More Banjo: Coronavirus And Sports

[sharpe1027]

It's a math problem. Almost twice as transmissible as the flu. About 20 times higher mortality rate. No vaccine. Flu killed about 60k last year.

Do nothing to change those numbers and you shouldn't be surprised with several million dead in the US.

Now, that's just the best we know today. Numbers could go up or down with different assumptions.

[texaspackerbacker]

Don't be surprised if this all turns out to be a big nothing. The symptoms are not nearly as bad as the flu. If the mortality rate is higher up to now, it's because it's mostly people with pre-existing health conditions have been the ones contracting it.

What we know today? 26 deaths and a few hundred total cases. That will undoubtedly go up considerably, but not nearly as much as the panic-mongers are talking about.

[sharpe1027]

Hope you're right Tex. Where did you get the information on most people already having underlying conditions? The mortality rate is based on a lot of cases. I think there are over 100k confirmed and rising. Never seen any breakdown supporting that conclusion.

[texaspackerbacker]

Over 1,000 now - 1,010 to be exact as of 12:40 am, NOT 100,000 confirmed cases. Most deaths (which are now up to 31) are people with chronic or preexisting conditions. Dr. Manny Alvarez said it this evening on Fox News. He also said about 80% or more of the people getting it are asymptomatic, and it's unknown as of now if asymptomatic people who have it can pass it on to others.

This whole thing is overblown. I won't ascribe a motive to that here, but tune in to FYI for my obvious take on that.

[sharpe1027]

Tex, the mortality rates are based on stats from over 100,000 confirmed cases. They exist.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

[sharpe1027]

AGE
DEATH RATE
confirmed cases
DEATH RATE
all cases
80+ years old
14.8%
70-79 years old
8.0%
60-69 years old
3.6%
50-59 years old
1.3%
40-49 years old
0.4%
30-39 years old
0.2%
20-29 years old
0.2%
10-19 years old
0.2%
0-9 years old
no fatalities

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

[sharpe1027]

Finally, I agree most people dying have preexsting conditions, I was asking about your statement that most people contracting the virus. Where's the data for that claim?

[Zool]

https://informationisbeautiful.net/v...34eG2Itk0CZ5QI

[texaspackerbacker]

Tex, the mortality rates are based on stats from over 100,000 confirmed cases. They exist.

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6

Not in America - there sure as hell aren't those numbers here.

[texaspackerbacker]

Finally, I agree most people dying have preexsting conditions, I was asking about your statement that most people contracting the virus. Where's the data for that claim?

What I said or should have said is about deaths, but I have heard that those already sick or old tend to have weaker immune systems and therefore are more likely to get it also.

[mraynrand]

https://informationisbeautiful.net/v...34eG2Itk0CZ5QI

http://zombo.com

[smuggler]

Zombo.com only gets better with age.

[mraynrand]

Zombo.com only gets better with age.

That should be added to the website.

[sharpe1027]

What I said or should have said is about deaths, but I have heard that those already sick or old tend to have weaker immune systems and therefore are more likely to get it also.

Got it. Going strictly by the data, this could kill a whole hell of a lot of people. Any of the assumptions prove wrong and that can change, but it's the best info we have to go in today. Best not to tempt fate IMHO.

[mraynrand]

All the precautions against coronavirus spread should help reduce the incidence of seasonal flu, which killed another 100 people in the US today. As for coronavirus, watch out for places Chinese citizens, especially from the Wuhan region, travelled to recently.