected to video games at the mall.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

As soon as a police force is deemed unsuitable and the national guard is being called up, we can call for martial law.

Just because it doesn't happen frequently doesn't mean we shouldn't have the right to defend the country from either the government or a foreign attack.

And when will police "force be deemed unsuitable and the national guard is being called up?" Remember you are living a democracy of checks and balances. Read the second amendment again. It reads "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Is your tax dollars going to militias or is it going to the state, the fed, and the military? Like I said, it is the governments obligation to protect us and military's obligation to "defend the country from foreign attack." Last I checked, Amercia was a democracy (or republic if you want to call it that way) and it has the worlds most powerful military.

USA is not Stalinist communism or Maoist communism, or Nazi fascism. If anything, giving people the right to bear arm only increase the chance of revolution. And if another revolution does occur and succed you can be sure to kiss the constitution you are so fond off goodbye.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

OK Tanky, you might not need a gun living in a gated and secured community like a spoiled lil rich girl that you are but if you ever move to an average American city there is gonna be crime. If someone tries to break in your house calling 911 just aint good enough. You need to have the ability to blast them and blast them immediately. By the time the cops get there you will be a victim. With a nice shotgun or pistol you can blast a lowlife today and live to play another day.

Judging by your post and generally stupid comments I am guessing that you dont know shit about guns that arent connected to video games at the mall.

Georgetown is part of Washington DC, much like Harlem is part of NYC. DC has one of the highest crime rate in the US. Georgetown isnt gated. You are clueless.

[MadtownPacker]

Georgetown is part of Washington DC, much like Harlem is part of NYC. DC has one of the highest crime rate in the US. Georgetown isnt gated. You are clueless.

Clueless? Foolio you are one to talk. You are going to school there, but what about where you grew up? You may have shutdown Darren Charles on the football field but I bet you didn't shutdown anybody on the streets.

You are right about DC being high on crime. But I doubt you go to those areas where the sheeze goes down. I bet you would want a gun if someone had one pointing at your face.

Besides, you live in a dorm. Biggest danger is likely to 1st year females who accept drinks from strangers.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

You are right about DC being high on crime. But I doubt you go to those areas where the sheeze goes down. I bet you would want a gun if someone had one pointing at your face.

Besides, you live in a dorm. Biggest danger is likely to 1st year females who accept drinks from strangers.

See, you are clueless. First, i live in an off campus apt near the university (which is NOT owned by the university), not a dorm. Go to college and you'll find the difference. Secondly, what use would i have with a gun if someone is pointing another gun to my face? I, like most law abridging people, dont carry guns with me when I go out, dont have a gun, and even if i do, it would be locked in a safe somewhere with the safety bottom on. My, like everyones, chance of survival would be better if someone robs you WITHOUT a gun, allowing time for help and police.

You act like you know everything about street. Have you even been in a gang? Have you been shot at? Have you ever shot at anyone?

Strett gangs dont have jobs, except for dealing drugs. The fact the you have a job shows that you are just a "gangsta" wannabe. Hell you dont even live in LA. Or near LA.

Maybe you are part of the gang of Oakland?