I've been reading again

[George Cumby]

"Choke" by Palahniuk. A bit more twisted than Fight Club.

"World War Z". Max Bloom. The gold standard of Zombie Apocalypse fiction.

"The Road", Cormac McCarthy. If you want to feel like you've been in a fight every time you pick up the book.

"The Terror", Dan Simmons. Really hard to put down. Great character study and blend of genres.

"War". Sebastian Junger does the 'Stan.

"Three Day Road", Joseph Boyden. UpNorth and our other Canadian friends might appreciate this one. Canadian Indian goes to the trenches in WWI and comes back all fucked up.

"Gates of Fire", Steven Pressfield. A must read for any in the warrior class or those wanting to understand the warrior class.

"Born to Run", Christorpher MacDougal. Ditch those running shoes.

"Why We Run", Bernd Heinrich. No shit, we can run down a deer.

Got to the fourth book in the Thrones, saga. Had to put the series down out of a sense of guilt. Too much other reading to do.

[SkinBasket]

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to look into this guns germs and steel stuff, and some of the non-running books from George.

I read World War Z a long time ago and thought it sucked monkey butthole. That was later confirmed when I saw it had become a Brad Pitt Hollywood project. It took a very popular genre that was still languishing in the confines of the readership of nerdy young men and survivalists, and turned it into a more widely accessible, but also much more boring, meandering through highly recognizable zombie territory. I could forgive the former if the story had evolved the genre at all, but it didn't, instead relying on all the old standards and making for a poor representation to the larger market. But, like a lot of other folks with very limited options at the airport, I fell for the sexy cover and the promise of zombies, so paint me just as guilty for its "success."

Nutz gave me a zombie book afterward. So I read it and it was better, if not just a touch more juvenile in style, but much more interesting. So I read the second book, and was ready for the 3rd. Look it up on Amazon, and find out the author was totally and completely dead. Thanks nutz. At least he left some notes behind, so someone else is going to finish the series with the blessing of the late Z.A. Recht. The books are called the Morningstar Saga. Also, this other series, Day by Day Armageddon, is just as entertaining, but not without it's own narrative issues. Nutz might have given me that one too, or maybe I just saw it at the back of the other one. Either way, if you're looking for zombie fiction, I would go to either of those again before I would ever pick World War Z back up.

[Deputy Nutz]

I just finished the Hunger Game series. Pretty good, and I know it is found in the teen section, but it isn't really written for teens. It has a lot of adult content.

James Wesley Rawles came out with a new book taking place at the same time as his first work of fiction "Patriots". This one is called "Survivors". It is about the economic collaspe of the US and how to survive. I have only read a small sample but it is good. If you like fiction like this he is one of the better writers in the genre.

Also read "One Second After", same situation about an EMP attack of the United States, but this one is pretty sad a lot of people die, a horror story of what would happen if the grid shuts down. A bit over blown in terms of the effect of an EMP attack.

[SkinBasket]

Hunger Games is no more adult than the Moon books with vampires and werewolfs and crack whores with "throbbing holes." That being said, I did read all three books, whereas I couldn't make it through the second vampire book.

I am reading Survivors now. It's okay. A little sparse and disjointed with no real opportunity to care about the characters. But it passes time. I did just order Forrest Griffins book based off the first few pages, so that'll be next.

Before I tell you how the world will end, there are some things that you
need to do to prepare yourself. Since you are currently reading a book on
the apocalypse written by a professional fi ghter who’s suffered some pretty
serious head trauma, I’m assuming that you have some mental impairments
of your own. You’re not a full-blown moron, but you have trouble
with simple things like walking without tripping, wiping your butt, counting,
and, most importantly, reading. I will not judge you because I am well
versed in moron, and we’re in this together. However, it is quite possible
that it will take you several years to read this book from start to finish,
making it important that we start your training before I supply you with
the various end-of-the-world scenarios and tell you what to expect. Just
trust me that all this stuff will come in handy.

[Upnorth]

Mister B. Gone by clive barker
The Screw Tape Letters by c s lewis

Both have demon themes that aren't teen friendly and very good reads.

[Deputy Nutz]

I read Forest Griffins book and it was fucking funny, really fucking funny. I don't know if it will save your life, but at least you will have something interesting to read when the "Shit goes Down!"

[Deputy Nutz]

I read Patriots several times because it was informative on prepping, but I totally agree with SB about character development, and the fact that they had everything they needed, but it didn't make mention on how much all of their shit actually cost, and how long it would take to accumulate it all. It seemed to all come too easy to them.

[sooner6600]

Just got done with the Fourth Procedure.
Thrilling novel over 500 pages; Ziggy would just love it.

Row vs Wade with a Supreme being pregnitized by his surgeon.

veritas

[SkinBasket]

Mister B. Gone by clive barker

I used to read Clive Barker in grade school on the bus. Some people thought I was a nerd. Anyway, it's been hard to return to his work since puberty, but that's more of a me thing. That, and I was never really that interested in the whole spy super agent whatever genre. I think the last one I read was about a ship frozen in an iceberg. Oh, nevermind, that was Clive Cussler. Who the fuck is Clive barker?

[Upnorth]

A lot of his work is in the horror genre. This one is as well. Not scary but creepy.

[SkinBasket]

I'm finally almost done with with Survivor book, and I'll never forgive nutz for it. It's just a guy with poor writing skills showing off all the stuff he knows about random survivalist/military/foreign culture topics and adding made up names next to them followed by "thought," "remembered," or "knew." It is terrible. I might send the author hand written hate mail, it's so bad.

[Deputy Nutz]

Did you learn anything? I wasn't suggesting reading material for your college lit class. Sometimes you can be pretty uptight.

[SkinBasket]

So I finished it. The only "story" is the last 10 pages. Then there's no ending. The 330 page lead-up wasn't really worth it.

I wouldn't say I learned anything because, as you pointed out, it seems everyone just happens to have the items they need. The brothers are an excellent representation of wikipedia. They know everything, and talk about it like a textbook with reckless abandon to anyone they meet. I think there were other characters, but basically the only thing they accomplished, outside of providing the author a one dimensional placard to spew his marginally useful vomit of information, was to open a store or walk from one place to another.

The only useful info boiled down to: own a gun, ammunition, magazines, and lots of silver and gold. Maybe some batteries and seeds if you want to be a farmer. The rest involved making things that most people would blow themselves up in under 2 minutes trying to make.

[Deputy Nutz]

That pretty much sums it up. Nice Job!

[George Cumby]

The only useful info boiled down to: own a gun, ammunition, magazines, and lots of silver and gold. Maybe some batteries and seeds if you want to be a farmer.

"... a gun"? Fuck that, should the apocalypse come, you'll want three guns, maybe four. A reliable hand-gun, something you can reach out and touch someone with and a shotgun. As a luxury, a .223.

What about some goats? Meat and milk on the hoof. Lots of tools. What about a horse? Back in the day, no-one fucked with the cavalry.

Shit, if a brain-dead retard like griffith can write a book, so should I.