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My pops just bought a vacation/rental property out there.Originally posted by packinpatlandI recently read that approx. 2,000 people a day move into the 'valley of the sun' otherwise know as Phoenix ( and all it's 'burbs').
Being that it is a desert, in the midst of a long drought, how long can they keep this up? Eventually the water has to give out.
I lived there in the 60's, the humidity was in the low single digits, not so anymore. Yes, it's still dry, but with all the lawns, pools, 'lakes'........they even have mosquitos now.
Housing is very reasonable.
But then when California has the 'big one', AZ will be oceanfront.
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My in laws own a "Park Model" out in Apache Junction, very reasonably priced and very nice facilities in this particular park. Works out well for them in the winter months...they spend the summer back in Minnesota.Originally posted by packinpatlandI recently read that approx. 2,000 people a day move into the 'valley of the sun' otherwise know as Phoenix ( and all it's 'burbs').
Being that it is a desert, in the midst of a long drought, how long can they keep this up? Eventually the water has to give out.
I lived there in the 60's, the humidity was in the low single digits, not so anymore. Yes, it's still dry, but with all the lawns, pools, 'lakes'........they even have mosquitos now.
Housing is very reasonable.
But then when California has the 'big one', AZ will be oceanfront.
C.H.U.D.
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I would never want to live in a place like that. That'd be way too hectic for me. Florida's been similar to that, but 2,000? That's just crazy.Originally posted by packinpatlandI recently read that approx. 2,000 people a day move into the 'valley of the sun' otherwise know as Phoenix ( and all it's 'burbs')
Phoenix would be too hot for me, anyway. They have 89 days a year that are over 100 degrees.
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Home Sales Hit Slowest Pace in Four Years
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER,
AP
WASHINGTON (June 25) - Reflecting further housing troubles, sales of existing homes in the United States fell in May to the lowest level in four years while the median home price dropped for a record 10th consecutive month.
The National Association of Realtors reported Monday that sales of existing single-family homes and condominiums dropped by 0.3 percent to 5.99 million units in May, the slowest sales pace since June of 2003.
The median price of a home sold last month dropped to $223,700, down 2.1 percent from a year ago. It marked the 10th straight price decline compared with a year ago, the longest stretch of weakness on record.
The sales decline reflected weakness in the South, where sales dropped by 3.4 percent, and the West, where sales were down by 0.8 percent.
Sales actually showed strength in the Northeast, rising by 5.8 percent, and the Midwest, where they were up 0.7 percent.
In a troubling sign for the future, the inventory of unsold homes rose by 5 percent to 4.43 million units in May, a level that would take 8.9 months to clear out at the May sales pace. That is the highest inventory level since the last deep slump in housing in 1992.
Analysts said housing is being hurt currently by high inventories and the recent crisis in subprime mortgages, which has caused lenders to tighten their standards, making it harder for potential buyers to qualify for loans.
They said all of the housing troubles seem to be causing a crisis in confidence, making people delay decisions to buy homes.
"I think psychological factors are currently the biggest drag on the housing market, in addition to a disruption from tighter credit for subprime borrowers," said Lawrence Yun, senior economist with the Realtors.
"Household formation has slowed dramatically since late 2006, implying that many people are doubling-up. They're adding roommates are moving in with parents," he said.
The current slump in housing is the worst since the 1989-92 downturn. It is occurring after a prolonged boom that saw sales of new and existing homes set new records for five consecutive years.
Analysts believe that the median home price, the midpoint where half the homes sold for more and half for less, will continue falling until builders move further to cut back on production of new homes coming on the market.
The Realtors are predicting that the median home price will decline by 1.3 percent this year while sales are forecast to drop by 4.6 percent. It would be the first annual price decline in four decades of record-keeping.
Another potential problem is mortgage rates, which have been trending higher in recent weeks although they still remain below their historical averages.
According to Freddie Mac, the average commitment rate for 30-year mortgages was 6.26 percent in May, up from 6.18 percent in April.
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Wonder how long this is expected to last
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Originally posted by MadtownPackerThat's not CenCal you pendejo. Im not sure what those garlic breath wine sipping snobs consider themselves.Originally posted by Freak OutI consider central Cali the Napa or Geyserville area.
Where you talking about? Fresneck?
C.H.U.D.
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Originally posted by BallHawkI would never want to live in a place like that. That'd be way too hectic for me. Florida's been similar to that, but 2,000? That's just crazy.Originally posted by packinpatlandI recently read that approx. 2,000 people a day move into the 'valley of the sun' otherwise know as Phoenix ( and all it's 'burbs')
Phoenix would be too hot for me, anyway. They have 89 days a year that are over 100 degrees.
You should spend 5 minutes on the Arizona State campus, and then decide.
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Scott, do you mean that in a good or not good way?Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by BallHawkI would never want to live in a place like that. That'd be way too hectic for me. Florida's been similar to that, but 2,000? That's just crazy.Originally posted by packinpatlandI recently read that approx. 2,000 people a day move into the 'valley of the sun' otherwise know as Phoenix ( and all it's 'burbs')
Phoenix would be too hot for me, anyway. They have 89 days a year that are over 100 degrees.
You should spend 5 minutes on the Arizona State campus, and then decide.
ASU's campus has become a city in of itself. It's huge!
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It would take 9 months just to eliminate existing inventory of homes for sale, without another home going up for sale. You can blame the greedy mass production home builders for that.Originally posted by GrnBay007Home Sales Hit Slowest Pace in Four Years
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER,
AP
In a troubling sign for the future, the inventory of unsold homes rose by 5 percent to 4.43 million units in May, a level that would take 8.9 months to clear out at the May sales pace. That is the highest inventory level since the last deep slump in housing in 1992.
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Scott, is ASU where you do your wife-shopping?Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by BallHawkI would never want to live in a place like that. That'd be way too hectic for me. Florida's been similar to that, but 2,000? That's just crazy.Originally posted by packinpatlandI recently read that approx. 2,000 people a day move into the 'valley of the sun' otherwise know as Phoenix ( and all it's 'burbs')
Phoenix would be too hot for me, anyway. They have 89 days a year that are over 100 degrees.
You should spend 5 minutes on the Arizona State campus, and then decide.
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Originally posted by oregonpackfanScott, is ASU where you do your wife-shopping?Originally posted by Scott CampbellOriginally posted by BallHawkI would never want to live in a place like that. That'd be way too hectic for me. Florida's been similar to that, but 2,000? That's just crazy.Originally posted by packinpatlandI recently read that approx. 2,000 people a day move into the 'valley of the sun' otherwise know as Phoenix ( and all it's 'burbs')
Phoenix would be too hot for me, anyway. They have 89 days a year that are over 100 degrees.
You should spend 5 minutes on the Arizona State campus, and then decide.
That was good!!!!
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