FOX will insult our intelligence

[mraynrand]

Or another invitation to go to the RR or FYI to discuss.

Just ban me then. Don’t be a wimp. If I can’t invite them to the other side of the forum, what’s the point of having those other forums? Are they going to find those topics by magic? Inviting them doesn’t violate ANY OF THE RULES IF THE FORUM and you know it. Either have Mad change the rules or ban me. I will not comply unless Mad changes the rules.

[ThunderDan]

Just ban me then. Don’t be a wimp. If I can’t invite them to the other side of the forum, what’s the point of having those other forums? Are they going to find those topics by magic? Inviting them doesn’t violate ANY OF THE RULES IF THE FORUM and you know it. Either have Mad change the rules or ban me. I will not comply unless Mad changes the rules.

Don't be an asshole. You asked. We all know it is there. Leave it alone.

[bobblehead]

Just for clarification: Was Rands post asking about selling tickets and letting adults decide political? Was Red's response political? I'm not sure anymore since no one here has mentioned a single politician or left/right viewpoint. I can't decipher the code to be honest.

edit: I guess what I'm asking is this. Is it political to take a stand on whether we need to ban attendance or not?

[pbmax]

red's original topic was broadcasting CGI people and fake crowd noise during games.

Since my original request to stick to the topic, we have had roughly 12 posts not on topic and an argument about the wisdom of crowds versus no crowds, dumb people, individuals assuming risk, theorizing about the thread getting moved, two invitations to go to RR or FYI, one post about banning rather then be wimpy and asking and one post trying to define political.

To answer your questions directly bobble, yes its moved into the political.

[falco]

red's original topic was broadcasting CGI people and fake crowd noise during games.

Since my original request to stick to the topic, we have had roughly 12 posts not on topic and an argument about the wisdom of crowds versus no crowds, dumb people, individuals assuming risk, theorizing about the thread getting moved, two invitations to go to RR or FYI, one post about banning rather then be wimpy and asking and one post trying to define political.

To answer your questions directly bobble, yes its moved into the political.

+1

[falco]

In the interest of getting back on topic, I personally would enjoy seeing what football looks like with an empty stadium. It will be a year to remember.

Piping in fake noise and adding fake crowds has an oddly dystopian feel to me.

[mraynrand]

Don't be an asshole. You asked. We all know it is there. Leave it alone.

What exactly should I leave alone?

[mraynrand]

red's original topic was broadcasting CGI people and fake crowd noise during games.

Since my original request to stick to the topic, we have had roughly 12 posts not on topic and an argument about the wisdom of crowds versus no crowds, dumb people, individuals assuming risk, theorizing about the thread getting moved, two invitations to go to RR or FYI, one post about banning rather then be wimpy and asking and one post trying to define political.

To answer your questions directly bobble, yes its moved into the political.

I’d rather have real people. That’s on topic.

[ThunderDan]

What exactly should I leave alone?

Honestly, if you need to ask it won't help if I tell you.

[Radagast]

Please head to FYI so I can ask you 2 questions re: has there ever been a cure or vaccine for a covid virus. and also should we just stay on lockdown until one is found for the first time in history. I won't ask that here, but if you head on over we can discuss.

First, I always enjoy reading your post when they address football.

I can't say a covid virus cure or vaccine has ever been discovered, and I can't say one will appear anytime soon to save the day, but I do know that Doctors and Scientist worldwide are urgently laboring to discover one. AIDS (HIV) at one time had no medical recourse, no cure was/has been found, but a way was discovered for those affected to live with it.

"Lockdown" is your word, I look at it as being socially responsible. Like RED was saying, it's one thing to put yourself at risk, but where does ones personal freedom begin to adversely the innocent. It's one thing to drink like a fish, but getting behind the controls of a car in such a condition can/and does kill innocent people.I can understand that not all have the self discipline to support social distancing for more than a few weeks. Furthermore I am also aware of the economic hardships this Pandemic is creating, but which weights more on a scale, Life or Money? Money can be replaced, but death is permanent.

Being prepared for unforeseen or expected occurrences is just smart. Many of our homes store medical and other emergency supplies all the time. From first aid kits to bottled water to needed prescriptions, many believe in having emergency supplies readily available. America should be better prepared for disasters, war, and unforeseen emergencies. We believe in having Police, Fire, and Medical response resources available to respond as/if a needs arises. Regional centers can be placed on military bases to stockpile critical equipment/supplies. Time dated items can be allocated to our Veterans Hospitals and to Public Hospitals as well. Supplies can be continuously kept updated in such a way.

