I've found COCAINE in a can!!!

[FavreChild]

One box of ephedrine HCL....

He he...ephedrine!

Told ya, LW - That's what the Nyquil is for.

[imscott72]

One box of ephedrine HCL....

He he...ephedrine!

Told ya, LW - That's what the Nyquil is for.

Hell yah. There's sex, beer, the Packers, and ephedrine..It's called priorities..

[FavreChild]

No, it's called NECESSITIES.

But that about sums it up, yes.

[imscott72]

No, it's called NECESSITIES.

But that about sums it up, yes.

Well yeah that is another great word for it..

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ephe (e.g. trucker speed) was cool in college.

[FavreChild]

Yeah....so why is ephedrine in Nyquil? What a con. That's what makes it the world's most perfect drug.

(But tell that to my liver in 10 years.)

[imscott72]

What is ephedrine?

Ephedrine, ephedra, and ma huang are all terms used to describe the same substance or derivative of the plant, ephedra. Ephedra is a stimulant containing the herbal form of ephedrine.

Is ephedrine safe?

Ephedrine is considered a relatively safe herb when taken in moderation or per FDA regulation. It works extremely well and is highly effective. Almost every weight loss and energy supplement contains some form of ephedrine. Millions of people consume supplements containing ephedrine annually whether they realize it or not. Ephedrine is also found in many over-the-counter asthma, cold, and flu medications.

Is ephedrine dangerous?

What makes ephedrine potentially dangerous are the [ephedrine] alkaloids which stimulate the heart and central nervous system, which ultimately speed up the metabolism. Side effects most commonly associated with ephedrine use are jitters and headaches. Additionally, ephedrine use has been linked to heart attacks, high blood pressure, nerve damage, strokes, dizziness, seizures, and death.

What does the FDA have to say about ephedrine?

In 1997, the FDA's proposal would prohibit the marketing of dietary supplements containing 8 milligrams or more of ephedrine alkaloids per serving. Labeling that recommends or suggests conditions of use that would result in an intake of 8mg or more in a 6-hour period or a total daily intake of 24mg or more also would not be allowed.

In addition, the proposal would require label statements instructing consumers not to use the product for more than 7 days, and would not allow label claims for uses for which long-term intake would be necessary to achieve the purported effect.

My take on ephedrine.

If you talk to two doctors about ephedrine, you'll get two different opinions.

I definitely believe that the dangers of ephedrine have been overstated. One could argue that anyone who experiences or has experienced side effects with ephedrine shouldn't be taking it.

The list of restrictions on taking ephedrine-based supplements include recurring heart problems, diabetes, alcohol abuse, liver problems, pregnancy, thyroid disorders, or in conjunction with another prescription medication to name a few.

In the case of ephedrine-related deaths, it could also be said that the intake was too much or the subjects were too young and should not have been using ephedrine in the first place.

The media seems to underscore athlete or teen ephedrine-related deaths without addressing misuse of the herbal stimulant.

Lastly, if you plan on supplementing with ephedrine, consult with a physician and pay close attention to the recommended dosage on the bottle/container. Even consider taking less than the manufacturer's recommendations.

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References:
1. Astrup, A., Tourbo, S., Cannon, S., Hein, P., Madsen, J. (1990). Thermogenic, Metabolic, and Cardiovascular Effects of a Sympathomimetic Agent, Ephedrine. Curr Therapeutic Res. 48.6, 1087-1100.

[Little Whiskey]

well i'm on the first day of the rest of my life. I'm quitting cold turkey. I havn't had a...uhh...well you know (I can't even say it or i might fall off) since last night. I've got a blistering headache and am really edging. I just told my coworker to jam his computer up his ass for asking me how Kenseth did this weekend. I almost helped him with the computer. by the way kenseth lost his brakes yesterday with less than ten laps to go. he was currently in the top ten. now you too can take you computer and shove it were the sun don't shine!!!

[MJZiggy]

OOOhhhhh!!! Eggshell alert!! Someone get that boy a substitute so we can all live with him while he's rehabbing!

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Don't waste your money on that stuff. Get some caffeine powder in bulk which costs a few bucks, then get a box of ephedrine HCL pills for 8 bucks or so. Take one pill (25mgs) 3 times daily with 200 mg's caffeine and your set. One box of ephedrine HCL and a bag of caffeine will last ya a good month and cost you approx. 15 bucks. Not only will it buzz you good, but you'll lose some serious bodyfat on it. I take this stack every spring to get my bodyfat % back around 10% for the summer beach weather. Shit works...

I've tried the ECA stack and it works, but never bought in bulk as you suggest. Where do you buy it?

[imscott72]

Don't waste your money on that stuff. Get some caffeine powder in bulk which costs a few bucks, then get a box of ephedrine HCL pills for 8 bucks or so. Take one pill (25mgs) 3 times daily with 200 mg's caffeine and your set. One box of ephedrine HCL and a bag of caffeine will last ya a good month and cost you approx. 15 bucks. Not only will it buzz you good, but you'll lose some serious bodyfat on it. I take this stack every spring to get my bodyfat % back around 10% for the summer beach weather. Shit works...

I've tried the ECA stack and it works, but never bought in bulk as you suggest. Where do you buy it?

bulknutrition.com
customnutritionwarehouse.com

Those are the two sites I use the most. Try the Sesamin/Camp stack and let me know how it works. I've been thinking of giving it a shot.

[AtownPackFan]

I see no one supplied an energy drink cocktail recipe......sorry wiskey, hope this doesn't make you slip back into your addicitve ways.


JaggerBomb:

1 oz shot of Jaggermiester
1/2 can of red bull

You can either mix them and drink like any normal drink.....OR.......

Pour the Red Bull into a glass, drop a shot glass of jagger, and slam it back!

Sounds kinda nasty but is really not too bad.

[Little Whiskey]

so what is the "effect". is it any different than mixing with soda? or does the alcohol have a distictive effect due to the energy drink? can you substitue redbull with Rockstar? just asking not that i would try it or anything, since i am giving them up!!

[FavreChild]

Yes, and yes.

(Atown - what this "1 oz" stuff?)

But don't you try it, Little Whiskey! There's a couple of studies that have been done about the Red Bull-cocktail phenomenon. (yes, it's the same effect w/ RockStar). I'll see if I can find one for ya....

(Although you're not supposed to be reading this thread, anyway.)

[K-town]

A lot of people I know (especially women bartenders) favor Jagerbombs. Ugh. To me, it tastes like a combination of coughsyrup and paint thinner. Of course, most people look at the various brands of yequila I drink and think I'm deranged; so who am I to comment on taste?

I think there are universal taste statements that can be made. For example, I never met anyone who liked Old Crow. Not a lot of people will order a Cement Mixer for themselves. I'm glad I outlived the hey-day of flaming shots.