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This little monster will grow to 12 pages by the end of the week and have all kinds of nasty things posted in it. WHY? Why can't people just be happy with winning and leave all the "I told you so" stuff out?
apologize? why should anyone have to apologize for their opinions. It's a sports forum where people are SUPPOSED to post their opinions.
So which is it? Are people supposed to be unapologetic for their opinions, or should they be apologetic for feeling like telling some douche-bag who was wrong six weeks ago that yes, "I fucking told you so, and all the shit I had to take from you for expressing my opinion was unfounded and idiotic." That's their opinion isn't it? So people are "SUPPOSED to post their opinions" unless those opinions make someone else look wrong, but only if the person who is supposedly wrong is in this supposed minority?
Figure this shit out so we can have a discourse without wondering where the cocksucking thread went. Please. With sugar on top.
"You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
This little monster will grow to 12 pages by the end of the week and have all kinds of nasty things posted in it. WHY? Why can't people just be happy with winning and leave all the "I told you so" stuff out?
apologize? why should anyone have to apologize for their opinions. It's a sports forum where people are SUPPOSED to post their opinions.
So which is it? Are people supposed to be unapologetic for their opinions, or should they be apologetic for feeling like telling some douche-bag who was wrong six weeks ago that yes, "I fucking told you so, and all the shit I had to take from you for expressing my opinion was unfounded and idiotic." That's their opinion isn't it? So people are "SUPPOSED to post their opinions" unless those opinions make someone else look wrong, but only if the person who is supposedly wrong is in this supposed minority?
Figure this shit out so we can have a discourse without wondering where the cocksucking thread went. Please. With sugar on top.
Skin, that quote was part of something I posted on page 2. The name calling and disrespect had started....was just trying to mellow it a bit. If you look back you will see different posts were edited so it may appear to be nothing now. And the apology part........forget it. The people involved in this Hate/Love Thompson thing are so wrapped up in the debate they would never get what I was talking about. I guess I just don't understand why it's such a big deal to say "I told you so". Early on after Jones was drafted and I expressed my support, someone made fun of me. I didn't go back to look to see who it was so I could pat myself on the back because I don't give a shit. I guess this Thompson thing runs deep. Who would have guessed a white haired middle aged guy could create such a fuss.
This little monster will grow to 12 pages by the end of the week and have all kinds of nasty things posted in it. WHY? Why can't people just be happy with winning and leave all the "I told you so" stuff out?
apologize? why should anyone have to apologize for their opinions. It's a sports forum where people are SUPPOSED to post their opinions.
So which is it? Are people supposed to be unapologetic for their opinions, or should they be apologetic for feeling like telling some douche-bag who was wrong six weeks ago that yes, "I fucking told you so, and all the shit I had to take from you for expressing my opinion was unfounded and idiotic." That's their opinion isn't it? So people are "SUPPOSED to post their opinions" unless those opinions make someone else look wrong, but only if the person who is supposedly wrong is in this supposed minority?
Figure this shit out so we can have a discourse without wondering where the cocksucking thread went. Please. With sugar on top.
Skin, that quote was part of something I posted on page 2. The name calling and disrespect had started....was just trying to mellow it a bit. If you look back you will see different posts were edited so it may appear to be nothing now. And the apology part........forget it. The people involved in this Hate/Love Thompson thing are so wrapped up in the debate they would never get what I was talking about. I guess I just don't understand why it's such a big deal to say "I told you so". Early on after Jones was drafted and I expressed my support, someone made fun of me. I didn't go back to look to see who it was so I could pat myself on the back because I don't give a shit. I guess this Thompson thing runs deep. Who would have guessed a white haired middle aged guy could create such a fuss.
I wasn't trying to use you as an example. Just that your quote keeps getting kicked around here in a way that seems a little hypocritical. I actually don't have very strong feelings about Thompson, but I understand that those who do probably feel like telling the people who beat them over the head for weeks on end before the season even started that they feel somewhat vindicated by the Packer's early success. I feel they have a right to that feeling given how much crap they took just a few weeks ago without having the thread kicked to the curb by a bunch of people, some of them moderators, telling them they shouldn't care so much.
I might not be a "feelings guy" but I have a feeling that people with strong positive feelings toward Thompson and his approach feel they are being marginalized when they should have cause to celebrate, and yes, even gloat, about how they may have been right.
It doesn't help when certain mods (I'm assuming that some people actually defer to you guys, but I could be wrong) start talking about the poor abused "minority" who, as far as I can tell, were given free reign a few weeks ago when stating their case that Thompson was an abject failure, but who are now apparently part of some protected endangered species act.
