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    Kenseth questions Gordon's apology
    By DAVE KALLMANN

    dkallmann@journalsentinel.com
    Posted: July 14, 2006
    Matt Kenseth and Jeff Gordon talked this week but didn't exactly clear the air.

    The two met during testing at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway to discuss Gordon's bump-and-run pass for the lead Sunday in the Nextel Cup Series race at Chicagoland Speedway.

    Kenseth walked away still certain that he got spun on purpose, unsure of where he and the four-time champion stand and as confused as ever about what NASCAR considers acceptable from drivers in terms of bumping, blocking and behavior on restarts.

    "We talked about it after Indy, but honestly when we talked about it, it was kind of one of them things where he came over and apologized but wasn't very apologetic, if you know what I mean," Kenseth said Friday at New Hampshire International Speedway. "He almost acted like he was mad at me."

    Still, Kenseth said, it's time for the two to move on.

    "Somebody's got to be the man about it and forget about it and try to remember what's most important, why we come to the track," said Kenseth, the 2003 champion from Cambridge, Wis. "We come to the track to try and win races and try to win championships.

    "If you're focused on something else, I don't think you're going to do the best job you can at what you're supposed to be doing."

    Gordon, a four-time title-holder, was closing quickly on Kenseth in the waning laps of the USG Sheetrock 400 when they came upon Casey Mears' lapped car. Gordon accelerated more quickly off Turn 2, smacked Kenseth's car in the left rear and sent him spinning.

    Gordon went on to win the race and Kenseth, who had to pit for gas under the resulting caution flag, ended up 22nd. Kenseth held on to second in the points behind Jimmie Johnson, and Gordon climbed to 10th.

    Kenseth didn't see the move as simple desperation from a man trying to qualify for the Chase for the Nextel Cup, NASCAR's 10-man, 10-race pseudo-playoff.

    In Kenseth's mind, the bump was payback for an incident earlier this season at Bristol (Tenn.) Motor Speedway and for the way Kenseth blocked Gordon down to the apron on a restart a few laps earlier at Chicagoland.

    The Bristol episode was a different situation, Kenseth said, because of circumstances and intent, and the restart is an altogether separate argument.

    At Bristol, Kenseth had just been knocked from the lead by Kurt Busch when Gordon nudged him again and passed him. Then Kenseth hit Gordon and spun him, accidentally, Kenseth insisted.

    Bumps happen all the time at a half-mile track such as Bristol, and they don't always lead to spins. It's rare, though, for someone to get rear-ended at a 175-mph mile-and-a-half track, such as Chicagoland, and avoid spinning.

    "I probably hit him half as hard as he hit me at Bristol, and he spun out," Kenseth said. "It was just bad timing, barely touched him, and I was trying to get by him on the last lap, so I think that's quite a bit different. But everybody's going to have their opinions about it."

    Kenseth approached Gordon immediately after the race to apologize, and Gordon responded by shoving him. NASCAR placed both drivers on probation.

    "I look at the Bristol incident and this incident as so similar, and he came up to me and apologized to me and said he was sorry, didn't mean to do it, and I was fuming for a long time after that," Gordon said. "But you have to move on and go on.

    "People can believe me or not but that wasn't payback. It really wasn't. It was racing hard, and it just happened to be a guy that I had an incident with earlier in the season."

    As for the restart at Chicagoland, Kenseth has argued all week that he would not have had to block Gordon if Gordon had not hung back to get a jump. The practice is not allowed by NASCAR but perpetrators rarely are penalized.

    "I felt like he hung way back, and I knew I could get away in a couple of laps," Kenseth said. "I thought that was kind of a cheap way to pass somebody, by holding back, which a lot of people do because they never enforce it."

    Kenseth also had several run-ins this year with two-time and defending champion Tony Stewart.

    Although he would prefer to steer clear of such episodes, Kenseth did concede that conflict is good for the sport in terms of the interest it generates.

    What Kenseth struggles with, though, is NASCAR's reaction.

