Drug Tests

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Tyrone has passed over 10 drug tests, but they all were urine tests. Including those necessary for the government and fortune 500 companies. Tyrone loves his drugs.

There has never been a test that cannot be defeated. It is simply a matter of money and time necessary devoted to the task. No different than steroids, etc.

First, as noted, it depends on the frequency of smoking. If you are a daily smoker then it will remain in your system for around 30 days. If you take a couple of puffs every couple of days then it is gone pretty quickly. Factor in the quality of your dope as well.

Tyrone has used many products to pass tests for around 15 years. From teas and golden seal to Sonnes #7. I have yet to fail. The best advice I can give is to always be hydrating. This means drinking alot before you smoke, while smoking and after smoking. Drinking 60-80 oz. of water is good for you whether you smoke or not. That way you are constantly flushing. Second get a product that leaches or strips minerals, etc. from your system. This is what Sonne's # 7 does or golden seal root. A couple of days prior to the test should do it. Tyrone loved picking up Golden Seal at the Community Pharmacy on State St. (i believe that was the name of the natural pharmacy downtown).

At the same time, try to abstain for a couple of days before the test. I have passed w/o doing this, but I felt nervous. I usually have some sort of tea or other product that I drink the day of the test. They all have worked for me. I actually keep a bottle in the glove compartment just in case. However, KNOW that if you are injured and have to go immediately get tested (workers comp) those products won't work.

Lastly, when taking your test and filling out the intake form, make sure you put down that you are taking legal drugs. Ibuprofen, Naproxen (aleve), etc. can cause a false positive. You are giving yourself an out if you do this. Of course you should avoid them like the plague as they can eff up your test.

Finally, make sure you take some vitamin b12 or something that will give color to your urine.

There is also synthetic urine and other products that will work. These are the only 100% way of beating the test. But, I've never used them and have always passed.

http://www.passyourdrugtest.com

[Badgepack]

Frickin' Tyrone comes thru, thanks to all the responses.

What if I take prescription meds like pain killers, muscle relaxers. I assume you disclose that and it is acceptable. I do have a legit prescription.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Frickin' Tyrone comes thru, thanks to all the responses.

What if I take prescription meds like pain killers, muscle relaxers. I assume you disclose that and it is acceptable. I do have a legit prescription.

Yes. Disclose. Just make sure you have the prescription available.

Tyrone recalls that he had number of good pills left (10 or so) after his kidney stone operation. Tyrone would only use the Tylenol with codeine for REALLY bad hangovers or migraines. Tyrone mentioned still having them to the company nurse before employment. Nurse freaked out. Last time Tyrone tried to have a reasonable discussion about drugs.

In all honesty, most companies really don't care if you have done drugs. They care about having you drug test so they can get lower cost insurance.

Also, always disclose your "drug problem" at work before they catch you. If you suspect that they may be ready to bring down the hammer go to HR. Most companies have an EAP program. And, policies that getting caught using drugs is a fireable offense, but admitting your problem and then getting help is not fireable.

[GrnBay007]

These are the only 100% way of beating the test. But, I've never used them and have always passed.

You've never used them and have always passed? How can u say they are the only 100% way of beating the test then?
Plus, I wouldn't recommend anyone relying on all this stuff to pass a test. The labs that test and the companies that sell the testing devices don't just sit back ...they are constantly improving testing methods when a new system comes out to beat the test.

[Scott Campbell]

In all honesty, most companies really don't care if you have done drugs. They care about having you drug test so they can get lower cost insurance.

Most companies? That's counter intuitive to me. I hire people. I don't want drug users or gamblers.

[BEARMAN]

BEARMAN is abstaining from this post...

GO BEARS !

[Tyrone Bigguns]

These are the only 100% way of beating the test. But, I've never used them and have always passed.

You've never used them and have always passed? How can u say they are the only 100% way of beating the test then?
Plus, I wouldn't recommend anyone relying on all this stuff to pass a test. The labs that test and the companies that sell the testing devices don't just sit back ...they are constantly improving testing methods when a new system comes out to beat the test.

I have used other methods and always passed. I haven't felt the need to use other people's urine.

Synthetic urine or clean urine is 100%. I don't have to use them to know that. Wouldn't matter if we were talking steroids or THC.

You are correct that Labs are improving. However, as we can all see from steroids, designer drugs, THG, etc., cheaters are ALWAYS head of the game.

Second, most of those labs just do a very simple test. They don't do an expensive diagnostic.

I have given the methods that work for me and others. If you think they don't work that is your right. But, I would tell you that the market determines a product. If they didn't work, people wouldn't buy them. It is that simple.

Of course, the best way is either to NEVER do drugs (how realistic is that?) or to minimize consumption before a test.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

In all honesty, most companies really don't care if you have done drugs. They care about having you drug test so they can get lower cost insurance.

Most companies? That's counter intuitive to me. I hire people. I don't want drug users or gamblers.

Counterintuitive? How so.

Most companies woudn't drug test unless there was a financial incentive to do so. They get better rates.

I'm not saying that all, but most don't really care. When I say care I mean a casual recreational pot smoker. I have met many bosses that were just such users and their companies required testing.

