9-11...six years later

[Deputy Nutz]

I don't want to make anymore mistakes.

Revenge is nice, if you have never killed something out of pure revenge or vengeance your missing out.

[mmmdk]

How can I ever forget.

New York
Washington
Pennsylvania

Bali

Madrid

London

Plus numerous other acts of terror worldwide.

Just ask Spain, England & the rest of Europe/world about the history of terror and bombings. US is not alone on this; don't you get news from outside of the Bush controlled media?

A big terror network was arrested & disbanded here in Denmark not 2 weeks ago. The bombs were ready; the plans were in the making - an act of terror was avoided. It's real.

US National guard, Danish troops, English troops getting blown up in Iraq; the US National Guard is not geared to be in Iraq - you need skilled soldiers. It's a slaughter.

Gotta be stern versus threats like terror but never succumb to their nature or you become them.

Of course we get outside media, but until it hits you at home, it doesnt have the same impact. We get 90% news about our own country and 10% about the outside world, and I would be willing to bet its the same in most countries.

I'm more concerned with things that happen in my backyard. Take care of your own first is a human trait not an American trait.

I think you're (almost) right about the 90% domestic vs. 10% foreign news. That goes for the big countries in Europe too (England, Spain, France & Italy) not so much Germany. In England BBC does a lot of good news work. Small countries like Holland, Denmark, Sweden etc. has to, somewhat, keep up with the world. It's more like 70% dom. 30% fereign but during the Danish presense in Iraq, well, it's been more like 50% / 50% at times. it's common that Danes have ALL the news channels from Europe - we even get some USA, Turkey and that Al Jazzera (spell?) channels these days. I don't understand a word from the Arabic channels but I do, occationally, surf them.

About the US backyard; does South America count!? If you take care of other people or even nations then you might learn something about yourself - and hence take better care of your self.

So the US should police the world? I disagree.

Well...that's a tough Q. No, not as of now but fighting terror is important but be more cool headed about it. Screw John Wayne!!!

Hmm...you don't have to police to help, say, some African countries. My god, the west have expoited Africa for years - give'em the opportunity to grow. Africa is a mess. Big mess.

Didnt Germany try to take over once? Didnt England press their "rights" at one point in history. Let us make our mistakes plz. Its our turn.

Ah, very true. I think you "get me", I couldn't possibly live without America - it is a big part of my life.

My grandfather was with the Danish resistance during WWII. He helped bomb, plant bombs on Nazi planes - he got caught during an operation and went to Neuengammen in '44. He survived. He always pointed out that America was our most important ally - Europe was divided post WWII - some pro US, some pro Soviet but most were pro America even in Eastern Europe. My family went to the US in '65 and went back to Denmark in '75. Which, somewhat, explains my Packer relation. My family lived in the US during part of the Lombardi era and the SB wins.

If you knew me better you'd know that I almost always must defend America here in Denmark or to other Europeans. I've lived (also born there) in Arizona, visited cities all over the US numerous times but the Euro criticism is from people who know zilch about America - and most often have never been to the US.

So why (now) the harsh words on the US? I know history and I know brave men helped Europe in our deepest hour of need but I think America has changed since WWII - both for better and worse. I think America, domestically, that they're in trouble with the vast amount of working poor or simply poor people. Americans are pretty aggressive these days; highly strung! Well, I've got high expectations towards America and I know I get too emotional and let my words rip. I wanna be rational - all the time...it's that American temper of mine, I guess

The good thing about America is that you can count on them - if the shit hits the fan - I just know it!

[Zool]

Ah, very true. I think you "get me", I couldn't possibly live without America - it is a big part of my life.

My grandfather was with the Danish resistance during WWII. He helped bomb, plant bombs on Nazi planes - he got caught during an operation and went to Neuengammen in '44. He survived. He always pointed out that America was our most important ally - Europe was divided post WWII - some pro US, some pro Soviet but most were pro America even in Eastern Europe. My family went to the US in '65 and went back to Denmark in '75. Which, somewhat, explains my Packer relation. My family lived in the US during part of the Lombardi era and the SB wins.

If you knew me better you'd know that I almost always must defend America here in Denmark or to other Europeans. I've lived (also born there) in Arizona, visited cities all over the US numerous times but the Euro criticism is from people who know zilch about America - and most often have never been to the US.

So why (now) the harsh words on the US? I know history and I know brave men helped Europe in our deepest hour of need but I think America has changed since WWII - both for better and worse. I think America, domestically, that they're in trouble with the vast amount of working poor or simply poor people. Americans are pretty aggressive these days; highly strung! Well, I've got high expectations towards America and I know I get too emotional and let my words rip. I wanna be rational - all the time...it's that American temper of mine, I guess

The good thing about America is that you can count on them - if the shit hits the fan - I just know it!

Not to turn this into a WWII thread, but imagine if Japan had waited 6-8 months, or Hitler wasnt so damned stubborn about taking Stalingrad? Why not outfit the German soldier in Russia with winter gear? How many Germans just froze to death before firing a shot? Wait 6 months for the thaw, take Russia in the spring. Thats the fatal flaw with people who try to take over the world. They all get too big for their own britches.

[Merlin]

And the really sad part is the there are people who really believe that we did this ourselves to start a war. Even THEY deserve protection but they just don't get it isn't free.

[BallHawk]

? Why not outfit the German soldier in Russia with winter gear? How many Germans just froze to death before firing a shot? Wait 6 months for the thaw, take Russia in the spring. Thats the fatal flaw with people who try to take over the world. They all get too big for their own britches.

I can only imagine how cold it was during some of those Russian Winters. I've heard numerous stories of German soldiers lighting themselves on fire because they couldn't take the cold.

And you think Hitler would have learned from what Napolean went through, wouldn't you?

[MJZiggy]

Not to turn this into a WWII thread, but imagine if Japan had waited 6-8 months, or Hitler wasnt so damned stubborn about taking Stalingrad? Why not outfit the German soldier in Russia with winter gear? How many Germans just froze to death before firing a shot? Wait 6 months for the thaw, take Russia in the spring. Thats the fatal flaw with people who try to take over the world. They all get too big for their own britches.

Thank God...

[mmmdk]

Not to turn this into a WWII thread, but imagine if Japan had waited 6-8 months, or Hitler wasnt so damned stubborn about taking Stalingrad? Why not outfit the German soldier in Russia with winter gear? How many Germans just froze to death before firing a shot? Wait 6 months for the thaw, take Russia in the spring. Thats the fatal flaw with people who try to take over the world. They all get too big for their own britches.

Thank God...

A scary what if...