    "I read (NASCAR President Mike) Helton's comments afterwards, and he said it was a case of a slower car being in front of a faster car and the fast car moved him out of the way, and acted like that was OK," Kenseth said. "So is that OK?

    "Is that OK if somebody gets spun out at Michigan and gets hurt? Is that all right? And, it's the closing laps, is that OK or not OK? Is it not OK halfway through the race?

    "I don't really understand that so I probably need clarification."
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • This is my first year watching Nascar and I am loving it. In trying to figure out who I wanted to root for, I liked that Kenseth is from WI and I love his car. The second race I watched was the one that Stewart basically bumped Kenseth off the track and Kenseth passed him coming out of the pits and flipped him off. AWESOME!! I'm falling in love with Nascar, and the more I watch the more I like it. I see that Kenseth is less than 100 points from the point lead. Could someone explain how winning the championship works?
      "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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      • Basically, it's 26 regular season races. The top 10 drivers get into the playoffs--called "The Chase". Only the top 10 at that time are competing for the championship in the last 10 races. The big thing is to get into The Chase. There's an advantage in points by qualifying higher in the regular season, but it's not anywhere close to insurmountable. The one thing that has not changed with "The Chase" is the importance of being consistent over being a winner. You get a couple of bad results, and it's nearly impossible to make up the difference. That happened to Kenseth last year.

        Other Wisconsin drivers are Scott Wimmer and Todd Kluever. Wimmer runs for a lower tier organization--while Kluever is just getting his feet wet with Rousch Racing. Rousch has grown an affinity for Wisconsin talent--Robbie Reiser, Kenseth's crew chief, is also from Wisconsin.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • harv, don't forget kvapil. he is also from wisconsin. I'm not sure if i misunderstood, but you don't get points for qualifiing.

          4-12-12-4, here is some more info on the chase and points. after the "regular Season" is over the top ten in points (or 400points out of first) advance to The Chase (aka playoffs). the points for these drivers are reset to 5 point increments. first place is 50points higher than tenth place. who ever is in the lead in points at the end of the 10 races is the champion. history has shown that usually you get only one bad race during the chace. anymore and you are out of contention. the rest of the drivers race for 11th place. whoever takes 11th wins $1 million. Initially i was very skeptical of the chase. I thought it was a knee jerk reaction to the fact that kenseth won the championship while only winning one race the previous year. it has really grown on me now. it sound like they are looking at making some changes for next year. some are needed, but nothing drastic.

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          • Originally posted by Little Whiskey
            I'm not sure if i misunderstood, but you don't get points for qualifiing.
            You answered yourself here.

            Originally posted by Little Whiskey
            after the "regular Season" is over the top ten in points (or 400points out of first) advance to The Chase (aka playoffs). the points for these drivers are reset to 5 point increments
            The advantage is minimal, but there is an advantage for what place you are in after the "regular season."
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • Originally posted by Little Whiskey
              harv, don't forget kvapil.
              I didn't realize Kvapil was from Wisconsin also.

              Originally posted by Little Whiskey
              Initially i was very skeptical of the chase. I thought it was a knee jerk reaction to the fact that kenseth won the championship while only winning one race the previous year.
              Yeah, it seems they forgot that he won 5 races the year before and didn't win. Nobody ever points that out. Kenseth never gets the respect he deserves.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Originally posted by Little Whiskey
                harv, don't forget kvapil.
                I didn't realize Kvapil was from Wisconsin also.
                yep, he is from janesville. the other driver i forgot to mention is Paul Menard, even though he accationally drives the cup cars. He is from eau claire.


                4-12-12-4, tell me who you like in football? what players do you like? maybe i can get a better sense of who you like to root for and maybe help you find a driver.

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                • Stewart was at it again - and this time (as I posted above) - his actions not only were dangerous (and admitedly he was responsible) but they took out a second driver (who now has little/no shot at the playoff/raceoff).

                  Dude needs to go the anger management - and if this continues, throw his dumbass out of these races - before he kills somebody (as he fricken predicted!).... now, is deuschbag or or two words???



                  As the defending Nextel Cup champion, the platform is Stewart's to do and say what he wants and he's repeatedly used it this season. But his messages are so mixed that he's struggling to keep his audience.

