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  • #16
    Originally posted by Partial
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/282415/Awesome-Military-photos-of-the-Twin-Towers


    That is very sad to look back at it.

    The pictures with the people jumping out of the windows makes me physically sick. Whether its right or wrong, I want revenge.
    Wow, I have never seen alot of those pictures. Unbelievable.

    There were two things that bothered me more than anything else that day. One, seeing the people jumping out of windows. #2 was that Palestinians dancing around and celebrating in the street after they heard what happened. Namely, that one woman with the glasses.... God, i wanted to kick her effing ass.

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    • #17
      I will never forget her.
      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MJZiggy
        I will never forget her.
        I think of her and then think of the people protesting going to war (Afganistan, not Iraq) and it just makes me angry.

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        • #19
          I was a freshman in high school. I was in Theology, my first class of the day, when I heard about it..The principal said, "there have been a series of terrorist attacks on the United States."

          Two days ago, MSNBC replayed the media coverage from the day it happened...Katie Couric, Tom Brokaw, Jim Miklashevski, Matt Lauer...I honestly felt like it was that day all over again..

          I remember the footage of the palestinians dancing..It STILL pisses me off..

          I haven't looked at the photos that partial linked, I'm sure they're incredible..But I remember a pic from a magazine a couple days after it happened..I think it was TIME..It showed the people looking down out the window, deciding which was a better way to die...Jumping, or dying in the fire..

          The anniversary of 9/11 always hits me hard..One of the toughest days of the year for me...

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          • #20
            This song brought tears to the eyes.

            ALAN JACKSON

            "Where Were You (When The World Stopped Turning)"

            Where were you when the world stopped turning that September day
            Out in the yard with your wife and children
            Working on some stage in LA
            Did you stand there in shock at the site of
            That black smoke rising against that blue sky
            Did you shout out in anger
            In fear for your neighbor
            Or did you just sit down and cry

            Did you weep for the children
            Who lost their dear loved ones
            And pray for the ones who don't know
            Did you rejoice for the people who walked from the rubble
            And sob for the ones left below

            Did you burst out in pride
            For the red white and blue
            The heroes who died just doing what they do
            Did you look up to heaven for some kind of answer
            And look at yourself to what really matters

            I'm just a singer of simple songs
            I'm not a real political man
            I watch CNN but I'm not sure I can tell you
            The difference in Iraq and Iran
            But I know Jesus and I talk to God
            And I remember this from when I was young
            Faith hope and love are some good things he gave us
            And the greatest is love

            Where were you when the world stopped turning that September day
            Teaching a class full of innocent children
            Driving down some cold interstate
            Did you feel guilty cause you're a survivor
            In a crowded room did you feel alone
            Did you call up your mother and tell her you love her
            Did you dust off that bible at home
            Did you open your eyes and hope it never happened
            Close your eyes and not go to sleep
            Did you notice the sunset the first time in ages
            Speak with some stranger on the street
            Did you lay down at night and think of tomorrow
            Go out and buy you a gun
            Did you turn off that violent old movie you're watching
            And turn on "I Love Lucy" reruns
            Did you go to a church and hold hands with some stranger
            Stand in line and give your own blood
            Did you just stay home and cling tight to your family
            Thank God you had somebody to love

            I'm just a singer of simple songs
            I'm not a real political man
            I watch CNN but I'm not sure I can tell you
            The difference in Iraq and Iran
            But I know Jesus and I talk to God
            And I remember this from when I was young
            Faith hope and love are some good things he gave us
            And the greatest is love

            I'm just a singer of simple songs
            I'm not a real political man
            I watch CNN but I'm not sure I can tell you
            The difference in Iraq and Iran
            But I know Jesus and I talk to God
            And I remember this from when I was young
            Faith hope and love are some good things he gave us
            And the greatest is love

            The greatest is love
            The greatest is love

            Where were you when the world stopped turning that September day

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            • #21
              How can I ever forget.

              New York
              Washington
              Pennsylvania

              Bali

              Madrid

              London

              Plus numerous other acts of terror worldwide.

              Just ask Spain, England & the rest of Europe/world about the history of terror and bombings. US is not alone on this; don't you get news from outside of the Bush controlled media?

