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    Talk about looking for an excuse to cry about racism. You just broke into your own home and refused to come to the door, and were uncooperative afterward - but of course this is all about race. Thank goodness that the Reverend will be there to defend this guy's right to claim victimhood in place of utilizing common sense. His lawyer's already playing up the sick old black man with a cane abused by the black hating police angle. Hope and change is a one way street it seems.


    Police Investigating Robbery Report Accused of Racism After Harvard Professor's Arrest

    Tuesday, July 21, 2009
    AP

    BOSTON — Supporters of a prominent Harvard University black scholar who was arrested at his own home by police responding to a report of a break-in say he is the victim of racial profiling.

    Henry Louis Gates Jr. had forced his way through the front door of his home because it was jammed, his lawyer said Monday.

    Cambridge police say they responded to the well-maintained two-story home near campus after a woman reported seeing "two black males with backpacks on the porch," with one "wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry."

    By the time police arrived, Gates was already inside. Police say he refused to come outside to speak with an officer, who told him he was investigating a report of a break-in.

    "Why, because I'm a black man in America?" Gates said, according to a police report written by Sgt. James Crowley. The Cambridge police refused to comment on the arrest Monday.

    Gates — the director of Harvard's W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research — initially refused to show the officer his identification, but then gave him a Harvard University ID card, according to police.

    "Gates continued to yell at me, accusing me of racial bias and continued to tell me that I had not heard the last of him," the officer wrote.

    Gates said he turned over his driver's license and Harvard ID — both with his photos — and repeatedly asked for the name and badge number of the officer, who refused.

    He said he then followed the officer as he left his house onto his front porch, where he was handcuffed in front of other officers, Gates said in a statement released by his attorney, fellow Harvard scholar Charles Ogletree, on a Web site Gates oversees, TheRoot.com

    He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior." He was released later that day on his own recognizance. An arraignment was scheduled for Aug. 26.

    Gates, 58, also refused to speak publicly Monday, referring calls to Ogletree.

    "He was shocked to find himself being questioned and shocked that the conversation continued after he showed his identification," Ogletree said.

    Ogletree declined to say whether he believed the incident was racially motivated, saying "I think the incident speaks for itself."

    Some of Gates' African-American colleagues say the arrest is part of a pattern of racial profiling in Cambridge.

    Allen Counter, who has taught neuroscience at Harvard for 25 years, said he was stopped on campus by two Harvard police officers in 2004 after being mistaken for a robbery suspect. They threatened to arrest him when he could not produce identification.

    "We do not believe that this arrest would have happened if professor Gates was white," Counter said. "It really has been very unsettling for African-Americans throughout Harvard and throughout Cambridge that this happened."

    The Rev. Al Sharpton said he will attend Gates' arraignment.

    "This arrest is indicative of at best police abuse of power or at worst the highest example of racial profiling I have seen," Sharpton said. "I have heard of driving while black and even shopping while black but now even going to your own home while black is a new low in police community affairs."

    Ogletree said Gates had returned from a trip to China on Thursday with a driver, when he found his front door jammed. He went through the back door into the home — which he leases from Harvard — shut off an alarm and worked with the driver to get the door open. The driver left, and Gates was on the phone with the property's management company when police first arrived.

    Ogletree also disputed the claim that Gates, who was wearing slacks and a polo shirt and carrying a cane, was yelling at the officer.

    "He has an infection that has impacted his breathing since he came back from China, so he's been in a very delicate physical state," Ogletree said.

    Lawrence D. Bobo, the W.E.B Du Bois Professor of the Social Sciences at Harvard, said he met with Gates at the police station and described his colleague as feeling humiliated and "emotionally devastated."

    "It's just deeply disappointing but also a pointed reminder that there are serious problems that we have to wrestle with," he said.

    Bobo said he hoped Cambridge police would drop the charges and called on the department to use the incident to review training and screening procedures it has in place.

