Don Imus - suspended

[pacfan]

I don't think minorities, and particularly black minorities, will ever achieve equal status in this country until they begin behaving as equals.

But that's just my opinion.

What type of behavior would you want? The bias right now is that white people lose out on jobs because of minority quotas. Exactly how many jobs are held by non-white people and are you certain that they have it becasue of race?

Should every job in the country be first offered to a white person first? Only after it is pubicly declined should then a non-white person be offered the same position?

Whew, white-entitlement

Condolezza Rice? should she behave better by forgoing her position so that a "better trained" white person can hold the position?

Alberto Gonzales, ok bad example.......

It is amazing that you are so certain the non-white people hired lack the same skills you have or deprived you of your "rightful" position.

[Mazzin]

Last night, me and my boyfriend talked about this topic for quite some time. I was surprised when he told me the company he works for will not hire black people, not his ENTIRE company, but the store he works at will not. There are a total of 7 people that work there. The reason they will not hire any black males (always males, they ALL have to lift heavy weight) because in the 13 years they have been opened here, a total of 7 black males had PREVIOUSLY worked there. It all comes down to this.

7 black males = 6 black males caught stealing (out of the register, or loading up their friends at the back door) And the odd man out, got fired because they had suspected he was stealing out of the register, because they were always off 50 to 100 dollars, once a week. Than one day he came in all pilled out, and collapsed on the racks in the back....after he got fired the register was never short again.

They have had 2 white males get fired for stealing since being open, so thats the conclusion they have come up with. It's logical because that ratio is INSANE, due to there always being more white males than black males. And I'm not saying I agree, just relaying because I found it interesting.

Also on the 11 O'Clock news at least 4 times a week there is a shooting downtown here. Granted it's not the best place down there, but I would estimate %85-%90 are African American males. Why is it that black on black crime is the worst as far as occurences go?

Not trying to offend anyone, just growing up where I have grown up my life, it leaves alot of impressions, and ideas on you. Some unwanted, and hard to cope with.

[Scott Campbell]

It is amazing that you are so certain the non-white people hired lack the same skills you have or deprived you of your "rightful" position.

It wasn't mine, or anyone elses rightful position. The position should have gone to those most qualified. Period. Minorities were not held to the same hiring/washout standard that whites were. That's just how it was. Everybody knew it, and knew why we had to do it. Unfortunately minorities didn't apply for the job at the same rate as whites, so when they did get ahold of one they went to somewhat extreme lengths to get them through the program.

[Scott Campbell]

Exactly how many jobs are held by non-white people and are you certain that they have it becasue of race?

I'd bet nobody could tell you exactly how many. And I'm guessing that you know that. So it's a stupid question.

[Scott Campbell]

Should every job in the country be first offered to a white person first?

I have no clue as to how anything I said could have possibly been construed/twisted in such a manner.

[packinpatland]

I'll be damned...Jason Whitlock actually made it on to one of the 24/7 news channels and says Jackson and Sharpton are terrorist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ZQXaXmCW4

Wow!! Did I not make the same point previously???
Jackson and Sharpton are empowerded by these controversies and this is scarey! I agree totally with Jason Whitlock..............and that doesn't happen often.

[Scott Campbell]

It is amazing that you are so certain the non-white people hired lack the same skills you have or deprived you of your "rightful" position.

It's nearly as amazing as someone with no firsthand experience with my situation questioning it.

[Scott Campbell]

Last night, me and my boyfriend talked about this topic for quite some time. I was surprised when he told me the company he works for will not hire black people, not his ENTIRE company, but the store he works at will not.

That is discrimination, and it's just plain wrong. Besides being immoral, it exposes the company to a huge liability risk, and I'm sure damages would far outweigh anything that was previously stolen.

[pacfan]

Exactly how many jobs are held by non-white people and are you certain that they have it becasue of race?

I'd bet nobody could tell you exactly how many. And I'm guessing that you know that. So it's a stupid question.

You are so quick to pass judgement. It was just a question to see that if you knew of any non-white people who held a job and if it was strictly on the basis of race? You said quotas were "put ahead" of safety standards, implying to me that the person hired didn't meet standards (perhaps yours) for the agency. I was wondering if you knew how many non-white people were employed in such a manner for you to say such a statement. If it makes you feel better, I don't know the answer either.

I also responded to your behavior comment. What is the appropiate behavior minorities, especially blacks, should adopt in order to legitimately qualify for a job with your (perhaps former) government agency?

Is it unfair to engage you on your comments? Your previous post seems to imply that I shouldn't considering that I don't have first-hand knowledge.

We can still be friends right?

[Scott Campbell]

You are so quick to pass judgement.

LOL

Pot meet kettle.

[Scott Campbell]

I also responded to your behavior comment. What is the appropiate behavior minorities, especially blacks, should adopt in order to legitimately qualify for a job with your (perhaps former) government agency?

At the time (87-90) it was very difficult to determine prior to hiring whether people had the aptitude or not. It took about 3 years to get someone through the program, and the washout rate was about 95%. That is, unless you were a woman or a minority.

[Scott Campbell]

Is it unfair to engage you on your comments? Your previous post seems to imply that I shouldn't considering that I don't have first-hand knowledge..

Then you've minintepreted what I meant - again. And that seems to be the pattern here.

[Mazzin]

Yea I agree it's wrong. I asked my boyfriend, and he says that they just will turn them down...and i know its bad, but my boyfriend said that the manager said "If they don't have tattos, and look all "niggerish". "

Which even for what I belive I don't think he should say that kind of stuff period, just keep it to yourself, alot of things are better that way.

But it is still a DOUBLE STANDARD!

Miss BLACK America....What if we had a Miss WHITE America? = pissed of African Americans.

N.A.A.C.P.....what if N.A.A.W.P? = pissed off African Americans.

Negro College fund.....White College fund? ......you guessed it = pissed of African Americans.

If you want equality, why want to be soo different.

Oh yea one more, what if we had WHITE history month? I mean come on now.

[Kiwon]

I'll be damned...Jason Whitlock actually made it on to one of the 24/7 news channels and says Jackson and Sharpton are terrorist

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ZQXaXmCW4

Okay, I'm mad now. How dare he go on TV and hurt the underground economy by exposing the shake-down industry!

Jesse's got a love child to support. Al doesn't wear the same $3,000 suit twice. He don't know who he's messin' with. Watch out, Jason. Pacman Jones has time and needs some work.

Don't meddle in the bidness of The Justice Brothers!

[Scott Campbell]

Al doesn't wear the same $3,000 suit twice.

Now let's be fair. The only reason those suits are $3K each is the massive amount of fabric involved. It's not like they're Armani.