                  His dire warning at Daytona that someone was going to be killed if NASCAR didn't curb aggressive driving certainly caught everyone's attention, including the sanctioning body, which implemented a policing system.

                  But Stewart was the very first violator of the new guidelines, intentionally crashing into Matt Kenseth during the season-opening race.

                  He then spent the first quarter of the season feuding with Kyle Busch, whom he accused of being too wild on the race track and tuning out Stewart's veteran's advice.

                  And just last week, the driver who wants everyone to give-and-take on the race track refused to give Ryan Newman an inch of space to pass him.
                  The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                  Vince Lombardi

                  "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                  • Stewart is finger pointer. never takes responsiblity. if he doesn't give some one room, thats because that is how they race. if someone doesn't give him room, he wrecks them. he needs to be sat down for a couple weeks. no doubt homedepot will put alot of pressure on gibbs to solve his "problem" The thing about nascar is that every drive and owner answer to someone. that is the sponser who answers to the fans. no other sport has that responsiblity. big dollar sponser are hard to come by, if nascar sits stewart they don't get the advertising that they paid for and they will find a competitive driver who will not get them left out on sundays. this is all contingent on Nascar wanting to stop his type of driving. the only other way to fix this problem is to let the drivers self police. It will happen. Stewart will get his. if you make too many enemies, you won't finish well. there are ways to make it a "racing deal" when they take him out. I was surprised they parked him for a lap. but really what did that do?? he had a top car and easily made up the lap, since his penalty came early enough in the race.

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                    • Kenseth had a solid car and a good pit crew. By the end, Jimmie Johnson and his team made the necessary adjustments and had a dominant car. Matt beat himself up a bit for getting caught up in lapped traffic, but it was pretty inevitable that Johnson was going to pass him. Kenseth did well to hold off a couple of cars that were a little faster at the end.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • I agree with you harv, even if kenseth were able to get thru traffic cleaner, i doubt he would have been able to hold off or catch johnson. if there had been another caution with those two up front kenseth might have been able to pass jimmie, and block him for a victory, but jimmie's car was tops in the field.

                        this weeks race is watkins glenn. the other road course. tough to pass.

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                        • I can't believe Harvick passed Stewart, I thought Stewart had it won. By the way, I don't care for Stewart, as I am a Kenseth follower, but I am new to Nascar and I was bitching to a buddy of mine about Stewart's agressive style, and he said that everyone who says that about him are a bunch of hypocrites, because he drives the same way Earnhardt Sr. drove, and he was a hero, and considered one of the greatest of all time. I never saw him, is there truth to that?
                          "...one thing about me during the course of a game, I get emotional and say things my grandmother lets me know about later. But nobody wants to win on that field anymore than I do, no one." Brett Favre

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                          • 4th, the thing is that not everyone used to adore Sr. they way they seem to now. in a way his tragic death immortalized him. and everyone who was a nascar or closet nascar fan automatically became a fan after his death. i'm trying to think of a football example, but am drawing a blank right now. oh i got one. think of him along the lines of pat tillman. once he was killed in action, everyone became a fan of his. it is very similar to they way everyone adores Darrel Waltrip. back when he was racing he wasn't liked by all. now he is the lovable idiot. times change people's minds.

                            the other thing is that just because you drive "aggresive" doesn't mean that they should be mentioned in the same breath as Sr. the only other driver to have as many championships as Dale Sr. is Richard Petty. and even a newby to the sport as you claim, i bet you have heard of him before. Kevin Harvick and Kurt Busch drove "aggresive" (some would agrue reckless). i wouldn't mention their names in the same list as Sr. I believe these two drivers have gotten a bit of preasure from their sponsers and owners to behave on the track or else. if they put this same presure on stewart, i would guess that he would change his attitude.

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                            • Personally, I despised Earnhardt Sr. before his death. I like his son more. He seems to be pretty grounded for a rich kid. That tells me Sr. or his Mom did a good job raising him.
                              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                              • Who is Jeff Burton?
                                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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