Over/Under On The Thompson Bashers

[cpk1994]

Re: Over/Under On The Thompson Bashers

Ok, we are 4-0; no team in the entire NFL has a better record after 1/4 of the regular season.
One of the chronic TT bashers seems to have softened in the face of the significant improvement in the team, but at least 2 others have adamantly, petulantly dug in their heels and refused to face the painfully obvious.
One gets the feeling that they are now down in the bunker, just waiting for a Packer loss to jump back in to once again spew more blasts of their ridiculous vitriol. Their claims : "Thompson is trying to wreck the Packers" (to lose his own job?), "Thompson hates Favre so much he is wrecking the Packers" (to lose his own job?) "Thompson is trying to wreck the entire universe" have been a source of amusement to many of us for a long time, and, in all fairness, might wind up being actually missed for their comedic value if & when the misguided return to reality.
Now then : just how many wins will it take for them to extend even the tiniest bit of credit to Ted Thompson for the job he's done?
5?
6?
8?
12?
16-0??????????

Now YOU.

Seems to me that your resembling the Village Idiot that shits on the parade.

WTF.

Pot calling kettle.

BTW, 4-0 without your boy Moss. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

First of all we are people of various backgrounds that love the Packers.

We should not be taking any different views to the extreme of judging or pidgeon holeing. WE are just all Packer fans and Rastak.

Just for you to ponder.

Maybe you could examine this silly feud a tad closer before you jump on either band wagon cpk1994.

Just maybe. It is best to remain a neutral and not pick sides or gang on. It will all come out in the wash despite some ruffled feathers at hthe present time.

I will to go out on the edge and imform all on this board, that the people like myself who are afflicted with the accusations of being the hateful are actually quite the opposite.

We want a win - win for all Packer fans.

We (the so called and labeled TT haters. . .Haha) are the fact based, truthfully accountable objective posters that only want the Packers to move towords winning and real growth.

For our Packer team GM Ted Thompson to do something more not less.

I see it in terms of the big picture and major goal of winning as Brett Favre does. The duty of the Packer GM is to do all he can to ensure a status of consistency in winning as well as maintain financial restraint for our teams future.

Not all one way or the other.

The chief reason that some here have stood against Ted Thompson is that we feel he should take advantage of the fact we still have Brett Favre. Have encouraged more talent (experience) in our offence and specifically at the position of obvious concern, Runningback.

I would be the last person to rub it in a mans face. I will not argue.

I felt our running game would be weaker and that is the way it appears to be. Ted Thompson went with the status quo after encouraging Ahman Green to change loyalities. I felt that he ran too high of a risk to make that assessment.

We have the worst running game in the NFL. Why is that now. . .

Some of us could see that from a long way off but Ted Thompson did not or is it something else in Ted Thompson . . .

That is the root of the debate.

Fact based? PULEEEEEZE. Anyway, I merely stated the fact that it is hypocritcal of you to call someone a villiage idiot for raining on the parade of others when you have been doing the exact same thing. Also, the fact that you have an obsession with Moss and can't get over it. You continue to take shots at TT for not signing Moss in every thread you post it in, even when the topic isn't about either. It is getting old, boring, repetitve and stupid. You hate TT and are mad the Pack didn't sign Moss. We get it. NOW GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, and once again, 4-0 with out your boy Moss.

[MJZiggy]

Is Harvey the new Patler?

There is only one Patler. Just as there is only one Harv.

[retailguy]

Re: Over/Under On The Thompson Bashers

We (the so called and labeled TT haters. . .Haha) are the fact based, truthfully accountable objective posters that only want the Packers to move towords winning and real growth.

These kind of statements remind me of when I bought my second car when I was about 19. I remember dealing with the used car salesman "Honest Bill Kowalski". He kept telling me how he would never steer me wrong.

"Honest Bill" steered me wrong?! Say it ain't so!

[Harlan Huckleby]

Ziggy at night:

"God bless mommy and daddy and Harvey and Patler......"

[retailguy]

Ziggy at night:

"God bless mommy and daddy and Harvey and Patler......"

"and please bring me a superbowl win for Christmas...."

[MJZiggy]

Ziggy at night:

"God bless mommy and daddy and Harvey and Patler......"

"and please bring me a superbowl win for Christmas...."

See now this last part I agree with. Harlan don't be all like that. You're unique as well.

[esoxx]

Too much hate in here.

[ZachMN]

o.k. I'm going to get ripped on this BUT

As good as 4-0 is, its not like there arent a bunch of teams who only have one loss. We are doing very well and have a kick ass coach and young, hungry players and a qb who , I have to admit, keeps pulling rabbits out of hats.