              A big terror network was arrested & disbanded here in Denmark not 2 weeks ago. The bombs were ready; the plans were in the making - an act of terror was avoided. It's real.

              US National guard, Danish troops, English troops getting blown up in Iraq; the US National Guard is not geared to be in Iraq - you need skilled soldiers. It's a slaughter.

              Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Partial
                http://www.scribd.com/doc/282415/Awesome-Military-photos-of-the-Twin-Towers


                That is very sad to look back at it.

                The pictures with the people jumping out of the windows makes me physically sick. Whether its right or wrong, I want revenge.
                You are entitled to your sovereign opinion & your emotionally, not rationally, reaction which will results in your need for revenge.

                I hate to say it but people with reasoning won't listen to you...or guys like Bin Laden. Only people living in fear or fanatics will listen to the drums of revenge. For all I care; you can sail your own sinking ship of vengeance and make some room for the "angry gods".

                Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them. Lastly, adversity doesn't build character. It reveals character as Lombardi once said...character revealed.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mmmdk
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  http://www.scribd.com/doc/282415/Awesome-Military-photos-of-the-Twin-Towers


                  That is very sad to look back at it.

                  The pictures with the people jumping out of the windows makes me physically sick. Whether its right or wrong, I want revenge.
                  You are entitled to your sovereign opinion & your emotionally, not rationally, reaction which will results in your need for revenge.

                  I hate to say it but people with reasoning won't listen to you...or guys like Bin Laden. Only people living in fear or fanatics will listen to the drums of revenge. For all I care; you can sail your own sinking ship of vengeance and make some room for the "angry gods".

                  Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them. Lastly, adversity doesn't build character. It reveals character as Lombardi once said...character revealed.
                  That's a load of BS. I am not a bad person or am in the wrong for still wanting those who killed 5k+ americans, crippled our economy, etc to pay for what they did. These groups would do it again in a heart beat if they had the opportunity. That is a scary thought as I would much rather have a few dead terrorists and extremists than a few dead members of partial's family. That doesn't make me a bad person, that makes me a good, caring person.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by mmmdk
                    How can I ever forget.

                    New York
                    Washington
                    Pennsylvania

                    Bali

                    Madrid

                    London

                    Plus numerous other acts of terror worldwide.

                    Just ask Spain, England & the rest of Europe/world about the history of terror and bombings. US is not alone on this; don't you get news from outside of the Bush controlled media?

                    A big terror network was arrested & disbanded here in Denmark not 2 weeks ago. The bombs were ready; the plans were in the making - an act of terror was avoided. It's real.

                    US National guard, Danish troops, English troops getting blown up in Iraq; the US National Guard is not geared to be in Iraq - you need skilled soldiers. It's a slaughter.

                    Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them.
                    Of course we get outside media, but until it hits you at home, it doesnt have the same impact. We get 90% news about our own country and 10% about the outside world, and I would be willing to bet its the same in most countries.

                    I'm more concerned with things that happen in my backyard. Take care of your own first is a human trait not an American trait.
                    Originally posted by 3irty1
                    This is museum quality stupidity.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      Originally posted by mmmdk
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      http://www.scribd.com/doc/282415/Awesome-Military-photos-of-the-Twin-Towers


                      That is very sad to look back at it.

                      The pictures with the people jumping out of the windows makes me physically sick. Whether its right or wrong, I want revenge.
                      You are entitled to your sovereign opinion & your emotionally, not rationally, reaction which will results in your need for revenge.

                      I hate to say it but people with reasoning won't listen to you...or guys like Bin Laden. Only people living in fear or fanatics will listen to the drums of revenge. For all I care; you can sail your own sinking ship of vengeance and make some room for the "angry gods".

                      Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them. Lastly, adversity doesn't build character. It reveals character as Lombardi once said...character revealed.
                      That's a load of BS. I am not a bad person or am in the wrong for still wanting those who killed 5k+ americans, crippled our economy, etc to pay for what they did. These groups would do it again in a heart beat if they had the opportunity. That is a scary thought as I would much rather have a few dead terrorists and extremists than a few dead members of partial's family. That doesn't make me a bad person, that makes me a good, caring person.
                      No, it's not BS. And I don't think you're a bad person either. You just ride the quick fix; America, DENMARK and most of western Europe want the quick fix. Won't happen. I'm half American; born in Phoenix and I'm against any form of terror. But I don't believe in the quick fix called "revenge". That's basically it.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Zool
                        Originally posted by mmmdk
                        How can I ever forget.