"You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial
II have a feeling that people with strong positive feelings toward Thompson and his approach feel they are being marginalized ... who are now apparently part of some protected endangered species act.
the solution is obvious: include those with STRONG, POSITIVE feelings towards Ted under the endangered species act. No reason for you to be marginalized. In fact, the margins are no place to cast ANY PackerRat. We need smaller margins, perhaps eliminate them entirely: Madtown, can you do that?
My final thought on this whole topic: I understand emotions run strong concerning all aspects of the Green Bay Packers. However, I have never quite understood how the Packers being 4-0 is supposed to be something everyone praises Thompson over. He's brought in some good players and for that I give him credit. But lets face it, football is one of the ultimate TEAM sports. The Green Bay Packers TEAM is 4-0. The team is doing their job right now....and doing it well for the most part, is the reason the Packers are 4-0. Now I know some people will say that TT is responsible for bringing this team together....BUT, look at some of the teams that have a ton of talent and end up doing little or nothing. Maybe MM is the one that deserves more credit at this point then TT.....just a thought????
Well, your good buddy shadow took care of that one for me. Read his post just a few posts after yours where he goes through this example of how I "Just didn't UNDERSTAND him". It was really clear hypocrisy to your point, and didn't require me to respond. It stands alone as a clear example of what I'm talking about.
See, let me sum it up for you. If you post something that the majority disagrees with, you'd better make sure that you do it in a manner that is viewed as "proper" to the rest of the forum. That sums up your post in one sentence, I'd say. If you don't, you've EARNED yourself a bad attitide, and justifiable forum ettiquette from the rest of the posters, such as skin and my good buddy vic who just "pile on".
Next, if your "view" is accepted by the majority of the posters here, it is up the individual reading/responding to that post to "ascertain" what the majority view poster "meant". Failure to do that, subjects said poster to justifiable forum ettiquett from the rest of the posters.
I got it. and I disagree.
You're up.
No, my point was that when you bitch and moan and bitch and moan and be a condescending jerk to people, they are going to be like I told you so.
If you're upset people are ganging up on you, then don't be a jerk originally and continually be condescending and sarcastic. It's not rocket science.
I don't get what the obsession over TT is. Who cares? No one has any control over it. Why not discuss our players and why he feels they are good enough to play the game. Why not try figuring out how to beat the opponent or doing something constructive instead of whining? If you're unhappy about it, write a letter or make a phone call. Stop being a sarcastic ass on a message board. I don't think you've respectfully disagreed with anyone in a thread that i've read in the past two months yet. It's always in a mean, arrogant, spiteful way.
I think this thread needs some level headed moderation.
Remember when you and me were the Mexi's henchmen. Those were wild times. I remember when us three amigos were cruising down the highway in Mad's pinto. I lost my virginity that night in Tijuana. Good times!
I think the most important thing around here is how you say something.
RG comes off as an asshat in my opinion with his cocky responses. Nick Collins comes off as a douchebag when he says shit in his condescending ways. They have polar opposite views but I think they're equally cocky and irritating. This is by no means exclusive to those two. I feel like I come off as a prick on here, too. I guess its all interpretation. I have talked to both of these guys one on one many times and they're both great people, but the arguing on here brings out the worst.
Sarcastic, dickheaded respones piss everyone off. That, paired with changing tone (hottie avatar person did this recently) is really, really irritating and what probably leads to a lot of bad blood.
I remember that first PackersBlues thread a month or two back where every response was like really cocky, sarcastic, and loaded with an "you're an idiot; I am smarter than you" attitude. That probably irritated a lot of people and I am sure there are still people who hold a grudge, ignore his posts, etc. I for one think he has really turned himself into a pretty darn good poster albeit a very lengthy-wordy one :P
I think the key is to keep your cool and just be nice. I've been an F'in dick around here and acted all immature and kept getting myself in trouble w/ other posters and even w/ the leadership of the board. I have been working to change that perception and attitude since then.
I don't have an answer on how to stop the madness, but this is why I think it occurs.
I agree on PackerBlues. He was anti-Thompson, but give him credit for enjoying the early season success--swallowing his pride a bit.
Should I bring up some of the old Thompson threads, and we can see who said what?
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
Well you sure don't stop the madness by calling a bunch of people names. Talk about instigating!!!
You're just more subtle in doing it.
However, I have never quite understood how the Packers being 4-0 is supposed to be something everyone praises Thompson over.
EDIT: I better put a smiley face on here.
"There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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