PS3

[Zool]

Re: PS3

thats why they sold the old xbox's and probably the 360 for less then what it costs to make them. they sold them cheap to get as many out there as they could to sell more games

Here's where the misunderstanding about the system war comes in. The 360 came out a calendar year before the PS3. It was priced at $399 on launch. The HD-DVD addon was I believe $129.

PS3 launched at $499 with a BluRay player already installed.

The 360 is currently $350 and still lacking any HD movie support without an add-on purchase which is now unsupported by movie studios.

The PS3 is $399 now with BluRay with a rumored price drop coming soon.

If you have an HD-TV and want to watch HD movies, the PS3 is an absolute no brainer. Its the best BluRay player on the market and being that you can hook it up to any standard internet connection you get firmware updates easily. They just released DTS support in the latest system patch.

[SkinBasket]

Being a freak for the best picture I wondered how much of a difference this upgrade would make, if there was much of a difference with the HDMI upgrade. Any chance anyone knows anybody who's got an eyeball of this conversion?

You're not going to see much of a difference because your still going to be running at the same resolution as you were on component since the xbox doesn't run 1080p. Essentially HDMI on the xbox just makes it easier to connect to your TV.

As far as exclusives go, the games cost so much to produce these days that it is becoming financially impossible to make games as large as GTA without making them cross platform, unless they are financed 1st party games or the company can count on selling a bazillion copies worldwide (ala Final Fantasy). People tend to get all worked up about exclusives, but they really aren't what they used to be. PS3 is already outselling 360 in the US month to month and their "big" exclusives - Metal Gear, Killzone 2, Gran Tourismo, and Final Fantasy aren't out until this summer, fall, and winter.

[SkinBasket]

Re: PS3

thats why they sold the old xbox's and probably the 360 for less then what it costs to make them. they sold them cheap to get as many out there as they could to sell more games

Here's where the misunderstanding about the system war comes in. The 360 came out a calendar year before the PS3. It was priced at $399 on launch. The HD-DVD addon was I believe $129.

Don't forget Sony sells the PS3 at a much greater loss than Microsoft and the 360. The xbox loses Microsoft 125 bucks per console versus sony losing between 250-300 depending on the model. No one makes money on consoles unless they have the staying power of the PS2 or the Nintendo DS, both of which still outsell the next gen consoles regularly.

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Re: PS3

thats why they sold the old xbox's and probably the 360 for less then what it costs to make them. they sold them cheap to get as many out there as they could to sell more games

Here's where the misunderstanding about the system war comes in. The 360 came out a calendar year before the PS3. It was priced at $399 on launch. The HD-DVD addon was I believe $129.

PS3 launched at $499 with a BluRay player already installed.

The 360 is currently $350 and still lacking any HD movie support without an add-on purchase which is now unsupported by movie studios.

The PS3 is $399 now with BluRay with a rumored price drop coming soon.

If you have an HD-TV and want to watch HD movies, the PS3 is an absolute no brainer. Its the best BluRay player on the market and being that you can hook it up to any standard internet connection you get firmware updates easily. They just released DTS support in the latest system patch.

you can get the basic 360 for $280 right now

and as for no way to watch movies, i'm sure soon enough microsoft will come out with an add on for blue ray like they had for HD-DVD.

probably for about they same price as the hd-dvd.

so you're looking at the systems almost costing the same

also do you have to have a remote to use the blu ray on the ps3? or can you use the controler?

i remember with one of my ps2's i couldn't watch movies because it told me i needed to buy a remote

[Zool]

Re: PS3

you can get the basic 360 for $280 right now
the basic 360 has no hard drive built in so you'll need to buy memory cards to save anything.

and as for no way to watch movies, i'm sure soon enough microsoft will come out with an add on for blue ray like they had for HD-DVD.

probably for about they same price as the hd-dvd.

so you're looking at the systems almost costing the same
again add-on. the PS3 is still the best bluray player on the market

also do you have to have a remote to use the blu ray on the ps3? or can you use the controler?

i remember with one of my ps2's i couldn't watch movies because it told me i needed to buy a remote
controller works just fine and its bluetooth. the remote was only $22 so I bought it anyways. you can turn the system on and off with the remote or the controllers. That in itself is damned cool IMO

I'm no shill for Sony. I resisted the PS3 for all the same reasons everyone has stated. Now that I got one, I'm way happier with it. I hooked up my bluetooth keyboard and mouse and it worked instantly. Its really just a much better planned out system. The 40g model that I have is whisper quiet. Every 360 I've ever heard sounds like a 747. I was a big fan of the xbox over the PS2 and figured I would continue that onto the next gen. Excellent games aside, MS shit the bed on the hardware for the 360.