                        New York
                        Washington
                        Pennsylvania

                        Bali

                        Madrid

                        London

                        Plus numerous other acts of terror worldwide.

                        Just ask Spain, England & the rest of Europe/world about the history of terror and bombings. US is not alone on this; don't you get news from outside of the Bush controlled media?

                        A big terror network was arrested & disbanded here in Denmark not 2 weeks ago. The bombs were ready; the plans were in the making - an act of terror was avoided. It's real.

                        US National guard, Danish troops, English troops getting blown up in Iraq; the US National Guard is not geared to be in Iraq - you need skilled soldiers. It's a slaughter.

                        Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them.
                        Of course we get outside media, but until it hits you at home, it doesnt have the same impact. We get 90% news about our own country and 10% about the outside world, and I would be willing to bet its the same in most countries.

                        I'm more concerned with things that happen in my backyard. Take care of your own first is a human trait not an American trait.
                        I think you're (almost) right about the 90% domestic vs. 10% foreign news. That goes for the big countries in Europe too (England, Spain, France & Italy) not so much Germany. In England BBC does a lot of good news work. Small countries like Holland, Denmark, Sweden etc. has to, somewhat, keep up with the world. It's more like 70% dom. 30% fereign but during the Danish presense in Iraq, well, it's been more like 50% / 50% at times. it's common that Danes have ALL the news channels from Europe - we even get some USA, Turkey and that Al Jazzera (spell?) channels these days. I don't understand a word from the Arabic channels but I do, occationally, surf them.

                        About the US backyard; does South America count!? If you take care of other people or even nations then you might learn something about yourself - and hence take better care of your self.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by mmmdk
                          Originally posted by Zool
                          Originally posted by mmmdk
                          How can I ever forget.

                          New York
                          Washington
                          Pennsylvania

                          Bali

                          Madrid

                          London

                          Plus numerous other acts of terror worldwide.

                          Just ask Spain, England & the rest of Europe/world about the history of terror and bombings. US is not alone on this; don't you get news from outside of the Bush controlled media?

                          A big terror network was arrested & disbanded here in Denmark not 2 weeks ago. The bombs were ready; the plans were in the making - an act of terror was avoided. It's real.

                          US National guard, Danish troops, English troops getting blown up in Iraq; the US National Guard is not geared to be in Iraq - you need skilled soldiers. It's a slaughter.

                          Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them.
                          Of course we get outside media, but until it hits you at home, it doesnt have the same impact. We get 90% news about our own country and 10% about the outside world, and I would be willing to bet its the same in most countries.

                          I'm more concerned with things that happen in my backyard. Take care of your own first is a human trait not an American trait.
                          I think you're (almost) right about the 90% domestic vs. 10% foreign news. That goes for the big countries in Europe too (England, Spain, France & Italy) not so much Germany. In England BBC does a lot of good news work. Small countries like Holland, Denmark, Sweden etc. has to, somewhat, keep up with the world. It's more like 70% dom. 30% fereign but during the Danish presense in Iraq, well, it's been more like 50% / 50% at times. it's common that Danes have ALL the news channels from Europe - we even get some USA, Turkey and that Al Jazzera (spell?) channels these days. I don't understand a word from the Arabic channels but I do, occationally, surf them.

                          About the US backyard; does South America count!? If you take care of other people or even nations then you might learn something about yourself - and hence take better care of your self.
                          So the US should police the world? I disagree.
                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          This is museum quality stupidity.

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                          • #28
                            Ok, gotta go - I just think some needed a nudge. I myself need a nudge - from time to time. No biggie - just opinions.

                            The world is changing - Asia is rising, Russia will too. Europe needs America, America needs Europe - in my book that is! The world doesn't need America to be a hotrod nation with their head under the arm. Is Europe better? I think history is a testament to that, where we are now and where we are headed; I stongly believe we have learned from our mistakes - but we still got a long ways to. A long way.
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Zool
                              Originally posted by mmmdk
                              Originally posted by Zool
                              Originally posted by mmmdk
                              How can I ever forget.