I'm reminded of the people who ignored all attempts to get them to evacuate as a category 4 Hurricane bore down on their seaside community. The group laughed as the had their Hurricane Party. With all else evacuated around them they were first hit with rain, then tremendous winds that shook the house, and then the sea surged in and leveled the house. Those that did not die immediately were killed themselves as the sea reclaimed the water that destroyed the entire community. We know the truth of this story from relatives contacted by the victims just prior to the storms landfall. They thumbed their noses at authorities and lost their lives as a result.

Ignoring advice from experts, especially during a pandemic, not only risk your own life but also the lives of those that you might infect. Governors, Mayors, and others in authority are constantly aware of the needs of the people they are responsible for. .Food, shelter, utilities, and more must be addressed as their revenues shrink. They too are weighing the risk of reopening against the threat of a viral surge. Many are willing to face the risk to themselves to return to jobs or reopen their businesses, but what of the young daughter or Grandfather that is placed at risk when you return home from work. Who supports the family when Papa gets sick and dies.

Lockdown is a word that is more often used in prisons/jails. Unless your in such a place, your free to go buy groceries at your local store, shop at your Loews or Home Depot store, fill your car with gas, purchase at your CVS or Rite Aid pharmacies as your prescription is filled, and you can pick up the order you placed at your local Chili's or Olive Garden restaurant. If your upset that your local Bar isn't open so you can drink and socialize, or you don't have a local sports team to watch play, or that concert you had looked forward to attending has been canceled, then you will just have to be patient a little longer. More businesses will reopen as social distancing continues to be our best weapon. It may be longer than we would like before places like Theaters, Shopping Malls, and even our schools are safe to reopen. Even then many will convert to home video streaming, home shopping through Walmart/Amazon/or others, and many will not trust sending their children back to public schools and continue to have them home schooled. Stadiums, Arenas, and Amphitheaters may be able to book some events, but people will be afraid to attend in large numbers.

Even if case numbers fall to "acceptable" levels, people are not going to be eager to return their Pre Covid-19 ways. With the fresh memories of their unemployment or meals missed or living without electricity in mind, reopened stores and restaurants are sure to see much less business than before the Pandemic. People will, at least for a while, be cooking more at home and saving those dollars. Gardening this and next year will explode as more look to add to their family tables. Working from home has gotten more popular recently and many have already stated that they will continue the hot trend. Companies that can have their employees work from home like Insurance Co., Architects, and more. Reports show that lower overhead and even higher production has occurred.
Many will choose to move on to other jobs/carrier choices as a result of the economic shutdown. Some will turn to education or job training to escape from their former jobs. Others will have little choice but to return to their former employers. Also many small businesses will have or will soon fail, this will place a temporary hit on jobs, but I feel sure that businesses will spring up in their place. Many will get funding from State and Federal funding that I feel confident will be easier than ever before to obtain. Loans/Grants/ or through other means, small businesses will find a way as they always have. Places like Dentist Offices, Car Repair, and Hair Saloons/Barbershops that took financial hits will carefully reopen with strict appointment and PPE policies.

We will not return to the way we used to be, but we may see innovation, invention, and breakthroughs we never thought of before.

[mraynrand]

Honestly, if you need to ask it won't help if I tell you.

OK. My mistake. I should have known better. My apologies to all.

Have a good weekend everyone.

[texaspackerbacker]

There really isn't any politics here. If there was, the thread would be more interesting - but it's not, so there isn't.

[MadtownPacker]

I wish to say thank you to Aynrand. A true Normal and Good poster. PBmax had yet to face adversity dealing with the low element that sleep on the sidewalks here. It honestly made me laugh and smile. Not shitting you. For the record there is no rule about saying come to FYI to someone. So I can’t change the rule that don’t exist. But the politics one does and he asked you a lot nicer then I would have. He wasn’t sarcastic or angry, things definitely Zool or possibly me might have done. Instead PB asked in a white damn near Ned Flanders way. Maybe that’s the problem. Treating people nice.

So what ya gonna do PB?

[MadtownPacker]

There really isn't any politics here. If there was, the thread would be more interesting - but it's not, so there isn't.

Joe El Cartero called this shit on page 2. He knows all you savages well.

[MadtownPacker]

I agree that we would all be better if all the dumb people got together and killed each other

The problem is those idiots would then leave the stadium and go to grocery store and gas stations and other places where non idiots are, and not where their masks, or lower their mask to cough, or lick everything. Thereby putting the rest of us at risk

Red is the true villain here not Aynrand. He post something not relevant to the topics knowing full will it is a big RED button someone is gonna push. Rand then ask him to step outside in a gentlemen type of way.

Then Rashan pops in off his meds and the collapse beings.

The topic was about the morons in the stands not any pandemic shit.