[SkinBasket]

The biggest thing that's made me stay away from the 360 is the hard drive issue. Microsoft keeps yappin about how downloadable content and media is the way of the future, yet they don't include a hard drive on their basic model, only have 40 gigs on the standard model. and only sell proprietary insanely overpriced upgrades. That's fucked up.

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yeah, i forgot about the hard drive, that set me back $100 for the small one

also, i had to buy a wireless network thingie for another 100. does the ps3 need one?

you can turn the 360 on and off with the controller too, very cool indeed

i have been looking for a reason to buy a ps3, but until that must have ps3 exclusive game comes out, it probably won't happen. i did have both systems from the last gen at the same time. so i really have nothing against sony

RE 5 might be the game that makes me break down

edit. NVM it'll be on the 360 too, sweet

[BallHawk]

also, i had to buy a wireless network thingie for another 100. does the ps3 need one?

Wifi is built into the PS3. Took me two minutest to set it up. Compare that to the hours I've spent screwing around with Xbox Live and it's a very appealing feature.

[BallHawk]

Re: PS3

I'm no shill for Sony. I resisted the PS3 for all the same reasons everyone has stated. Now that I got one, I'm way happier with it. I hooked up my bluetooth keyboard and mouse and it worked instantly. Its really just a much better planned out system. The 40g model that I have is whisper quiet. Every 360 I've ever heard sounds like a 747. I was a big fan of the xbox over the PS2 and figured I would continue that onto the next gen. Excellent games aside, MS shit the bed on the hardware for the 360.

Same way with me, Zool. I'm not a fanboy, but I've always favored Microsoft slightly, compared to Sony. For a long time I've considered the PS3 the biggest joke in a few generations of console gaming.

However, since having bought one and warmed up to it, this console can be just as good as the Xbox 360. Can it be better? I don't think so. Xbox Live is a monster and until PS3 locks up exclusive titles I don't see Sony takin the lead. They can still be neck-and-neck with Microsoft, though, without question.

And agreed with the sound issue. I've got a 40 and I can't hear it unless I'm within a foot or two of it. I can hear my 360 two rooms down the hall from where the console is.

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i see theres a new final fantasy coming out for the ps3 at some point. maybe that will be the must have game for me

i bough the ps1 for ff7 and the ps2 for ff10

[twoseven]

"big" exclusives - Metal Gear

There's my motivation, hope it doesn't blow.

[BallHawk]

"big" exclusives - Metal Gear

There's my motivation, hope it doesn't blow.

There's never been a bad Metal Gear. I expect this one to be the best yet.

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i've owned a couple metal gears, and although they were good, they didn't hit me as something i had to have, or couldn't stop playing

[falco]

best metal gear ever were the ones on nintendo

[Charles Woodson]

Bought a PS3 yesterday when my Xbox broke. Pretty sweet-looking system.

why didn't you just get you xbox fixed?

I had the same problem that you had Red, The Red Rings of Death. Since this happens to about 33% of 360s bought before a certain day (I camped out for mine when it came out so I'm pretty lucky it's lasted this long) Microsoft extended the warranty to 3 years from the date of purchase, basically including everybody.

I'm sending mine back now, but I'm going to be without it for about 4 weeks and I figured that I'm going to buy a PS3 eventually, I might as well buy when my other main console is broken.

MLB 08: The Show is a great game on the PS3. It's like the good old days of MVP Baseball from EA.

Can't wait till MGS4.

don't fret, i started to panic too when i found out it would take over a month to get mine back. and like you i was thinking of a ps3

but it only took 2 weeks

and like 27, i haven't bought a ps3 because they haven't made a good game yet that i can't already get for the 360

except maybe resistance

Yea between me and my 2 brothers we all have 360's, mine and my oldest brothers got the RRofdeath, mine first, then his, and we sent them back, within less than 2 weeks we got them back with a 1 month of live free.
I really never have been a fan of Playstation, never bought one and i dont think i will, like red said i dont think theres a single game specially for PS3 that i wished i could get for xbox

Outta curiosity, not criticizing, why do you all have consoles? Isn't the new xbox like 8 player capable?

All the consoles, like 3 of them? well partial my oldest brother lives in chicago, and my other one is in college in texas, so were not at the same place