Who says Dems play at demagoguery politics?

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Edwards Predicts Doom for African-American Males

Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said if he wasn’t elected president, the population of African-American males is likely to either wind up in prison or dead.

At an MTV/MySpace.com forum Thursday, Edwards responded to a question about inner-city kids partaking in violence by saying there was no “silver bullet” to fight the problem.

“We start with the president of the United States saying to America, ‘we cannot build enough prisons to solve this problem. And the idea that we can keep incarcerating and keep incarcerating — pretty soon we’re not going to have a young African-American male population in America. They’re all going to be in prison or dead. One of the two.”

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Kerry and Edwards together on the campaign trail (AKA the King and the Duke)

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Who says Dems play at demagoguery politics?

Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said if he wasn’t elected president, the population of African-American males is likely to either wind up in prison or dead.

What a kook! This is worse than Al Gore saying he invented the internet.

Thanks for the heads up, from now on I'm only voting for Republicans.

[RashanGary]

I'm somewhere in the middle becuase I grow tired of the religious and oppresive nature that seems to follow the conservative movement but they are somewhat inspiring when it comes to creating competition and strengthening our countries economy.

I was listening to Newt Gingrich on the Hannity show a couple days ago. He is considering entering the race. He is the first candidate that has really made me feel like he has a vision and confidence in his ability to make postive changes in our government.

He said he wanted to limit low skilled immigration while promoting high skilled, high demand immigration that will strengthen our companies. We're a great country adn we have some great people, but where do you think you will find the best and brightest? Scowering 200 million Americans or scowering billions around the world. The more top notch people that get hired at our companies, the more we thrive in technology markets and the more GOOD JOBS that will be available because of our growing companies. This is the biggest issue for me. If we can get the worlds best working for our companies, we WILL thrive and good jobs will be available for all of us. I don't want anything for free. I want an enviorment where I know I can get a good job at a good company. I don't need anything for free. Just make our companies strong so success and security is attainable.

He wants to do everything possible to make sure NY continues to be the trade center of the world instead of moving to London which is where it seems to be heading. This is good if we for our economic world power.

He had some political issues that seem to be driven by getting votes, but the core of his platform seems to be strengthening our economy. I listened to him, and for the first time in this election, I feel inspired.

I beleive that if you want our econony and our country to remain strong, Newt would be the vote that gets us there. The democrats seem focused on getting socialized health care and getting votes from those who don't work. The republicans are going to the core of the problem by strengthening our companies, which will give us jobs and we'll have real security through world dominance instead of false security that will spiral downward as our companies struggle to compete. Ultimately the republicans are setting up an enviornment that allows us to take from the rest of the world by being the best in the world. There are enough people in this world that not everyone gets a great life. Some are going to be poor. Some our going to be rich. Let's make sure our companies dominate their companies and make our country rich. The goal is world dominance on a corprate level which will trickle down to the individual level (for us, not them)

As long as we produce the most desirable products in the world, people will buy our products and our companies will have jobs available to all of us. We have to do everything possible to promote the world dominance of our companies and everythign else will fall into place. First step is to get the world best and brightest into our companies. The 2nd step is to have our govnerment stop trying to take from the companines and create an enviornment that supports their growth and world dominance rather than hindering it. Our future depends on our ability to dominate the world markets. Newt has a vision to do that. The dems just steal votes with false securtiy. If our companines don't remain competitive in the world markets our economy will falter and the govt will not be able to afford all of these free things that they are offering.

[RashanGary]

I'm also a huge fan of Bush trying to level the playing field by forcing all countries to comply with enviormental standards. We are one country. There are many countries other than our own who are dumping crap loads of polution into the world we live. We are making laws that cripple our country while much of the world just wrecks the world and produces cheap products (which takes away from our ability to make money).

If we can find a way to get the whole world complying with these rules, it will bring everyone down a notch because it will take a little more to create products. It will help the earth, and hurt us a little short term but right now we are makign laws that stop us from poluting while the rest of the world just has companies who do what we would have doen, the world still gets werecked and we lose jobs.

The way to fight the wrecking the enviornment is on a world wide level. The republicans again have the right idea.

