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  • #16
    Tragic negligence.

    I wonder if the nurses/dispatchers thought the woman was faking it. The article says she was a transient drug abuser who was treated and released several times in the days leading up to her death. I wonder if they thought she was just trying to get more prescription drugs or something. I doubt they thought she was seriously ill. We can all cry foul, but the people working there are people just like you and I--who made a tragic mistake.

    Whomever diagnosed her is in trouble also. It's a tough field. For them, they can't be wrong once.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #17
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
      Tragic negligence.

      I doubt they thought she was seriously ill.
      Bleeding from the mouth is always serious unless you've just been punched...
      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MJZiggy
        Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
        Tragic negligence.

        I doubt they thought she was seriously ill.
        Bleeding from the mouth is always serious unless you've just been punched...
        I think there was negligence. I'm just trying to figure out what happened. It says she was bleeding from the mouth, but I haven't heard the tapes, so I don't know what the called made clear to the dispatchers. The nurses apparently weren't there to see the bleeding.

        I'm just thinking the woman came in numerous times in the previous days, was diagnosed (presumably by a doctor), and was released. I wasn't there. I'm just trying to remain fair, and think of why it happened. The woman's family will and should get money, but that money won't bring her back and the hospital will just pass on the costs to others. The better question is to determine why it happened and try to ensure it wouldn't happen again. Was it something that was hard to diagnose, or should the doctors have figured it out?

        ON A SIDE NOTE: I just read the dispatcher's back-and-forth in the first article. That woman is in trouble. Flavor Flav comes to mind. I have a cousin who works as a dispatcher. That's a tough job, but you need to remain professional and assume the worst at all times.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          We can all cry foul, but the people working there are people just like you and I--who made a tragic mistake.
          This is true. These people are human and do make mistakes....however, there are some professions that "mistakes" in a manner as serious as this do cost them their job....and maybe their chosen profession. When you work in a profession such as that you always error on the side of caution. Always think of the worst that could happen and act from that perspective.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by GrnBay007
            This is true. These people are human and do make mistakes....however, there are some professions that "mistakes" in a manner as serious as this do cost them their job....and maybe their chosen profession. When you work in a profession such as that you always error on the side of caution. Always think of the worst that could happen and act from that perspective.
            Definitely.
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #21
              This can not be classified as 'mistakes' made.

              Goes way beyond. I'm not sure there's a word that can adequately describe what happened. But not mistakes.

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              • #22
                Hmmmm, this story reminds me of a lot of the stories in Moores movie "Sicko". She probably didn't have health insurance, so they refused to treat her. Its not any different from the story in Sicko, where the woman called 911 because her daughter had a fever of over 104. An ambulance came and took her daughter to the nearest hospital. The hospital checked with her HMO, and they were told that Kaiser would not pay for the tests and anti-biotics necessary to treat her daughter at that hospital. So, the Hospital refused to treat her, saying that she would have to take her daughter to an "in-network" Kaiser hospital. Her daughter suffered a seizure at that first hospital, yet they still refused to treat her, then went so far as to "escort" the crying mother out of the hospital, saying they felt that she was a "threat". The mother had to take her daughter to a Kaiser Hospital by car, and her daughter went into cardiac arrest and died by the time she got there.
                She had insurance. It did her no good. How is that for a kick in the ass? Only in America.

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