    The Middlesex district attorney's office said it could not do so until after Gates' arraignment. The woman who reported the apparent break-in did not return a message Monday.

    Gates joined the Harvard faculty in 1991 and holds one of 20 prestigious "university professors" positions at the school. He also was host of "African American Lives," a PBS show about the family histories of prominent U.S. blacks, and was named by Time magazine as one of the 25 most influential Americans in 1997.

    "I was obviously very concerned when I learned on Thursday about the incident," Harvard president Drew Gilpin Faust said in a statement. "He and I spoke directly and I have asked him to keep me apprised."
    "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

  • #2
    It sure ain't Yale.

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    • #3
      Your title disgusts me.

      The police were doing their job, responding to a could be break-in........ but
      the whole incident should have ended at this point:

      "He was shocked to find himself being questioned and shocked that the conversation continued after he showed his identification
      I'd have gotten a bit riled at that point also.

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      • #4
        Maybe the guy should respect police officers and not get all riled up because they are trying to keep peace and civility.

        Again, where is his personal responsibility in all this? Why does every black person think they are Rosa Parks.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
          Maybe the guy should respect police officers and not get all riled up because they are trying to keep peace and civility.

          Again, where is his personal responsibility in all this? Why does every black person think they are Rosa Parks.
          You're amazingly lucid this morning. I agree with you 98%. I don't really understand your homophobic undertones though.

          The guy's lucky he wasn't tasered -or worse - the moment he refused to comply with the request to come to the door. Showing your identification (after initially refusing to show it) doesn't give you the right to continue to abuse and harass the police officer. It also doesn't end the report the officer is going to have to write up on the incident - especially considering the man didn't own the house, so of course the officer's going to have more questions.

          Most sane people, without some kind of agenda, or black paranoia, would have been apologetic and conciliatory toward officers called to investigate you breaking into your own house, not combative and abusive.
          "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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          • #6
            Ever think this could have just been the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by SkinBasket
              Most sane people, without some kind of agenda, or black paranoia, would have been apologetic and conciliatory toward officers called to investigate you breaking into your own house, not combative and abusive.
              I'm not so sure about that. Not everybody is so understanding about government types coming on their land.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by packinpatland
                Even think this could have just been the proverbial straw that broke the camel's back?
                Uhhhhh... what? Breaking into a home he's renting then refusing to show identification is reason to assume the police responding to a neighbor's call is racially motivated?
                "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                • #9
                  Fucking pigs.

                  Fight the power!
                  C.H.U.D.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    Originally posted by SkinBasket
                    Most sane people, without some kind of agenda, or black paranoia, would have been apologetic and conciliatory toward officers called to investigate you breaking into your own house, not combative and abusive.
                    I'm not so sure about that. Not everybody is so understanding about government types coming on their land.

                    Didn't know my mailbox made it on the web? you should see the kids trying to smash that one with a ball bat.

                    PIP, could have had a phony ID. if he actually was a perp and had false ID and the police let him go, he proceeds to finish cleaning out the place. then who's at fault? they need to cover all bases

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                    • #11
                      I read the black prof's side of the story:


                      Henry Louis Gates, is pretty famous, on TV a lot. I recently watched a great documentary he did on Abraham Lincoln.

                      It was a battle of egos. Gates demanded the name and badge number of the cop when he was in his house. The cop didn't like his tone and blew him off. Gates gets more indignant.

                      Gates lost his temper and was a bit of an ass. The cops were stupid to arrest him, they could easily have walked away.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                        Gates lost his temper and was a bit of an ass. The cops were stupid to arrest him, they could easily have walked away.
                        And would you have the same attitude if Gates wasn't a famous black academic? If an average white guy had to force entry into his home, which isn't owned by him, and refused to talk to the police who responded to the call, then refused to properly identify himself, and continued arguing with the officers after he finally did identify himself, you would expect them to simply walk away?

