Questions on Rape - continuing the Ben thread

[MJZiggy]

JH, if she was just leading him on and went along with it, how did she end up in the bathroom? And why did someone "put" her on the stool in the first place?

[Freak Out]

Why is the first thread in the GC, locked and with all the good shit still deleted?

[Scott Campbell]

Consent is the only parameter. Consent by adults in full control of their wits and senses.

They need to apply that one to marriage vows.

[MJZiggy]

Consent is the only parameter. Consent by adults in full control of their wits and senses.

They need to apply that one to marriage vows.

I thought they did. You've got 3 days to get out of it. If you're drunk that long, you have more than a marriage that needs your attention.

[CaptainKickass]

this woman bruises very easily, I can honestly say I never saw her without several bruises on her body.

Q: What do ya tell a woman with two black eyes?

A: Nothing...You already told her twice!



(And before anyone gets proverbial sand in their vagina's - this is just an old JOKE. Lighten the hell up people!)

[MJZiggy]

this woman bruises very easily, I can honestly say I never saw her without several bruises on her body.

Q: What do ya tell a woman with two black eyes?

A: Nothing...You already told her twice!



(And before anyone gets proverbial sand in their vagina's - this is just an old JOKE. Lighten the hell up people!)

You don't have to tell her anything as you're still recovering from the frying pan to the back of the head...

[Tarlam!]

this woman bruises very easily, I can honestly say I never saw her without several bruises on her body.

Q: What do ya tell a woman with two black eyes?

A: Nothing...You already told her twice!



(And before anyone gets proverbial sand in their vagina's - this is just an old JOKE. Lighten the hell up people!)

You don't have to tell her anything as you're still recovering from the frying pan to the back of the head...

I thought it was funny.

[Deputy Nutz]

No, Tar, I've never done anything like that. But agreeing to have sex and being raped are two different things. Guys can lie, sweet talk and pressure a girl to have sex the same way a girl can lie, seduce and dirty talk a married guy to have sex.

If the person ends up going along, even after initial objection, it's all that person fault. Married guy, buzzed girl. Don't put yourself in bad spots and it won't happen.

Huh?

she was twenty, drinking and being served illegally. I wasn't in the bathroom with Ben and this girl, so I can't tell you what happened. I can tell you what could have happened. She could have really felt wonderful that a professional QB, a famous athlete was interested in her. You can probably agree that it was a boost to her ego. Maybe she went with Ben because she did want to fool around, get his number, start a wonderful relationship with a famous QB, I don't think she thought it was too bad of a situation.

She most likely didn't want to have sex in a bathroom with him, since she did go to the cops. She could have had sex with him and then felt really bad about it afterwards and decided to fuck him over. Or Ben could have pinned her up against a urinal and penatrated her vagina with his penis as she scream "NO", he then could have covered her mouth with his hand.

Who knows about that. Regardless she was 20 and drunk and Ben should have used better judgement in the situation based on his status as the all-pro quarterback. His judgement is at the very least baffling. Her judgement in this situation is pretty understandable.

[Deputy Nutz]

Thanks for seeing that Tarlam. JH has shared some insights that are relevant on the topic.

I think I've read most of the stuff on this (at least everything posted here) but not sure what you are referring to by the DA's reaction? Did he make a statement or something?

There's another thread about the suspension that I posted in. Somewhat like JH, I think BR is a slime, and has done some awful things. But I also think punishing him for allegations is a very dangerous path.

OTOH maybe my one of my own experiences are colouring things. During my divorce proceedings, my STBX (soon to be ex) filed assault charges on me. I was picking some stuff up from the house, and the dog jumped on me. I was not in the mood, and shoved the dog away. She came running across the yard screaming at me, and grabbed me by the neck. I told her to fuck off, and shoved her. She did the full ten point dive into the garden, and had 911 dialed before she hit the ground. Came up bruised and dirty. As an aside, this woman bruises very easily, I can honestly say I never saw her without several bruises on her body. I, on the other hand, don't bruise at all, so I had no marks.

Cops show up, and I spend 6-8h in a cell.

Well I think it was proper to suspend him. Two off-season and two rape allegations, looks bad not only on Rothisberger, but also the Steelers and the league. Ben keeps putting himself in situations that are a effecting his job status.

[SkinBasket]

Maybe she should have played some iron curtain defense.

[CaptainKickass]

Maybe she should have played some iron curtain defense.

[CaptainKickass]

this woman bruises very easily, I can honestly say I never saw her without several bruises on her body.

Q: What do ya tell a woman with two black eyes?

A: Nothing...You already told her twice!



(And before anyone gets proverbial sand in their vagina's - this is just an old JOKE. Lighten the hell up people!)

You don't have to tell her anything as you're still recovering from the frying pan to the back of the head...

I can handle the el cheapo frying pans - all the way up to the super-mega-ultra teflon/non-stick ones.

It's the damn cast iron that gets me. That shit'll kill a guy.

[Joemailman]

Maybe she should have played some iron curtain defense.

I don't know. Ben's always been pretty good at moving the chains.

[Freak Out]

Maybe she should have played some iron curtain defense.

I don't know. Ben's always been pretty good at moving the chains.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't know. Ben's always been pretty good at moving the chains.

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