                              New York
                              Washington
                              Pennsylvania

                              Bali

                              Madrid

                              London

                              Plus numerous other acts of terror worldwide.

                              Just ask Spain, England & the rest of Europe/world about the history of terror and bombings. US is not alone on this; don't you get news from outside of the Bush controlled media?

                              A big terror network was arrested & disbanded here in Denmark not 2 weeks ago. The bombs were ready; the plans were in the making - an act of terror was avoided. It's real.

                              US National guard, Danish troops, English troops getting blown up in Iraq; the US National Guard is not geared to be in Iraq - you need skilled soldiers. It's a slaughter.

                              Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them.
                              Of course we get outside media, but until it hits you at home, it doesnt have the same impact. We get 90% news about our own country and 10% about the outside world, and I would be willing to bet its the same in most countries.

                              I'm more concerned with things that happen in my backyard. Take care of your own first is a human trait not an American trait.
                              I think you're (almost) right about the 90% domestic vs. 10% foreign news. That goes for the big countries in Europe too (England, Spain, France & Italy) not so much Germany. In England BBC does a lot of good news work. Small countries like Holland, Denmark, Sweden etc. has to, somewhat, keep up with the world. It's more like 70% dom. 30% fereign but during the Danish presense in Iraq, well, it's been more like 50% / 50% at times. it's common that Danes have ALL the news channels from Europe - we even get some USA, Turkey and that Al Jazzera (spell?) channels these days. I don't understand a word from the Arabic channels but I do, occationally, surf them.

                              About the US backyard; does South America count!? If you take care of other people or even nations then you might learn something about yourself - and hence take better care of your self.
                              So the US should police the world? I disagree.
                              Well...that's a tough Q. No, not as of now but fighting terror is important but be more cool headed about it. Screw John Wayne!!!

                              Hmm...you don't have to police to help, say, some African countries. My god, the west have expoited Africa for years - give'em the opportunity to grow. Africa is a mess. Big mess.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by mmmdk
                                Originally posted by Zool
                                Originally posted by mmmdk
                                Originally posted by Zool
                                Originally posted by mmmdk
                                How can I ever forget.

                                New York
                                Washington
                                Pennsylvania

                                Bali

                                Madrid

                                London

                                Plus numerous other acts of terror worldwide.

                                Just ask Spain, England & the rest of Europe/world about the history of terror and bombings. US is not alone on this; don't you get news from outside of the Bush controlled media?

                                A big terror network was arrested & disbanded here in Denmark not 2 weeks ago. The bombs were ready; the plans were in the making - an act of terror was avoided. It's real.

                                US National guard, Danish troops, English troops getting blown up in Iraq; the US National Guard is not geared to be in Iraq - you need skilled soldiers. It's a slaughter.

                                Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them.
                                Of course we get outside media, but until it hits you at home, it doesnt have the same impact. We get 90% news about our own country and 10% about the outside world, and I would be willing to bet its the same in most countries.

                                I'm more concerned with things that happen in my backyard. Take care of your own first is a human trait not an American trait.
                                I think you're (almost) right about the 90% domestic vs. 10% foreign news. That goes for the big countries in Europe too (England, Spain, France & Italy) not so much Germany. In England BBC does a lot of good news work. Small countries like Holland, Denmark, Sweden etc. has to, somewhat, keep up with the world. It's more like 70% dom. 30% fereign but during the Danish presense in Iraq, well, it's been more like 50% / 50% at times. it's common that Danes have ALL the news channels from Europe - we even get some USA, Turkey and that Al Jazzera (spell?) channels these days. I don't understand a word from the Arabic channels but I do, occationally, surf them.

                                About the US backyard; does South America count!? If you take care of other people or even nations then you might learn something about yourself - and hence take better care of your self.
                                So the US should police the world? I disagree.
                                Well...that's a tough Q. No, not as of now but fighting terror is important but be more cool headed about it. Screw John Wayne!!!

                                Hmm...you don't have to police to help, say, some African countries. My god, the west have expoited Africa for years - give'em the opportunity to grow. Africa is a mess. Big mess.
                                Didnt Germany try to take over once? Didnt England press their "rights" at one point in history. Let us make our mistakes plz. Its our turn.
                                Originally posted by 3irty1
                                This is museum quality stupidity.

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