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How is that not over the top? Walt Disney might not be over the top, but edison and ford?Originally posted by mraynrand View PostDon't get carried away! I don't think comparing him with Ford or Edison was too over the top, but greatest CEO ever? Nah. How about Rockefeller and Sam Insull, or that bastard Marconi? Sam Insull is a great American story - his achievements and subsequent demise is a Randian tale and is exactly what the 'protestors' on Wall Street wish for all those 'corrupt capitalists.' To eat out their own innards. Sreve Jobs at least avoided that fate and demonization.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Jobs revolutionized the way we access computers, music, and phone service. That's pretty significant. Maybe Edison goes to far - that guy was unreal. His inventive creativity knew no bounds. I'll concede that one. But Ford? The innovation seems similar. Ford didn't make the car, he changed how it was made to make it more accessible to all. Changed business model in some ways to the good of his workers in other ways, kinda nutty. Similar to Jobs it seems. Disney was entertainment only.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostHow is that not over the top? Walt Disney might not be over the top, but edison and ford?"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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"If you use a computer or smartphone today, it is either one he created, or an imitation of his genius." - Gizmodo
"He changed the way movies are made, the way music is sold, the way stories are told, the very way we interact with the world around us. He helped us work, and gave us new ways to play. He was a myth made man." - Gizmodo
Great read.
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Yes Jobs created a mass market for PC's, GUI's, and a bunch of entertainment stuff that nobody needs.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostJobs revolutionized the way we access computers, music, and phone service. That's pretty significant. Maybe Edison goes to far - that guy was unreal. His inventive creativity knew no bounds. I'll concede that one. But Ford? The innovation seems similar. Ford didn't make the car, he changed how it was made to make it more accessible to all. Changed business model in some ways to the good of his workers in other ways, kinda nutty. Similar to Jobs it seems. Disney was entertainment only.
Henry Ford created the mass market itself by his invention of the assembly line. That coupled with numerous landmark business innovations. Plus you want to compare the mass marketing of cars to the mass marketing of mp3 players? Jobs was a much nicer guy but he never had a chance at being the historical figure that Ford is.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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With all do respect to a great CEO, he was very innovative and had a great vision, but top 10, hell even top 100 in history? No. But he was great.All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.
George Orwell
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Jobs is probably not a nicer guy. He's very personable outside the office but ruthless in it. Jobs revolutionized computers. For what most people do today, a computer is far more essential than a car.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostYes Jobs created a mass market for PC's, GUI's, and a bunch of entertainment stuff that nobody needs.
Henry Ford created the mass market itself by his invention of the assembly line. That coupled with numerous landmark business innovations. Plus you want to compare the mass marketing of cars to the mass marketing of mp3 players? Jobs was a much nicer guy but he never had a chance at being the historical figure that Ford is.
He took a company from the no where when the competition was fierce and made them the biggest in the world. Had Jobs stayed the the entire time, how big would they be? Microsoft had all the money in the world and the platform to dominate the consumer electronic space. Michael Dell said he'd shut down Apple. They were the laughing stock. Well, who's laughing now? Ballmer is considered completely inadequate, and Michael Dells company is worthless compared to Apple.
No one in the world can shape a market like Jobs. An Exampkle: He didn't even do any market research for the iPad because he doesn't believe that a consumer should have to know what they want. You know what? He was absolutely right.
Someone else would have created the car if not for Henry Ford. Would anyone else have come up with computing design the way that Steve has? The evidence points to no since everyone copies exactly what his company does. There has been very little innovation in user experience that Apple hasn't constructed. Meanwhile, Ford makes decent cars but certainly are not market leaders and are not followed by everyone else.
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Good post, P, but to be fair, Ford didn't just invent the car. He invented the assembly line model of manufacturing. Think about that for a second as to how it applies to this discussion. No. Wait. Think about it. Really."Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings
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Ford didn't invent the carOriginally posted by MJZiggy View PostGood post, P, but to be fair, Ford didn't just invent the car. He invented the assembly line model of manufacturing. Think about that for a second as to how it applies to this discussion. No. Wait. Think about it. Really."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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