Ishmael Flicks

[mraynrand]

What if she flew Wonderwoman's invisible jet?

how would she find it?

[Zool]

how would she find it?

It’s got that wireframe outline.

[3irty1]

I grew up on 60's and 70's hand-me-down comics so naturally I'm of the mind that what they've done with the fantastic four in films is a crime against humanity. Without the fantastic four, Marvel is missing the movie rights to Dr. Doom. If they were going to get the franchise back I think it would have already happened. Marvel ended the publication a few years ago in what I assume was a way to give Fox the finger after a failed negotiation. It must just be ransom because Fox clearly has no idea how to make money off of FF.

In those old comics there are times where Reed slaps Susan in the face. Didn't age well.

There are some signs that X-Men is starting to leak back into mainstream Marvel. Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are pseudo X-Men. Fox had squeezed just about everything out of the X-Men storylines until they opened up another gold mine with Deadpool. Back in the 90's when Marvel first sold the X-Men film rights, X-Men and Spiderman were the only titles keeping Marvel afloat. In an effort to use that X-Men popularity to give their other characters a boost, they had this big event called the Onslaught Saga that mixed all these other titles into this X-Men plotline. If Marvel were to acquire X-Men film rights tomorrow, they'd need to do a movie like that.

[Zool]

If Disney completes the Fox buyout, you will get your wish.

[mraynrand]

^^^ It's not like Reed was going around slapping the shit out of Susan Storm every day. More prevalent and dated are the female cliches of shopping, changing hair styles, incessant hysteria/weeping, and swooning over Prince Namor.

The FF movies were generally poorly made. I was really pissed when a 200 foot tall arrogant Galactus did not appear. The tan-in-a-can collagen-lipped Susan Storm look was disturbing.

I forgot about who owned which rights.

I stopped collecting comics (or my brother did) around the mid eighties. Still, I think my bro has the entire Amazing Spider Man, PPTSS, most of X-men, FF, Hulk, and Avengers (plus a lot of complete short run series) in plastic somewhere. Probably several thousand comics. Lot of great stories in there. Treasure trove really.

[3irty1]

If Disney completes the Fox buyout, you will get your wish.

Perhaps its naivete but when you're going from 6 media companies that control everything to 5, it seems hard to ignore antitrust law.

[mraynrand]

Perhaps its naivete but when you're going from 6 media companies that control everything to 5, it seems hard to ignore antitrust law.

How would Warner versus Disney be any more problematic than Marvel versus DC? I never saw anyone try to run anti-trust against the comics companies. Maybe because the stakes weren't as high....

[3irty1]

^^^ It's not like Reed was going around slapping the shit out of Susan Storm every day. More prevalent and dated are the female cliches of shopping, changing hair styles, incessant hysteria/weeping, and swooning over Prince Namor.

The FF movies were generally poorly made. I was really pissed when a 200 foot tall arrogant Galactus did not appear. The tan-in-a-can collagen-lipped Susan Storm look was disturbing.

I forgot about who owned which rights.

I stopped collecting comics (or my brother did) around the mid eighties. Still, I think my bro has the entire Amazing Spider Man, PPTSS, most of X-men, FF, Hulk, and Avengers (plus a lot of complete short run series) in plastic somewhere. Probably several thousand comics. Lot of great stories in there. Treasure trove really.

Well Bruce Banner's dad did abuse his mom every day and that aged fine because he was supposed to be an abusive guy. Reed slapping Susan in the face and telling her to shut up only happened a few times but its memorable because it was Reed. Such a different time.

I wasn't much of a collector. The comic bubble burst right when I would have cared so I just kept up with the stories. Every penny I had was going into trading card games instead.

Make sure you keep all those old titles. They don't write em like they used to. Marvel has gone full PC/SJW these days. Spiderman is black, the Hulk is asian, Ta Nehisi Coates writes Black Panther, and is about to take over Captain America.

[3irty1]

How would Warner versus Disney be any more problematic than Marvel versus DC? I never saw anyone try to run anti-trust against the comics companies. Maybe because the stakes weren't as high....

Disney and 21st Century Fox are a hell of a lot more than just comics. Disney is everything from films to ABC to newspapers. Same with Fox.

[call_me_ishmael]

Folks, as much as I appreciate the discussion, this thread is strictly for me to give snarky one liners about content I personally enjoyed so you all can enjoy what I enjoy.

[mraynrand]

Disney and 21st Century Fox are a hell of a lot more than just comics. Disney is everything from films to ABC to newspapers. Same with Fox.

First: duh. But I thought we were just talking about movie rights to comic book heroes. Second: Fox will split in the Disney deal, with the news going separate. Even if the value amounts are different, it matters, because a merger that consolidates 'news' control matters more than entertainment to the political class (they never understand how much entertainment influences culture and politics, but whatever).

[mraynrand]

Folks, as much as I appreciate the discussion, this thread is strictly for me to give snarky one liners about content I personally enjoyed so you all can enjoy what I enjoy.

Don't tell me what to wear to my prom.

[3irty1]

Whatever our predictions are for the next movie will be wrong.

But my prediction will be that Black Widow takes the big leap of death. Hulk finally comes out, but it's not just Hulk, It is WORLD BREAKER HULK!!! Or even better HEART OF THE MONSTER HULK will absolutely crush Thanos. Now Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet is still a different story. Thanos with the gauntlet controls the fundamentally forces of the universe. So no one is going to over power Thanos. Thanos without the gauntlet will get completely pummeled by World Breaker Hulk.

So Thanos will lose the gauntlet by cunning not force.

I think when Scarlet Witch messed with Hulk in Age of Ultron, that was World Breaker Hulk. If not then perhaps in the events of Ragnarok. I say that because Thor: Ragnarok is a combo of the Ragnarok and Planet Hulk comic events and when the Hulk comes back from the gladiator planet is when he's supposed to go World Breaker and face Tony in the hulkbuster armor. But that happened already in the movie universe.

I like the idea of Heart of the Monster Hulk being in a future Dr. Strange movie.

[mraynrand]

I think when Scarlet Witch messed with Hulk in Age of Ultron, that was World Breaker Hulk. If not then perhaps in the events of Ragnarok. I say that because Thor: Ragnarok is a combo of the Ragnarok and Planet Hulk comic events and when the Hulk comes back from the gladiator planet is when he's supposed to go World Breaker and face Tony in the hulkbuster armor. But that happened already in the movie universe.

I like the idea of Heart of the Monster Hulk being in a future Dr. Strange movie.

I must have missed a few of these comics and movies... 'hulkbuster' 'world breaker' 'planet hulk' ???

[call_me_ishmael]

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