WORLD CUP

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add mexico to the list of teams that have been screwed over by a horrible call

side judge was clearly not paying attention to the game on the tevez goal

[wootah]

It must be driving Ireland crazy to be sitting at home while England and France disappoint. Can someone explain to me how the qualifying works? How do you end up with 2 Korean teams (North Korea was terrible), and yet Ireland had to play a qualifying match with France?

You have a federation by part of the world; uefa in europe, CAF in africa... Qualifications happen by federation, uefa has X teams which can qualify, CAF has Y teams. in Europe teams are divided in groups (after lottery), the first of each group qualifies directly. The best nr.2's decide in 2 games who also goes. That's pretty much how it happens.

Man, this is a black day for soccer today. I've never seen so many mistakes in such a short time at the highest level. I think soccer will change in the future. Camera's will be allowed, this cannot continue like this. Sunday 27th of June 2010 will be the day that soccer changed for good.

[Joemailman]

That was an incredible kick on Argentina's 3rd goal. Unstoppable. Hopefully, we'll see more of that instead of bad calls that have understandably been such a topic of discussion.

Should be a great match between Argentina and Germany.

[wootah]

That was an incredible kick on Argentina's 3rd goal. Unstoppable. Hopefully, we'll see more of that instead of bad calls that have understandably been such a topic of discussion.

Hernandez followed your advice

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Man, this is a black day for soccer today. I've never seen so many mistakes in such a short time at the highest level. I think soccer will change in the future. Camera's will be allowed, this cannot continue like this. Sunday 27th of June 2010 will be the day that soccer changed for good.

soccer has embraced technology in almost every way possible. we have balls that change all the time that refuse to fly straight, shoes designed to put maximum spin on balls, jerseys that are now body suites. magic spray that cures anything from a little bump to AIDS. Clubs tearing down their classic stadiums to build big massive modern monstrosities with all the fancy technological bells and whistles. our broadcasts have mikes down on the pitch so we can hear everything, and 1,000 HD cameras so we can catch every slice a grass that flies into the air.

technology is everywhere in soccer, except for when it could help the officials

the officials are there to make sure teams play by the rules and its all fair and on the level. we have the technology to help that aspect of the game. my god, use it

with all the eyes of the world watching and being able to see every missed call, its only a matter of time before disgruntled fans take out their frustrations on a ref that costs their team a huge match

[Freak Out]

Man, this is a black day for soccer today. I've never seen so many mistakes in such a short time at the highest level. I think soccer will change in the future. Camera's will be allowed, this cannot continue like this. Sunday 27th of June 2010 will be the day that soccer changed for good.

soccer has embraced technology in almost every way possible. we have balls that change all the time that refuse to fly straight, shoes designed to put maximum spin on balls, jerseys that are now body suites. magic spray that cures anything from a little bump to AIDS. Clubs tearing down their classic stadiums to build big massive modern monstrosities with all the fancy technological bells and whistles. our broadcasts have mikes down on the pitch so we can hear everything, and 1,000 HD cameras so we can catch every slice a grass that flies into the air.

technology is everywhere in soccer, except for when it could help the officials

the officials are there to make sure teams play by the rules and its all fair and on the level. we have the technology to help that aspect of the game. my god, use it

with all the eyes of the world watching and being able to see every missed call, its only a matter of time before disgruntled fans take out their frustrations on a ref that costs their team a huge match

It's pretty crazy that in the times we live in and all the technology available to the individual let alone an origination like FIFA and they refuse to use it to make the game better. The broadcaster shows every mistake in glaring detail but they still refuse to change. There are ways to do it that won't slow down the game and make for a better sport.

[Joemailman]

In a sport where 2 goals is enough to win most games, and 3 goals is an offensive explosion, to have goals allowed/disallowed because of an obvious official error is really damaging to the sport. They better hope there aren't any major blown calls in the final game in 2 weeks. Then again, maybe that's what it will take for FIFA to see the light,

[wootah]

I'm curious on how the FIFA is going to handle this. Just saying that they need technological help is very general; only for goalline cases? Or also offsides? Or all fouls? How do you stop the game then? What in the case of the USA - Slovenia where the ref whistled and then within the next seconds USA scores?