All that being said we are not over the hump but its nice to have these wins. We need to COUGH bear down and keep our noses to the grindstone. Its s long season and we are not out of the woods.

All the whille I will enjoy the ride that number 4 keeps taking me on.

Thanks, Brett, your the best

Zach MN

[retailguy]

o.k. I'm going to get ripped on this BUT

As good as 4-0 is, its not like there arent a bunch of teams who only have one loss. We are doing very well and have a kick ass coach and young, hungry players and a qb who , I have to admit, keeps pulling rabbits out of hats.

All that being said we are not over the hump but its nice to have these wins. We need to COUGH bear down and keep our noses to the grindstone. Its s long season and we are not out of the woods.

All the whille I will enjoy the ride that number 4 keeps taking me on.

Thanks, Brett, your the best

Zach MN

This post illustrates the issue PERFECTLY. Zach, I'm not ripping on you! Not one bit.

All - The VERY reason he has to start this post with the words "I'm going to get "ripped" on this, but" says it all!

You cannot state a negative OPINION or FACT in these rooms without getting bashed. The win streak has made this WORSE, not better. Until some in here acknowledge that they have no room to even LISTEN to another opinion, NOTHING will change.

Read his words. Then look in the mirror. (I've already done that, I'm not preaching.).....

[Zool]

I would think that the majority of the people in here read most of the posts and do not reply. Those people are, and have been, the cautiously optimistic people.

[retailguy]

I would think that the majority of the people in here read most of the posts and do not reply. Those people are, and have been, the cautiously optimistic people.

I completely agree, and since Zach has 72 posts (to date), that probably indicates he is one of the "cautiously optimistic".

But he's also read enough to know that if he actually "posts" anything remotely negative (instead of just thinking it), he needs to put on his flak jacket, and acknowledge that he'll be bashed for his opinion, and to me THAT is the clear message.

That was my point. Sorry if that was not clear.

[MJZiggy]

You don't think someone who wants to post something positive goes through the same thing? If you post something at either polar end (and I'm not saying Zach did) it's the exact same thing. But the funny thing you might wanna notice is that NO ONE has put forth any kind of argument about what he said because it's not unreasonable. I, for one, quite agree with it.

[Partial]

I would think that the majority of the people in here read most of the posts and do not reply. Those people are, and have been, the cautiously optimistic people.

I completely agree, and since Zach has 72 posts (to date), that probably indicates he is one of the "cautiously optimistic".

But he's also read enough to know that if he actually "posts" anything remotely negative (instead of just thinking it), he needs to put on his flak jacket, and acknowledge that he'll be bashed for his opinion, and to me THAT is the clear message.

That was my point. Sorry if that was not clear.

Not true. I think Darren Colledge sucks and I am not at all worried about catching flack for it because I am convinced he is awful. It doesn't take away from the success of the team or mean that the team sucks, though. The team can still be great and have a terrible player on it. Not every team has a pro-bowler at every position. Hell, the Pats and Cowboys even have some BAD players starting for them.

The thing that ticks people off is when there is mention of the team being bad when they're 4-0. Clearly, they're looking good and are on the upswing. There will always be things they can improve on. That's why the so far invincible Patriots still practice during the week.

[Zool]

I would think that the majority of the people in here read most of the posts and do not reply. Those people are, and have been, the cautiously optimistic people.

I completely agree, and since Zach has 72 posts (to date), that probably indicates he is one of the "cautiously optimistic".

But he's also read enough to know that if he actually "posts" anything remotely negative (instead of just thinking it), he needs to put on his flak jacket, and acknowledge that he'll be bashed for his opinion, and to me THAT is the clear message.

That was my point. Sorry if that was not clear.

I agreed with you, just adding on i spose. I wouldnt agree with the "remotely negative" part tho. I'm probably seen as one of the optimists, but Ive posted plenty of negatives without getting bashed too hard. Just cant keep beating the dead horse without someone lashing out.

[Carolina_Packer]

Re: Over/Under On The Thompson Bashers

Ok, we are 4-0; no team in the entire NFL has a better record after 1/4 of the regular season.
One of the chronic TT bashers seems to have softened in the face of the significant improvement in the team, but at least 2 others have adamantly, petulantly dug in their heels and refused to face the painfully obvious.
One gets the feeling that they are now down in the bunker, just waiting for a Packer loss to jump back in to once again spew more blasts of their ridiculous vitriol. Their claims : "Thompson is trying to wreck the Packers" (to lose his own job?), "Thompson hates Favre so much he is wrecking the Packers" (to lose his own job?) "Thompson is trying to wreck the entire universe" have been a source of amusement to many of us for a long time, and, in all fairness, might wind up being actually missed for their comedic value if & when the misguided return to reality.
Now then : just how many wins will it take for them to extend even the tiniest bit of credit to Ted Thompson for the job he's done?
5?
6?
8?
12?
16-0??????????

