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  • #16
    Origin
    The origin of irregardless is not known for certain, but the consensus among references is that it is a blend of irrespective and regardless, both of which are commonly accepted standard English words. By blending these words, an illogical word is created. "Since the prefix ir- means 'not' (as it does with irrespective), and the suffix -less means 'without,' irregardless is a double negative."[1]. (Cf. inflammable, flammable.) However, such double negatives are already found in the language in such words as debone and unravel.

    Irregardless is primarily found in North America, most notably in Boston and surrounding areas, according to the Oxford English Dictionary, and was first acknowledged in 1912 by the Wentworth American Dialect Dictionary as originating from western Indiana. Barely a decade later, the usage dispute over irregardless was such that, in 1923, Literary Digest published an article titled "Is There Such a Word as Irregardless in the English Language?"[2]


    [edit] Appearance in reference books
    One way to follow the progress of and sentiments toward irregardless is by studying how it is described in references throughout the twentieth century. Webster’s New International Dictionary (2nd. Ed. Unabridged) described the word as an erroneous or humorous form of regardless, and attributed it to the United States. Although irregardless was beginning to make its way into the American lexicon, it still was not universally recognized and was missing completely from Fowler's Modern English Usage,[3] published in 1965, nor is irregardless mentioned under the entry for regardless therein. In the last twenty-five years, irregardless has become a common entry in dictionaries and usage reference books. It appears in a wide range of dictionaries including: Webster's Third New International Dictionary of the English Language Unabridged (1961, repr. 2002),[4] The Barnhart Dictionary of Etymology (1988), The American Heritage Dictionary (Second College Edition, 1991),[5] Microsoft Encarta College Dictionary (2001), and Webster’s New World College Dictionary (Fourth Edition, 2004).[6]This word was first seen in print in the Gordon family anthology.


    [edit] Prescriptive vs. descriptive
    The approach taken by lexicographers when documenting a word's uses and limitations can be prescriptive or descriptive. The method used with irregardless is overwhelmingly prescriptive. Much of the criticism comes from the illogical double negative pairing of the prefix (ir-) and suffix (-less), and the argument that irregardless is not, or should not be, a word at all because it lacks the antecedents of a "bona fide nonstandard word." A counterexample is provided in ain't, which has an "ancient genealogy," at which scholars would not dare level such criticisms.[1]

    The descriptive approach to "irregardless" is to note that it is considered nonstandard by educated people.


    [edit] Summary
    Irregardless seems to be moving slowly in the direction of standardization.[citation needed] It has gone from nonexistence in the 1910 publication of Etymological Dictionary of the English Language,[7] to being a normality in modern dictionary publications, and it frequently occurs in edited professional prose. The fact that its listing as a "humorous usage" has practically disappeared today supplies further evidence in favor of acceptance. However, strong resistance to this word still remains. Australian linguist Pam Peters (The Cambridge Guide to English Usage, 2004) suggests that irregardless has become fetishized, since natural examples of this word in corpora of written and spoken English are greatly outnumbered by examples where it is in fact only cited as an incorrect term.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns
      Originally posted by oregonpackfan
      Last week, I brought up that several African-American leaders were bringing up the race card re: the prosecution of Micheal Vick.

      Several of you poo-pooed the report stating they had never heard of this accusation.

      The charges of dog-fighting, gambling, and organized crime apply to Vick irregardless of his race or color. He should not be prosecuted any more or any less because of his race. He should be be recused of these crimes any more or any less because of his race.
      Weren't you a former teacher? Geez, might be time for a refresher. No such word as irregardless.
      Please see the quote about "irregardless," Tyrone.

      ",,,both of which are commonly accepted standard English words."

      Who needs the refresher course on grammar?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kiwon
        It will be a good day when Jackson and the other "Civil Rights" era folks are off the scene. Then maybe you might witness a more reasoned dialogue.
        Pardon? The "Civil Rights" era folks went out and fought for what was right and just in a time when it was extremely dangerous to do so and many in the COUNTRY were opposed to equal rights and justice. You may not like Jesse and some of stands he has taken over the years but lumping all the Civil Rights era folks together is wrong. They are/were brave Americans when many were cowardly.
        C.H.U.D.

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        • #19
          Re: It was only a matter of time.......

          Originally posted by mraynrand
          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
          Originally posted by mraynrand
          But name me one other super high profile guy like Vick who got busted for running dog fighting rings.
          This is not directly relevant. But LeShon Johnson was a co-owner of very large dogfighting ring, and he got a 5-year suspended sentence, I don't think he did any prison time.

          http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=7863
          Of course it's relevant. Or would you argue that high-profile people are treated the same as low profile. It's far more likely that Vick was treated more harshly to set an example than due to racism.
          We're dealing with a confusing mix of race and class. I agree with you, Vick got the hammer from the prosecutor (and public) partially because he comes from the rich entertainer class, not because he is black. (I shouldn't have said the Leshon Johnson case was "irrelevant", I just meant it wasn't relevant to the black-white comparison)

          Also, I beleive the prosecutors didn't want the case to go to trial because Vick is a rich guy who can afford fancy, attention-seeking attorneys. Like with OJ, he might have gotten off.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Freak Out
            Originally posted by Kiwon
            It will be a good day when Jackson and the other "Civil Rights" era folks are off the scene. Then maybe you might witness a more reasoned dialogue.
            Pardon? The "Civil Rights" era folks went out and fought for what was right and just in a time when it was extremely dangerous to do so and many in the COUNTRY were opposed to equal rights and justice. You may not like Jesse and some of stands he has taken over the years but lumping all the Civil Rights era folks together is wrong. They are/were brave Americans when many were cowardly.
            Anyone who was around in the 1950's and marched with King is generally considered as part of the Civil Rights era generation. It was a grassroots movement and much good was accomplished.

            Now, 50 years later, we still have Jesse Jackson, Joseph Lowery, John Lewis, and Julian Bond around and each claiming to represent King and the Civil Rights movement in general.

            What notable accomplishments have these men performed in the last 20 years that have contributed to the benefit of Blacks? Can you name any? I can't think of one.

            As the American society has progressed and become more color-blind, they continue to perpetuate the permanent "victimhood" status of Blacks by maintaining a 1950-60's mentality. It's 2007 but they don't want to know it or acknowledge any progress because if they do, they become less relevant and lose their notoriety.

            Andrew Young is a lone, rare exception of a Civil Rights era leader that actually broadened or maintained King's message of equal rights for all, not special rights for one race of people.

            My focus was on the "leaders" of the Civil Rights Movement and what they represent today, not the common person who lived through that time.

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