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we need to cleanse this forum of all ethnics. starting with kiwon, of course, but Tyrone high on the list. And I don't care if you really are "ethnic", the avatar is bad enough.
You racist pig! 60% of the world's population lives in Asia. What's your problem? Can't eat with chopsticks?
We'll show you. There! Take that! Perfect scores on the SAT and ACT. What do you think of that?
Its in the Constitution to split electorial votes by congressional district.
I think constitution just specifies that each state gets one elector for each congressman and senator. (which gives the small states extra representation )
What the Constitution actually says:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
Congressman are determined by population in a state. You can lose a seat in congress to another state if your population has shifted. Redistricting should only happen when the population centers move, not because one party or another says it's needs done. It should be a citizen vote only type thing. But that is up to the individual states to decide.
The Electoral college for all of it's nuances is the only fair way to elect a president. Without it, four states could decide the outcome of the election: New York, Florida, Texas and California. The other 46 states would be completely ignored by any candidate. Since we are a Republic, the people are represented and the States are represented (People = House of Representatives, States = Senate). Although the majority of people vote one way, the State may vote another. If you take the States out of the equation then you have essentially knocked one of the pillars of our Constitution out and you are one step closer to Socialism. The Individual State has the right to determine how their electoral votes are cast. Today, this is done by general election normally. However, in some states, the electorate does not have to cast their vote based on the outcome of the election in their state. There are several examples of the electorate splitting their vote within a given state. If States elect to give their electoral votes based upon the national vote and not the state vote, you have effectively taken the State out of the equation and made the Electoral College mean next to nothing. Meaning, you have just taken a huge step towards letting 4 states elect the president and have one foot in the grave towards Socialism.
Individuals do not have the right to vote for the office of president. This was introduced into the election process to give the electorate of a state a direction of where the population that they represent. This was NOT a Federal decision but a State by State decision. The Federal government has very limited powers. They do not have the right to control Public Education, Health Care, Welfare, Abortion, and most controversial things that they attempt to control. All of these issues and many more are powers of the States. The Constitution can only be amended four ways, but the all involve approval of the States by either 2/3rds or 3/4ths of the States depending on the road the amendment took. It is very difficult to get the Constitution amended. Income Tax is an example of an amendment that was passed (16th Amendment). The last amendment was the 27th ratified in 1992 that deals with limiting Congressional pay increases and was introduced in 1789.
More over the political left in this country want us to be a Socialist country. At no time in our history has a Socialist government been successful. They failed and the remaining continue to fail. Our Founding Fathers believed that democratic or "mob" rule was not the way to run a country. This is why we are a Republic based on Federalism with more rights given to the individual then to the Government. However, if things continue the way they are, those people without health care who have 2 cars, a house, cable/satellite, internet, iPhones, etc. will get free health care while the rest of us who make the better life choices live with less so they can have more.
"Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
The Electoral college for all of it's nuances is the only fair way to elect a president .
If you believe in the Constitution it is. If you don't, then by all means let the mob rule, but it will take an amendment to allow that unless the States (who are already turning into their own little Socialist dictatorships) turn into a bunch of panzy asses.
"Once the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the Republic.”
– Benjamin Franklin
Merlin, we are unique in the world wih this electoral college system. The other democracies shake their head in bewilderment. The electoral college is an archaic bad joke. I will give a more thoughtful reply to your post, tho, jus a minute.
If you take the States out of the equation then you have essentially knocked one of the pillars of our Constitution out and you are one step closer to Socialism.
Socialism has nothing to do with it. I'm trying to guess what this is code for, I guess more power in the central goverment. But it doesn't even do that, the president has no more or less power if he is elected by a popular vote.
And the States don't actually get any power out of the electoral college. SOME states are advantaged at the expense of other states.
Originally posted by Merlin
States elect to give their electoral votes based upon the national vote and not the state vote, you have effectively taken the State out of the equation and made the Electoral College mean next to nothing.
I don't know who suggested this or why. Perhaps you misunderstand. The only suggestions I have heard is that States apportion their electoral votes according to the popular vote within the same state.
Federalism has nothing to do with the electoral college.
The only good argument for the electoral college, and I think you might have mentioned it, is that it strengthens the voice of smaller states who might otherwise be ignored.
This was a strong argument in the 18th century. But now elections are conducted largely through the media, where it doesn't matter whether you live in California or Wyoming.
Republicans will win the next presidential election.
Americans want Hill-Billy
Younger dems want Hussein Obama but the media and older dems want to elect Hillary. The media will do everything to ensure that Hillary is elected. The fix is already in.
And Bill, the First Perv, can't wait to troll for 22 year-old interns again. Ah, the good ole days....... (harp music background)
"Ms. Lewinsky testified that she and the President had a sexual encounter during this visit. They kissed, and the President touched Ms. Lewinsky's bare XXXXX with his hands and mouth. At some point, Ms. Currie approached the door leading to the hallway, which was ajar, and said that the President had a telephone call. Ms. Lewinsky recalled that the caller was a Member of Congress with a nickname. While the President was on the telephone, according to Ms. Lewinsky, "he unzipped his pants and exposed himself," and she performed XXXX sex [Which we all know now doesn't meet his definition of sex]. Again, he stopped her before he XXXXX.
During this visit, according to Ms. Lewinsky, the President told her that he liked her smile and her energy. He also said: "I'm usually around on weekends, no one else is around, and you can come and see me."
Republicans will win the next presidential election.
Americans want Hill-Billy
Younger dems want Hussein Obama but the media and older dems want to elect Hillary. The media will do everything to ensure that Hillary is elected. The fix is already in.
And Bill, the First Perv, can't wait to troll for 22 year-old interns again. Ah, the good ole days....... (harp music background)
"Ms. Lewinsky testified that she and the President had a sexual encounter during this visit. They kissed, and the President touched Ms. Lewinsky's bare XXXXX with his hands and mouth. At some point, Ms. Currie approached the door leading to the hallway, which was ajar, and said that the President had a telephone call. Ms. Lewinsky recalled that the caller was a Member of Congress with a nickname. While the President was on the telephone, according to Ms. Lewinsky, "he unzipped his pants and exposed himself," and she performed XXXX sex [Which we all know now doesn't meet his definition of sex]. Again, he stopped her before he XXXXX.
During this visit, according to Ms. Lewinsky, the President told her that he liked her smile and her energy. He also said: "I'm usually around on weekends, no one else is around, and you can come and see me."
He "liked her energy."
Boy, that Clinton really got under you Republicans' skin, didn't he?
This would be bad for Dems as most of the more ppulated districts vote blue and more rural districts vote red....why would you give a district with less people as much clout as a district with more people. This would play directly into the reds hands!
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