Why We Should Legalize Drugs

[falco]

.....lets start looking at addiction as a sickness rather than a crime, and start working to rehabilitate people.

Tht's real nobel, and I admire you for it. But I have another idea that I know won't appeal to you, but is cheap and will solve the problem.

Let's NOT do all of what you said; let's not rehab druggies. Let's give them their stuff till they die of natural causes. Let's not involve really really expensive therapies. Let's accet they are today's lepers, put them into the most comfortable environment they can be in on taxpayers' money and wait for them to expire.

Let's take their children and put them into solid foster homes. Pro-actively. Let's teach the offspring of crack-heads, it's not their fault their parents failed.

Let's look drugs in the eye and remove the platform for growth, once and for all.

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

You think once they're all dead, no one will ever do drugs again?

[Tarlam!]

Did I suggest that?

Do people still smoke or abuse alchohol?

[Tarlam!]

But, do people kill people for a pack of cigarettes? Literally??

[falco]

But, do people kill people for a pack of cigarettes? Literally??

Tarlam, I'm not opposed to the model of providing drugs as a disincentive to committing crimes. I'm sure most people are, especially in America, but I think it has merit.

If you are proposing segregating them from society and making no effort to rehabilitate them, then I think your idea is inhumane.

[MJZiggy]

.....lets start looking at addiction as a sickness rather than a crime, and start working to rehabilitate people.

Tht's real nobel, and I admire you for it. But I have another idea that I know won't appeal to you, but is cheap and will solve the problem.

Let's NOT do all of what you said; let's not rehab druggies. Let's give them their stuff till they die of natural causes. Let's not involve really really expensive therapies. Let's accet they are today's lepers, put them into the most comfortable environment they can be in on taxpayers' money and wait for them to expire.

Let's take their children and put them into solid foster homes. Pro-actively. Let's teach the offspring of crack-heads, it's not their fault their parents failed.

Let's look drugs in the eye and remove the platform for growth, once and for all.

Sounds a lot like what Mad suggested on the other page.

[Tarlam!]

It is inhumane. It suggests they are on the same level as child molesterers in terms of rehab. I do not believe they can be rehabilitated either, but that's for a different thread.

My overall thought is, cut our losses and dictate how we move on. I am sick of German troops being killed in Afganistan by stinger rockets financed by poppy seeds that make heroin that ultimately makes it to the streets of Frankfurt, London, Paris or Los Angeles. No doubt, so are Americans sick of seeing their troops slaughtered similarly!

I waste a lot of my own money, but I am prudent with other peoples' dough. I would't invest in rehab for a crack head. I would invest in a humane environment to expire.

[falco]

It is inhumane. It suggests they are on the same level as child molesterers in terms of rehab. I do not believe they can be rehabilitated either, but that's for a different thread.

My overall thought is, cut our losses and dictate how we move on. I am sick of German troops being killed in Afganistan by stinger rockets financed by poppy seeds that make heroin that ultimately makes it to the streets of Frankfurt, London, Paris or Los Angeles. No doubt, so are Americans sick of seeing their troops slaughtered similarly!

I waste a lot of my own money, but I am prudent with other peoples' dough. I would't invest in rehab for a crack head. I would invest in a humane environment to expire.

I'm sure you could set up a nice camp for them somewhere...

[Tarlam!]

No need to be condascending.

[BallHawk]

I am sick of German troops being killed in Afganistan by stinger rockets financed by poppy seeds that make heroin that ultimately makes it to the streets of Frankfurt, London, Paris or Los Angeles.

So, what you're saying is, if the drugs are made legal, then even if the gun is funded by herion, it's different because it was done legally? How does that make a difference?

Also, making drugs legal isn't going to stop Meth Addicts from robbing homes. The last thing we need is a free-for-all on drugs.

[falco]

No need to be condascending.

I'm not being condescending. I'm pointing out the irony of your proposal to lock up drug addicts against their will, forcibly separate them from their families, and feed them drugs until they die.

[Tarlam!]

No need to be condascending.

I'm not being condescending. I'm pointing out the irony of your proposal to lock up drug addicts against their will, forcibly separate them from their families, and feed them drugs until they die.

You're implying something I didn't suggest.

I suggested removing their children, which the State does anyway in the necessary case. I furthermore suggested prong their drug and "providing" residence. In no way did I suggest or mean to imply incarceration.

I also suggested not providing rehab, because it is extremely cost intensive and highly unsuccessful.

[Tarlam!]

So, what you're saying is, if the drugs are made legal, then even if the gun is funded by herion, it's different because it was done legally? How does that make a difference?

Also, making drugs legal isn't going to stop Meth Addicts from robbing homes. The last thing we need is a free-for-all on drugs.

No, what I am suggesting is, american farmers plant poppy legally. I am suggesting the pharmaceutical industry produce clean drugs. I am suggesting drug stores carry drugs. I am suggesting you, if over 21 can go and buy drugs oer the counter.

Meth addicts have no place in society today. That's a large reason as to why the act outside of societies laws. Make a place for them within society. See what transpires. I am sure should be shocked.

[falco]

No need to be condascending.

I'm not being condescending. I'm pointing out the irony of your proposal to lock up drug addicts against their will, forcibly separate them from their families, and feed them drugs until they die.

You're implying something I didn't suggest.

I suggested removing their children, which the State does anyway in the necessary case. I furthermore suggested prong their drug and "providing" residence. In no way did I suggest or mean to imply incarceration.

I also suggested not providing rehab, because it is extremely cost intensive and highly unsuccessful.

Then I misunderstood; I agree with your notion, except that I would argue we have an obligation to provide the resources to rehabilitate people.

Your proposal is to legalize drug and provide addicts with free drugs and free residence for the rest of their lives. You don't think this could backfire?

[Tarlam!]

Potentially. But my motives are to remove the platform for which bad people make money off of our weaknesses.

The "War on Drugs" is failing. The way it is currently being waged has no possibility of winning.

I am trying to propose a method of ending and winning a war on drugs.

[BEARMAN]

I have to disagree with you sir, I am on the front line of your so called war on drugs and from where I see it we are winning. I am a Narcotics/K9 Officer and deal with people using, selling, transporting,and buying drugs every day. I see, first hand the effects of drugs on kids, adults and families. I have been fighting the war on drugs for over 18 years, and have seem remarkable changes in people using,selling,transporting narcotics. The laws work. You deal to a minor you get hammered, you deal within 500 feet of a school zone you get hammered, you have in your possesion more then 27.9 grams of anything (narcotic) you get hammered. There are a ton of good people fighting hard in this so called war on drugs, and we do make a differance ! Legallizing any narcotic is a mistake ! My .02