                        Of course the charges have already been dropped thanks to the efforts of the good Reverend and his lawyer playing the biggest race card we've seen in some time. Must be nice to be black at times like these. Maybe Rodney King was just a "battle of egos" too. This should be a two way street, this battle of egos thing.
                        "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SkinBasket
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          Gates lost his temper and was a bit of an ass. The cops were stupid to arrest him, they could easily have walked away.
                          And would you have the same attitude if Gates wasn't a famous black academic? If an average white guy had to force entry into his home, which isn't owned by him, and refused to talk to the police who responded to the call, then refused to properly identify himself, and continued arguing with the officers after he finally did identify himself, you would expect them to simply walk away?

                          Of course the charges have already been dropped thanks to the efforts of the good Reverend and his lawyer playing the biggest race card we've seen in some time. Must be nice to be black at times like these. Maybe Rodney King was just a "battle of egos" too. This should be a two way street, this battle of egos thing.
                          Read the WP article before you start jumping to conclusions about what Gates did and didn't do. He says he did show two IDs and that the cop refused to provide his badge #. Then it turned into a pissing match. These are details but they do make a difference. Gates's perspective, as I'm sure you know, is that he got "preferential" treatment that no white man in his own home would be likely to experience. Sometimes it's hard to judge the merits of that claim if you weren't there when it happened. So why all the enthusiasm for piling on old Skip Gates?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by hoosier
                            Read the WP article before you start jumping to conclusions about what Gates did and didn't do. He says he did show two IDs and that the cop refused to provide his badge #. Then it turned into a pissing match. These are details but they do make a difference. Gates's perspective, as I'm sure you know, is that he got "preferential" treatment that no white man in his own home would be likely to experience. Sometimes it's hard to judge the merits of that claim if you weren't there when it happened. So why all the enthusiasm for piling on old Skip Gates?
                            What follows is Gates's first public account of his arrest. He spoke to The Post in an hour-long phone interview while resting on Martha's Vineyard. Gates is a founder of the Root.com, (www.theroot.com), a Web site owned by The Washington Post Co.
                            Tell me you're kidding.

                            The stories based off the police report and not written for the expressed benefit of spreading Mr. Gates' victim status as a "black man in America," have made it clear that he did not show identification initially, he does not own the home, and he was more interested in his racial diatribe than working with - or even responding to - the officers who responded to the call.

                            The claim that somehow the police would have left had they shown up and an unidentified, uncooperative, white man was standing in the house saying, "Yeah, this is my house. The door was stuck," is ridiculous and absurd.
                            "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SkinBasket
                              Originally posted by hoosier
                              Read the WP article before you start jumping to conclusions about what Gates did and didn't do. He says he did show two IDs and that the cop refused to provide his badge #. Then it turned into a pissing match. These are details but they do make a difference. Gates's perspective, as I'm sure you know, is that he got "preferential" treatment that no white man in his own home would be likely to experience. Sometimes it's hard to judge the merits of that claim if you weren't there when it happened. So why all the enthusiasm for piling on old Skip Gates?
                              What follows is Gates's first public account of his arrest. He spoke to The Post in an hour-long phone interview while resting on Martha's Vineyard. Gates is a founder of the Root.com, (www.theroot.com), a Web site owned by The Washington Post Co.
                              Tell me you're kidding.

                              The stories based off the police report and not written for the expressed benefit of spreading Mr. Gates' victim status as a "black man in America," have made it clear that he did not show identification initially, he does not own the home, and he was more interested in his racial diatribe than working with - or even responding to - the officers who responded to the call.

                              The claim that somehow the police would have left had they shown up and an unidentified, uncooperative, white man was standing in the house saying, "Yeah, this is my house. The door was stuck," is ridiculous and absurd.
                              What difference does it make if Gates or Harvard owns the house if he's the legal resident? You assume from the beginning that the arresting officer's report must be beyond question, just like you assume that whatever Gates says must be opportunism and self-promotion. Kind of hard to take your outrage seriously when that's your starting point.

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