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  • Originally posted by Partial View Post
    Damn those analysts. Who needs 'em when we have Ziggy, a person without any money or knowledge of investing giving us advice!



    Apple has something that you can't put a price on. They have the cool factor. Everything they do is cool, from the bleeding edge designs (who wants to be a have a boring beige box as a reflection of themselves), to incredible marketing (while every other company is talking about flash, and how much it's better than the iPhone, Apple talks about features because the leader is looking forward, not playing catch-up), to simply incredible stores (is there ever an Apple store that isn't just beautiful and cool? How much better would life be if every retail store was as pleasant of an experience?? My life would be immeasurably better).

    Android will never be cool, there is nothing sexy/risky/dangerous/unique about the design, and nothing fast/fluid/interesting about the software. It's not fashionable, it's quite the opposite, as most people think it's the smartphone for nerds. Meanwhile, Apple has created the smartphone for human beings. It's fashionable, extremely user friendly, they've created an incredible infrastructure to support it, etc.


    Oooo, just stumbled across this. Time to buy another 20k of stock. China = Apple's next cash cow

    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...te_iphone.html
    Who said I have no money?? Maybe you should try a source that doesn't come from Apple. Just a thought. Obviously you didn't read the article I posted from MSN Money about the "cool factor" wearing off among younger users. Gloria Vanderbilt jeans were cool once too... But it's ok. Don't listen or consider that it's more people than just me trying to drill into that thick skull of yours. Don't exercise caution. And definitely don't run out and get an iPhone. That's too much for you to pay. Yep more stock because it's guaranteed to go up. And I'm the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about?
    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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    • Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
      Gloria Vanderbilt jeans were cool once too...

      Maybe for Harlan.

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      • Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
        Who said I have no money?? Maybe you should try a source that doesn't come from Apple. Just a thought. Obviously you didn't read the article I posted from MSN Money about the "cool factor" wearing off among younger users. Gloria Vanderbilt jeans were cool once too... But it's ok. Don't listen or consider that it's more people than just me trying to drill into that thick skull of yours. Don't exercise caution. And definitely don't run out and get an iPhone. That's too much for you to pay. Yep more stock because it's guaranteed to go up. And I'm the one who doesn't know what I'm talking about?
        Well, lets see, you didn't have a job for years and you talk about how you don't know anything about investing.

        A site that is dedicated to articles about Apple's stock and analysts opinion/quotes/articles about it is from Apple? Sheesh. Sigh. My goodness.

        I did read your article. I vehemently disagree with it. So do sales numbers. Just you watch, Apple is going to suffocate Android in the next few months. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.

        It's not guaranteed to go up. It's a very safe bet that it will. It's a calculated risk.
        Last edited by Partial; 09-15-2011, 05:05 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Scott Campbell View Post
          So did leisure suits.
          The difference is Apple changes with time and stays cool. Remember when they first came out with the iMac? Cool. Do you remember when they came out with the titanium sex notebooks? I sure do, because they were cool. Do you remember when they came out with the first unibody notebooks? Yep, we all sure do. What about the new MacBook Air? Yep, everyone is in shock over how thin and gorgeous it is. Do you remember when they came out with the first iPhone? Yep, you sure do. Does anyone remember the first HP or Dell on the market? What about the first Android phone? Can anyone name it without Googling it? I can, but can most people? The answer, which is pure speculation on my part, is No.

          Apple is cool, and for the next 3-4 years will remain cool as long as they follow the plan that Steve and Jon Ive have in place. I think they'll still know what cool is as long as Jon is there.

          There is a fundamental difference in the way products are designed that makes them great. Apple pushes the limits of technology and has a vision of how software should integrate with ones life and devices. The others are responding after the fact and polling for user feedback rather than having their own vision.

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          • Originally posted by Partial View Post
            Well, lets see, you didn't have a job for years and you talk about how you don't know anything about investing.

            A site that is dedicated to articles about Apple's stock and analysts opinion/quotes/articles about it is from Apple? Sheesh.

            I did read your article. I vehemently disagree with it. So do sales numbers. Just you watch, Apple is going to suffocate Android in the next few months. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it.

            It's not guaranteed to go up. It's a very safe bet that it will. It's a calculated risk.
            How exactly does that equate to not having money???

            Sales numbers are indicative of the past. If those indications are correct and they are based on information from Pew Research, then the current sales numbers mean nothing as the future trend among Apple's largest future market is not good. I think you already have bet your bottom dollar on it...
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
              But it's ok. Don't listen or consider that it's more people than just me trying to drill into that thick skull of yours. Don't exercise caution.
              .........and seriously hurting yourself doing squats past 90 degrees.

              OOPS, wrong thread. Sorry.

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              • Originally posted by Partial View Post
                Do you remember when they came out with the first iPhone? Yep, you sure do.

                Really???

                I remember what I was doing when the planes hit the twin towers. I can't even remember which year the first iPhone came out.

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                • Originally posted by Partial View Post
                  The difference is Apple changes with time and stays cool. Remember when they first came out with the iMac? Cool. Do you remember when they came out with the titanium sex notebooks? I sure do, because they were cool. Do you remember when they came out with the first unibody notebooks? Yep, we all sure do. What about the new MacBook Air? Yep, everyone is in shock over how thin and gorgeous it is. Do you remember when they came out with the first iPhone? Yep, you sure do.
                  You need to get out more. I don't even know what most of that stuff is, much less when it came out. What the fuck is a titanium sex notebook? MacBook Air? Seriously? I immediately imagine LeVar Burton dunking on a 5 foot rim over a copy of some PBS sponsored book about some kid's 3 dads.
                  "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                  • Originally posted by MJZiggy View Post
                    How exactly does that equate to not having money???

