Whoopi

[Deputy Nutz]

Another point Ziggy, if the fetus is in the belly it is still totally dependent on the mama.

[MJZiggy]

Another point Ziggy, if the fetus is in the belly it is still totally dependent on the mama.

Unless you induce labor. The minute the baby is out, premature or not, it is no longer dependent on mama. No need to kill it.

[SkinBasket]

I'm having flash-backs to my sophomore year Social Ethics class and all the stupid ass, misapplied, and poorly constructed analogies I had to sit through - almost all of them made by the instructor for the course. Nice guy, but not a very agile thinker for being a Philosophy Masters student. It might have been his attempt at the white-man afro. We did get to watch porn as part of the class however. Of course it was voiced over by some femi-nazis claiming the girls making a very very comfortable living having sex on film while having make-up people attend to their nether regions between takes were in essence being raped by all men who watch porn. Ah well, who watches porn for the dialog* anyway?



*Jesus madtown, nice dictionary. Now I can't spell dialogue the proper way without the little fricken red line jumpin on my cock? What is this, some Ebonics* dictionary?

*Holy shit. I've got to capitalize Ebonics now? This is a ghetto dictionary.

[MJZiggy]

*I think that's the FF dictionary. As far as I know Mad has no dictionary.

[Deputy Nutz]

Socially I support the right to abortion simply because in some situations babies are being brought into an under developed socio economical class in society and that baby will struggle to have basic needs met throughout its life. It will become a suck hole on the community and will most likely depend more on government cheese than on its own parents. Very few children come into a loving and caring environment under these conditions. It is difficult then for these children to learn and then become a contributing member of society.

The less money that goes from my pocket to those of a crackhead that can't popping out babies one after the other because she can't figure out how to protect herself the better. This sounds harsh but take a few hours and go to the Children's Court of Milwaukee County and although you probably can't sit in the court room you can at least look at the people entering and exiting and wonder if you would enjoy having them as your parents.

Here is a little story for you,

A 15 year old inner city girl who is raised by a single mother and has never known her father comes home from school and throws up in the toilet. Mama comes upstairs because she isn't wasting her time working at McDonalds for 7.50 an hour when the county and state pays her rent, food, medical, and other expenses because other than the girl mentioned above she has 5 other kids, and she is only 33 years old herself.

Well Mama asks if her 15 year old daughter has been messing around with any boys, and the girl says "yes ma I have. I went to Betty's house on Friday after school and a couple of her older brother's friends came over, and they had use drink some beer and then one of them past around some weed and we got high. I liked this one guy and we went in the back bedroom and had sex."

Mama takes the girl to the clinic and low and behold she is pregnant. The government will already pay for all the medical expenses to have the baby, but in some cases they won't provide the funding for an abortion.

Well the 15 year old girl already falls behind in school because she just doesn't feel well enough to go everyday, and at the end of the school her she can't even take her standardized testing because she is in the hospital giving birth. Regardless it is still a magical moment, but the girl also realizes everything she has already given up, the baby is viewed as a mistake, and now 16 she still has difficulty with her life as a mom and feels jealousness, and even hatred towards the baby along with several other emotions.

Grandma will of course help out so the young girl can continue school, but grandma has her own kids to take care of. the young girl still wants to hang out with her friends and meet boys, and she admits that drinking and drugs are fun and why should she with hold, her friends are doing them and she should be able to, she doesn't understand the responsibility that is waiting for her at home.

The baby develops asthma because people are constantly smoking in the house, and because of the asthma it has a hard time sleeping and is constantly grumpy and agitated. The baby cries alot, wanting to be nurtured by its mommy, but where is mommy? She is out with her high school friends. High School, the young daughter had to drop out because she was held back, and was embarrassed, she has tried getting a job at a fast food resturant but she hates going to work at night because thats when all the fun parties are taking place.

The finally gets diagnosed with asthma, and gets put on disability which gets signed over to the mother, the young mother now has a steady income of 524.00 dollars a month to spend on cloths, beer, and drugs. The drug use gets heavier and heavier, and the baby sees his mother less and less, the baby is usually taken care of by some relative but it doesn't really matter.

The young mother gets kicked out of the house when her mother becomes pregnant again. She moves into an apartment with another mother from high school. She is also expecting another baby at the age of 19, and is also addicted to crack. The new baby is born a crackhead, and the mother then receives a disability check for that child as well. The disability money goes to crack and nothing else.

The older child is now four and has barely a shred of clothing to wear, and has learned to fight with the other children for the scrapes of food that are left laying around the house. The mother is gone for hours at a time leaving a four year old and a young infant alone.

Summer arrives but with it no food. The four year old gets his hands on a package of raw chicken which he hides in the linen closet away from the other children in the house, he lives on the raw chicken for weeks.

The infant is left motherless for hours, going hungry while left locked in one of the bedrooms.

The mother gets pregnant again. More crack

The mother comes home late in the morning on a very hot day after a long night of parties and crack. The young infant isn't moving in the bedroom, but the mother doesn't notice as she passes out on the bed for hours. She wakes up and call it motherly instinct she checks on the baby, it is still not moving, or for that matter breathing.

She calls 911, the paramedics come but can do nothing, the baby has been dead for more than a day due to starvation and dehydration.

Mother is arrested for neglect. 4 year old is placed in foster are after being treated at Children's Hospital for a number of infections and infestations.

Would abortion solved the situation? In the long run probably not, but was it considered an option? Was this girl's future considered? Did this girl even have a future?

[MJZiggy]

Nutz, if you never read the book Freakonomics, there's a chapter in there you would be fascinated with...

[Deputy Nutz]

I read the book. It is good.

[MJZiggy]

Your story reminded me of the chapter on the correlation between the crime rate in the 90's and abortion.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Who gives a crap about what Whoopi said. Just keep showing more Elizabeth Hasselbeck!

[GBRulz]

I see her hubby is now unemployed. Unless another team picked him up after the Giants cut him.

[SkinBasket]

The other problem I have is that the whoopster can call dog fighting a deep south black cultural thing, but if I say black people like fried chicken I get called a racist somehow. I think fried chicken has more to do with southern black culture than dog fighting, but I guess I could be wrong.

[packinpatland]

The other problem I have is that the whoopster can call dog fighting a deep south black cultural thing, but if I say black people like fried chicken I get called a racist somehow. I think fried chicken has more to do with southern black culture than dog fighting, but I guess I could be wrong.

In her defense she said:
"from where he comes from" in the South, dogfighting isn't that unusual.

She didn't say:
dog fighting a deep south black cultural thing

I don't like in essense what she said, but I don't think she brought race into it.

[Scott Campbell]

What the hell was Ted Danson thinking?

[Deputy Nutz]

I see her hubby is now unemployed. Unless another team picked him up after the Giants cut him.

I thought Whoopi was a Lesbian? I didn't know she was married to an NFL football player.

[Freak Out]

What the hell was Ted Danson thinking?

Is he still banging the Whoopster?