Lance Armstrong

[mmmdk]

Lance is going to Oprah to tell his story. Oh boy, here comes the sobbing.

It'll be interesting!

[mmmdk]

what a joke of a sport. you have juicers, and guys that bitch about the juicers because they haven't been caught yet

its like baseball and bowling, the whole damn sport is crooked and roided up

At least the NFL is pure as driven snow!

[Freak Out]

Lance is going come clean.

[Kiwon]

Okay......burst my bubble.

Is Lance Armstrong really guilty? So in the midst of years of continuous testing, he was doping undetected?

I can take that Santa isn't real or Dorothy never left Kansas or Peter Pan did grow up, but........Lance Armstrong, a cheater?

He's a hero, right?

No, it turns out that he's probably the biggest liar in modern sports history....the Bernie Madoff of sports. (or was Madoff the 'Lance Armstrong' of finance?)

I admired the guy. I wanted his story to be true.

But what about the millions across the globe, especially cancer patients, that worshiped the guy and found inspiration from him?

I know its complicated and he did some good things, but I wonder if he can grasp the damage he's done?

Parents, hold this guy up as a lesson about lying because Lance Armstrong is a poster boy. One lie leads to another, leads to another, and it snowballs from there.

As Armstrong 'defended' himself with phony denials, he disparaged so many, attacked their reputations publicly....

Wow, I'd say, he just owes about half the globe an apology......even Oprah can't help him now.

[wootah]

Reports say he will fully admit using doping and will testify against the UCI and the officials that helped him cover it up. But not his fellow cyclists.

It seems that if Lance is going down, he's taking the big guys with him.

[Kiwon]

Reports say he will fully admit using doping and will testify against the UCI and the officials that helped him cover it up. But not his fellow cyclists.

It seems that if Lance is going down, he's taking the big guys with him.

Now, I'm a cynic. What good will it do? So many riders were willing to cheat. They will find another way.

They should just drop the pretense and have a cheaters race. The guys still have to ride the miles. Everybody knows that pro wrestling is fake but the fans still flock to it.

[wootah]

Now, I'm a cynic. What good will it do? So many riders were willing to cheat. They will find another way.

They should just drop the pretense and have a cheaters race. The guys still have to ride the miles. Everybody knows that pro wrestling is fake but the fans still flock to it.

If the doping rules for the NFL were as strict as they are for cycling, the Packers would probably have to contact us to have a 47 man squad on Sundays.

Besides cleaning house in the highest administration circle of cycling, this might also defer the attention from Lance a bit. Who knows, maybe he'll be able to sell it as if he changed his ways and now wants to make up for his mistakes by trying to clean the sport? By admitting he'll lose some money he gained over the years, but it might bring in some new funds as well as a guest speaker again. At the moment, without admitting, he's a paria: no one wants to be associated with him. Afterwards there will be people who will admire his 'courage' again and he will probably be accepted by most.

I wonder what will happen with his testimonies under oath where he said he never used doping.

[Kiwon]

By admitting he'll lose some money he gained over the years, but it might bring in some new funds as well as a guest speaker again. At the moment, without admitting, he's a paria: no one wants to be associated with him. Afterwards there will be people who will admire his 'courage' again and he will probably be accepted by most.

I wonder what will happen with his testimonies under oath where he said he never used doping.

The guy's going to be in court the next few years. He's got several civil suits that will go forward against him.

2.5 hours of sob stories with Oprah isn't going to help him much. It will raise more questions than answers and critics will come out of the woodworks to vindicate themselves and savage him.

If I were a paid advisor, I would tell him that his best hope for winning back public support right now is to come out as gay. Blame his troubles on struggling with his sexuality and he'll immediately gain back some solid supporters and shield himself from some criticism in the MSM. Yeah, it's cynical and yes, I am being serious.

[wootah]

Hahaha, you are also insane "Come out as gay" as paid advise... The guy has 2 children with his current girlfriend. Don't quit your regular job, Kiwon.

[mraynrand]

Come out as gay" as paid advise... The guy has 2 children with his current girlfriend.

That's just a crafty cover for his gay sex life. Just ask Malcolm Stevenson Forbes Sr.

[Kiwon]

Hahaha, you are also insane "Come out as gay" as paid advise... The guy has 2 children with his current girlfriend. Don't quit your regular job, Kiwon.

That would be 'advice' in 'Merican English. 'c' not 's'

I thought Europeans were supposed to be sophisticated; 'LGBT' is golden these days, especially the hetero to 'fabulous' journey narrative.

Not to go all FYI on you (because Mad doesn't allow semi-auto politics in RR).....