On what level are you going to add it? Just World Cups or also all national competitions? Who pays the cost of the equipment? Not that easy...

Last season the UEFA experimented with adding 2 refs; one next/behind each goal. Yesterday I heard that this would be also used in the Champions League next season.

[Gunakor]

How do you stop the game then?

By blowing the damn whistle. Same way NFL or NBA officials would stop the game to make sure they get the call right.

Replay has a place in EVERY sport whose officials rely on eyesight alone. At EVERY level. The human eye is simply unreliable in real time, and it's much more important IMO to have near perfect officiating than it is to finish a game in a timely manner. That's true whether you're playing for your middle school or playing for the US National team. To do otherwise is incredibly unfair to the players who put so much into the game.

[wootah]

How do you stop the game then?

it's much more important IMO to have near perfect officiating than it is to finish a game in a timely manner.

They once experimented stopping the clock in soccer for every free kick, throw in, etcetera somewhere in the late '90s. They are still playing the second half as we speak, I believe.

Adding such a infrastructure for all level teams is impossible. You cannot expect all teams in all divisions to have that financial power, nor personel able to use it. That's not realistic.

What for fouls in the box? The foul is by definition an interpretation of the ref since a lot of it depends on the intention of the players, so it's a bit simplistic to think camera's would solve all. I agree with goal line situations like in England yesterday, because it's very obvious, but the others are a bit trickier than you might think.

[Gunakor]

Adding such a infrastructure for all level teams is impossible. You cannot expect all teams in all divisions to have that financial power, nor personel able to use it. That's not realistic.

What for fouls in the box? The foul is by definition an interpretation of the ref since a lot of it depends on the intention of the players, so it's a bit simplistic to think camera's would solve all. I agree with goal line situations like in England yesterday, because it's very obvious, but the others are a bit trickier than you might think.

A $200 digital video recorder from Best Buy is far more reliable than the human eye is, especially in real time. And any soccer mom be trained to use one for the price of a couple tickets to the game. Video technology is not expensive, so there isn't a whole lot of financial power required. The point is to get it right, not to get it right in High Definition.

Besides, most professional clubs play in front of TV cameras anyway. Use that feed. You've just eliminated the need for private video equipment and privately trained people to use it. The local and/or national media will provide that just by doing their own jobs at no added expense to the club. The advertising will pay for it. It can be done.

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i think you do the replay for all top division, they can afford it, uefa games, and of course the world cup

first off you bring in the balls with the chips in them to let refs know when there's a goal. i guess this technology is already here. use the feeds from the tv cameras and have an extra ref that watches a bank of screens, if he sees something he can buzz the ref, or send down a video to some form of hand held device.

there's nothing you can do about fouls called in the box, those are what they are. but they should be able to review a goal like tevez had where is was clearly off sides, or the american goal that was taken away for off sides that clearly was not.

just like in american football, if the whistle blows the play is dead. if a guy is called off sides and the whistle blows, everyone stops, and he kicks in into the goal. then that you couldn't review. i guess i'm saying you can take a goal away but not give one

also i would love if they were able to see a replay of some of these flops and then punish the flopper. like when keita ran into the back of kaka and acted like kaka elbowed him in the face drawing a second yellow. a quick review of a few seconds would show the ref that nothing happened. then you give keita a red. that might stop some of the flopping and theatrics.


fifa has come out today and said the only mistake that was made on the tevez no call, was that the replay was shown in the stadium, showing all the fans that the ref screwed up. what a joke

fifa is just killing themselves in this world cup. i bet they managed to turn off more fans to the game then they've managed to gain. at least i know they have in the US

[wootah]

The problem with your proposal, Red, is that the goal against Slovenia didn't count either with those rules. So even that way, it's not fail safe.

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The problem with your proposal, Red, is that the goal against Slovenia didn't count either with those rules. So even that way, it's not fail safe.

was that the offsides? in cases like that you would have to tell the refs to let the play finish if there is any question on an offsides. if there is a goal, then you review it. if it was offsides then you take the goal away. if he was on, it stands.

the big question will be what can be reviewed and what can't. and instant replay isn't going to fix everything, but correction some mistakes is better then not fixing any

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brazil started their tournament today. WOW

when their on, nobody 's going to beat them.

just a thing of beauty to watch play