Now YOU.

Seems to me that your resembling the Village Idiot that shits on the parade.

WTF.

Pot calling kettle.

BTW, 4-0 without your boy Moss. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

First of all we are people of various backgrounds that love the Packers.

We should not be taking any different views to the extreme of judging or pidgeon holeing. WE are just all Packer fans and Rastak.

Just for you to ponder.

Maybe you could examine this silly feud a tad closer before you jump on either band wagon cpk1994.

Just maybe. It is best to remain a neutral and not pick sides or gang on. It will all come out in the wash despite some ruffled feathers at hthe present time.

I will to go out on the edge and imform all on this board, that the people like myself who are afflicted with the accusations of being the hateful are actually quite the opposite.

We want a win - win for all Packer fans.

We (the so called and labeled TT haters. . .Haha) are the fact based, truthfully accountable objective posters that only want the Packers to move towords winning and real growth.

For our Packer team GM Ted Thompson to do something more not less.

I see it in terms of the big picture and major goal of winning as Brett Favre does. The duty of the Packer GM is to do all he can to ensure a status of consistency in winning as well as maintain financial restraint for our teams future.

Not all one way or the other.

The chief reason that some here have stood against Ted Thompson is that we feel he should take advantage of the fact we still have Brett Favre. Have encouraged more talent (experience) in our offence and specifically at the position of obvious concern, Runningback.

I would be the last person to rub it in a mans face. I will not argue.

I felt our running game would be weaker and that is the way it appears to be. Ted Thompson went with the status quo after encouraging Ahman Green to change loyalities. I felt that he ran too high of a risk to make that assessment.

We have the worst running game in the NFL. Why is that now. . .

Some of us could see that from a long way off but Ted Thompson did not or is it something else in Ted Thompson . . .

That is the root of the debate.

Mr. Nail please meet Mr. Head...Wham!

I think TT got caught off-guard with this one. He must have thought we were good enough, otherwise, we'd have different personnel now. I know people talk about last off-season, and getting a running back, etc., but really that was painting ourselves into a corner. We either choose one of the available running backs and Harvey has argued well that there weren't a lot of great options. TT obviously saw it the same way. So, what could have been done to prevent this? Draft more high-caliber running back talent, instead of always going with the undrafted free agents or little-tested talent. We could have drafted someone back in 2005 or 2006 and had them in our system ready to assume the reigns if/when we decided to let Ahman walk. Take away all the talent acquired this year (Jackson, Wynn and Grant...sounds like a firm) and you have P.J. Pope, Arliss Beach and Vernand Morency. There are no guarantees, but isn't the idea of the draft to stock up before the need arrives (ala Justin Harrell)? So far, we have only drafted RB's in the 2007 draft, after we knew Ahman was leaving. Seems too reactive.

Here are two players we could have drafted in recent drafts. In 2005, Terence Murphy was an unfortunate accident for sure, however a few picks after him, SF took Frank Gore...ouch for that miss. In 2006, in the 4th round, we took Cory "Shoot 'Em Up!" Rodgers who busted. A few picks after, the Jets picked Leon Washington. Gore is a stud, and Washington isn't great, but he flashes. All I'm saying is, we could have invested a little more from TT's first draft on to enures the future of the running game instead of getting caught off-guard by the departure of Ahman Green. That is not to slam Vernand Morency or any of the backs we have. It's more about succession and preparedness. We have prepared for Brett's departure for the last few years with A-Rod. We knew when Ahman's contract was up, so why didn't we sign a serious replacement back in 2005 or 2006? I think the cupboard was a little bare, and it left us in a position to have to rely on too much inexperience.

Sure, that's picking nits at 4-0, but it's a big nit! He should have taken even greater care to ensure the stability of the RB position, instead of rolling the dice with inexperienced guys who may not have been ready to help us. If not through free agency, which I fully understand, if there's nobody there you like, so be it. However, if draft and develop is your M.O., then give the running game it's due for draft picks in advance of your stud running back leaving town. I think he just got caught flat-footed and should see things like this 2-3 years out. Maybe it's just me.

I love this team, and I want to see it thrive, not sputter as a result of not being able to run the ball. If they can go the entire season and not have a running game and win a lot of games and go deep in the playoffs, it will be an amazing accomplishment. But to me, this is a problem that could have been solved before it ever happenend, and given what he saw happen to the RB position in 2005, I'm surprised he didn't draft an RB in 2006.