Ever heard of Jim McGreevey, Governor Jim McGreevey, twice-married with two kids Governor Jim McGreevey who had anonymous gay sex in truck stops, rest stops, woods over all New Jersey?

Well, he's one of many celebs to "come out" in grand fashion, complete with a press conference and a classic line, "My truth is that I am a gay American" "I, me, my" vs. society's expectations of a father and husband who just happens to be the chief executive of a state (even if said state is New Jersey ). The end of the line you say?.....au contraire, my French-speaking friend, just another career opportunity for the ambitious.

From the McGreevey's book teaser:

"In August 2004, Governor James E. McGreevey of New Jersey made history when he stepped before microphones, declared "My truth is that I am a gay American," and announced his resignation. The story made international headlines—but what led to that moment was a human and political drama more complex and fascinating than anyone knew. Now, in this extraordinarily candid memoir, McGreevey shares his story of a life of ambition, moral compromise, and redemption."



Lance, just tell the world that sex with Sheryl Crow made you seriously question your heterosexuality and people will start to empathize and believe in you again.... (HA!...can you tell it's 5am now? Sleep deprivation)

[MJZiggy]

I believe the difference is that McGreevey actually had gay sex before coming out in a major press release.

What I want to know is what his motivation for admitting all of this now. Had he stuck to his story, the issue always would have been an asterisk, but would have eventually drifted away like some of the baseball players who did it. Why take a flying leap in the spotlight (and not in a good way) no one ever could completely pin doping on him regardless of how they tried. So why do it and why do it now?

[Kiwon]

I believe the difference is that McGreevey actually had gay sex before coming out in a major press release.

Details, details..........

What I want to know is what his motivation for admitting all of this now. Had he stuck to his story, the issue always would have been an asterisk, but would have eventually drifted away like some of the baseball players who did it. Why take a flying leap in the spotlight (and not in a good way) no one ever could completely pin doping on him regardless of how they tried. So why do it and why do it now?

Ego, probably. Guilty conscience, maybe. Image rehabilitation and future endorsement hopes, DEFINITELY.

This interview could be one of the biggest legal FAILS in history.....
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U.S. Postal Service Spent Nearly $40 Million Sponsoring Armstrong's Cycling Teams

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/01/15/Lance-Postal-Team-Money

Justice Dept. May Sue Armstrong, Cycling Team Owners for Fraud

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Sports/2013/01/15/Lance-Postal-Team-Lawsuit-Fraud

[wootah]

I thought Europeans were supposed to be sophisticated; 'LGBT' is golden these days, especially the hetero to 'fabulous' journey narrative.

The times they are a-changing. Last weekend 350K French came to the streets to protest gay marriage. Sure it were mainly the small town folks who had never seen a driving car, but still a pretty big number for a socialist bastion like France which has "Liberté, égalité et fraternité" as its motto.

au contraire, my French-speaking friend

I'm from the Flemish part, mijn Engelssprekende vriend.

What I want to know is what his motivation for admitting all of this now. Had he stuck to his story, the issue always would have been an asterisk, but would have eventually drifted away like some of the baseball players who did it. Why take a flying leap in the spotlight (and not in a good way) no one ever could completely pin doping on him regardless of how they tried. So why do it and why do it now?

Vanity. He is so vain he probably thinks this topic is about him.

Armstrong was nicknamed "the boss" (more like Tony Soprano boss than Bruce Springsteen boss) and enjoyed/abused that status on and off the bike. He intimidated his colleagues and put them under pressure to join his doping program of his team. Other cyclists of other teams doped as well, but none was ever the ringleader and intimidator like Armstrong was.

I remember an Italian cyclist (Simeoni) who was caught with doping and claimed he got it from the same doctor Armstrong visited. This was never a contender for the TDF, but after his comments Armstrong made sure he never got any success again. I remember Simeoni being ahead in a race with 5 other cyclists which all posed no threat to Armstrong. Armstrong followed Simeoni like his shadow causing the whole peloton to chase the group since Armstrong's competitors didn't want to lose time on him. The members of the breakaway were signaling Armstrong to back off and let them escape for the victory of the day, but he would only do so if Simeoni returned to the peloton with him. He later stated that Simeoni "didn't deserve to win a race".

He was also a role model for thousands of people because of his battle against cancer. How many people were wearing that bracelet referencing that?

Once a hero for the whole world and now he's a cheating fraud. He is valued at 100mil, so I don't think money has to do with it, but he lost his status. I think he hopes to get some of that respect back but I doubt he will succeed though.

[mraynrand]

I believe the difference is that McGreevey actually had gay sex before coming out in a major press release.

you can't prove that in a court of law.