                    Sales numbers are indicative of the past. If those indications are correct and they are based on information from Pew Research, then the current sales numbers mean nothing as the future trend among Apple's largest future market is not good. I think you already have bet your bottom dollar on it...
                    Quarterly sales numbers, estimates for the future quarters, and updates from supply chain sources are indicative of the current.

                    The iPhone will continue to be the best selling smart phone for a few more years at least. You can bet your bottom dollar on that one.

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                    • Originally posted by Partial View Post
                      You can bet your bottom dollar on that one.
                      I use the FIFO accounting practice when it comes to my money. My bottom dollar is constantly changing.

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                      • Originally posted by Partial View Post
                        The difference is Apple changes with time and stays cool. Remember when they first came out with the iMac? Cool. Do you remember when they came out with the titanium sex notebooks? I sure do, because they were cool. Do you remember when they came out with the first unibody notebooks? Yep, we all sure do. What about the new MacBook Air? Yep, everyone is in shock over how thin and gorgeous it is. Do you remember when they came out with the first iPhone? Yep, you sure do. Does anyone remember the first HP or Dell on the market? What about the first Android phone? Can anyone name it without Googling it? I can, but can most people? The answer, which is pure speculation on my part, is No.

                        Apple is cool, and for the next 3-4 years will remain cool as long as they follow the plan that Steve and Jon Ive have in place. I think they'll still know what cool is as long as Jon is there.

                        There is a fundamental difference in the way products are designed that makes them great. Apple pushes the limits of technology and has a vision of how software should integrate with ones life and devices. The others are responding after the fact and polling for user feedback rather than having their own vision.


                        I have no idea when any of those came out, I just know people make fun of the hipsters who think there cool.
                        This goes back to my cyclical comment, where is apple on its cycle? It is looking like it maybe approaching another down swing.


                        So talking about investing, long on canola is a good bet that lloks to be getting better, owning gold in euro's is still very very safe, not so safe in us$ terms. Other precious metals look to be reching some inflection points so watch out.
                        Non-renewable energy should be making healthy gains in about 1 - 2 months and hold those gains for the forseeable future. If you are into financials, go with canadian or australian for the safe bet. Does that help GrnBay007.
                        Also I will qualify this with the good old TMQ wARNING, ALL PREDICTIONS WRONG OR YOU MONEY BACK.
                        All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

                        George Orwell

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                        • Originally posted by Upnorth View Post
                          Where is apple on its cycle? It is looking like it maybe approaching another down swing.
                          Apple's cycles are just beginning. The iPad is still a new product, despite being a huge product. Recall this has only been out, what, 17 months now? It's still a baby. The iPhone is also not going anywhere anytime soon. It's just so far ahead of the competition in user experience.

                          Analyst Mark Moskowitz with J.P. Morgan


                          "In our view, Apple should be in no rush," he said. "The other tablet entrants have stumbled so far, and that trend-line could persist deep into 2012."
                          But Apple should be in no rush to grow the iPad lineup, in Moskowitz's view, as competitors like Motorola and Research in Motion have disappointed with their own competing offerings. RIM announced on Thursday that it has shipped just 200,000 PlayBooks, far less than the 9.25 million iPads Apple sold in its most recent quarter.

                          Moskowitz believes the next tablet to stumble will come from Sony, which recently demoed new hardware. The analyst said he was not impressed by what he saw.

                          "To us, Sony's tablet lacks the refined, sleek feel of the iPad and its bezel-like back is not user-friendly," he wrote in a note to investors. "Lastly, the sony tablet runs on the Android O/S, which has failed to garner as much interest in tablets as it has in smartphones."
                          "Amazon's Kindle may not be a harbinger of the company's future success in tablets, in our view," he said. "Until we see how Amazon fares, we think the next potential threat to Apple's tablet dominance is not until late 2012 when Windows 8-based tablets could hit the market."

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                          • Brian White with Ticonderoga Securities


                            As RIM begins to ramp-up availability of devices running its new BlackBerry 7 mobile operating system, Apple is expected to hold an event in the coming weeks to announce its fifth-generation iPhone. That next iPhone, in the eyes of analyst Brian White with Ticonderoga Securities, will "steamroll" RIM's BlackBerry 7 lineup.

                            White said RIM's BlackBerry fresh was simply too little, too late, and the Canadian company's struggles will only add to Apple's momentum. He sees that momentum going "off the charts" in October, when Apple's so-called "iPhone 5" is expected to debut.

                            As for RIM's PlayBook, White sees the touchscreen tablet following in the footsteps of HP's TouchPad with a potential discontinuation. He said the PlayBook is poised to be the "next casualty of iPad's tablet dominance."

                            RIM announced on Thursday that it shipped 10.6 million BlackBerry phones and 200,000 PlayBooks in the previous quarter. Its profits were down 47 percent year over year, and sales came in well below Wall Street estimates.

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                            • That cheese pizza I ate last night came out really stringy. I don't think it was worth the 4.99 I spent on it.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                                That cheese pizza I ate last night came out really stringy. I don't think it was worth the 4.99 I spent on it.
                                You have to order Armand's. It's a truly awesome pizza experience and will soon be dominating the pizza market. Their website says so.
                                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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