I used to be down the middle becuase I was influenced by the couple political issues that where brought up in school or on TV but when you look deep, you see that there really is a right and wrong. There really is a good and bad. The dems are awfull. They do a coiuple good things, but they are the party of corruption, false security and pandering. Republicans, for the most part, stand for strengthening the economy and even helping the enviorment which are two major issues for me. I want a world that is beautiful and livalbe and I want a high standard of living.

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Re: Who says Dems play at demagoguery politics?

Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said if he wasn’t elected president, the population of African-American males is likely to either wind up in prison or dead.

What a kook! This is worse than Al Gore saying he invented the internet.

Thanks for the heads up, from now on I'm only voting for Republicans.

Oh, I forgot, I'm only allowed to post stupid things republicans say or do per Harlan's Guide to Forum Posting Section 4.11(c). Thanks for the heads up Harlan! I had almost forgotten that one!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Who says Dems play at demagoguery politics?

Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards said if he wasn’t elected president, the population of African-American males is likely to either wind up in prison or dead.

What a kook! This is worse than Al Gore saying he invented the internet.

Thanks for the heads up, from now on I'm only voting for Republicans.

Oh, I forgot, I'm only allowed to post stupid things republicans say or do per Harlan's Guide to Forum Posting Section 4.11(c). Thanks for the heads up Harlan! I had almost forgotten that one!

You made a false statement, don't get discouraged just because I called you on it.

You sound like a teenage girl who's mad at her mom.

John Edwards is probably my all-time least favorite politician, at least from the Democratic side. What he actually said was bad enough.

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Re: Who says Dems play at demagoguery politics?

You made a false statement, don't get discouraged just because I called you on it.

Which statement was that?

You sound like a teenage girl who's mad at her mom.

I can't help what voices you add to posters in your head.

What he actually said was bad enough.

So, what's your inside scoop? What did he "actually" say? Just wondering what you know that the AP doesn't.

[Harlan Huckleby]

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He's not fear mongering. "Elect me or doom" is your spin.

His strategy is to say things that a target audience (black people in the case of this question) want to hear. He says that the deck is hopeless stacked against black people; he demonstrates that he thinks like them and cares about them.
I don't like that he implies that black people are in prison because of racism.

Edwards is pandering. When Mitt Romney tells the NRA audience that he is a hunter (when he's been out in the woods a couple times in his life) he is trying to create a connection. Same sort of thing.

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He's not fear mongering. "Elect me or doom" is your spin.

pretty soon we’re not going to have a young African-American male population in America. They’re all going to be in prison or dead. One of the two.

Telling black people they are heading for jail or death isn't fear mongering? And his solution isn't to be elected president? He's just giving them a heads up? You sure do give Edwards a wide margin on this one don't ya?

Edwards is pandering. When Mitt Romney tells the NRA audience that he is a hunter (when he's been out in the woods a couple times in his life) he is trying to create a connection. Same sort of thing.

It isn't the "same sort of thing." Yes, pandering is telling an NRA audience that you are a hunter. Pandering is not telling an NRA audience that the status quo will lead to the death and/or incarceration of all hunters and that the only logical solution is to elect you.

Although he then goes on to blame the education system, the health care system, and the judicial system for the problems of black America. Playing up the victim status of African Americans involved in crime - that's pandering. Telling black people they're all going to die or go to jail - not so much.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Telling black people they're all going to die or go to jail - not so much.

OK, you can choose to interpret the words literally and call it fear mongering. (Those are some dumb people, those negroes.)

But the next time you hear a politician say the country is going to hell in a handbasket, don't expect to find people running out into the streets waving their arms and screaming.

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But the next time you hear a politician say the country is going to hell in a handbasket, don't expect to find people running out into the streets waving their arms and screaming.

No, not all people. I only expect to see Democrats running out into the streets waving their arms and screaming..

[Joemailman]

Obviously, bith sides demagogue. Edwards' comment actually seems fairly mild compared to what Cheney said in 2004:

"If we make the wrong choice, then the danger is that we'll get hit again -- that we'll be hit in a way that will be devastating from the standpoint of the United States," Cheney said.