My point would be that if you wanna prevent drug users from being employed they would spend more money on testing...like blood, hair, etc. Why don't they? Because the ROI isn't worth it.

[GrnBay007]

Most companies woudn't drug test unless there was a financial incentive to do so. They get better rates.

I'm not saying that all, but most don't really care. When I say care I mean a casual recreational pot smoker. I have met many bosses that were just such users and their companies required testing.

My point would be that if you wanna prevent drug users from being employed they would spend more money on testing...like blood, hair, etc. Why don't they? Because the ROI isn't worth it.

True. I'm not sure of the cost difference between urine tests or hair stats but there is obviously a reason companies don't use hair stats as even the basic ones go back to 6 months of use. I'm pretty sure the hair stats for a test for airline pilots can go back one year. I think it also depends on if they take a hair sample or go to the root.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Most companies woudn't drug test unless there was a financial incentive to do so. They get better rates.

I'm not saying that all, but most don't really care. When I say care I mean a casual recreational pot smoker. I have met many bosses that were just such users and their companies required testing.

My point would be that if you wanna prevent drug users from being employed they would spend more money on testing...like blood, hair, etc. Why don't they? Because the ROI isn't worth it.

True. I'm not sure of the cost difference between urine tests or hair stats but there is obviously a reason companies don't use hair stats as even the basic ones go back to 6 months of use. I'm pretty sure the hair stats for a test for airline pilots can go back one year. I think it also depends on if they take a hair sample or go to the root.

Generally, from what i've read, a urine test costs in the 40-60s. Hair is about 115-300 beans. That is a substantial difference.

Another point about drug testing and companies would be continued testing. If, as certain studies show, drug use decreases productivity, then why don't companies randomly test? That is the best way to catch somebody. Again, the cost.

More interesting facts on drug testing:

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_faq.shtml

[GBRulz]

My point would be that if you wanna prevent drug users from being employed they would spend more money on testing...like blood, hair, etc. Why don't they? Because the ROI isn't worth it.

Also, if companies really wanted to prevent drug use, they would do random testing, without an advance notice. Not just a pre-employment screening.

TB, you bring up a great point that I had never thought about for why companies initially do the testing (insurance rates.) Another question though.....does the drug testing protect the company from a liability standpoint, should their employee cause an accident while stoned?

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My point would be that if you wanna prevent drug users from being employed they would spend more money on testing...like blood, hair, etc. Why don't they? Because the ROI isn't worth it.

Also, if companies really wanted to prevent drug use, they would do random testing, without an advance notice. Not just a pre-employment screening.

TB, you bring up a great point that I had never thought about for why companies initially do the testing (insurance rates.) Another question though.....does the drug testing protect the company from a liability standpoint, should their employee cause an accident while stoned?

As far as I know, there aren't any laws about being stoned/high/on drugs just posessing them. Like for alcohol they can test the blood concentration, but I don't think they can test for anything with pot or most other drugs.

Then again, I could be 100% wrong

[Tyrone Bigguns]

My point would be that if you wanna prevent drug users from being employed they would spend more money on testing...like blood, hair, etc. Why don't they? Because the ROI isn't worth it.

Also, if companies really wanted to prevent drug use, they would do random testing, without an advance notice. Not just a pre-employment screening.

TB, you bring up a great point that I had never thought about for why companies initially do the testing (insurance rates.) Another question though.....does the drug testing protect the company from a liability standpoint, should their employee cause an accident while stoned?

As far as I know, there aren't any laws about being stoned/high/on drugs just posessing them. Like for alcohol they can test the blood concentration, but I don't think they can test for anything with pot or most other drugs.

Then again, I could be 100% wrong

Try getting pulled over by the popo when you are high. I'm sure they won't bust you.

[Fosco33]

My point would be that if you wanna prevent drug users from being employed they would spend more money on testing...like blood, hair, etc. Why don't they? Because the ROI isn't worth it.

Also, if companies really wanted to prevent drug use, they would do random testing, without an advance notice. Not just a pre-employment screening.

TB, you bring up a great point that I had never thought about for why companies initially do the testing (insurance rates.) Another question though.....does the drug testing protect the company from a liability standpoint, should their employee cause an accident while stoned?

As far as I know, there aren't any laws about being stoned/high/on drugs just posessing them. Like for alcohol they can test the blood concentration, but I don't think they can test for anything with pot or most other drugs.

Then again, I could be 100% wrong

I'm pretty sure you can be tested for drugs in similar manner as a DUI - at least that's what I learned from watching COPS.

Regarding passing drug tests for THC, some of the masking agents work fine - as many have suggested here. In reality, it's a diuretic and just replaces your urine w/ urine like fluid and works 4-6 hours after consumption. Be sure to take some B12 to make your piss yellow.

Regarding companies/gov't/etc testing for drugs - well, it's their company so they can do what they please. IMO, non-labor jobs shouldn't waste their time drug testing. If someone is dumb enough to get high AT work, their performance may suffer and they'll soon be out the door. The amount of illicit drug use in the highest professions would amaze the average citizen.

Hell, our last two presidents have admitted drug use - didn't seem to impede getting the top job in the country.

[MJZiggy]

Bill never inhaled.