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    Let's ban tipping in Wisconsin
    By Bill Bollom
    Wisconsin should pass a law making it the only non-tipping state in the nation.

    This past March, my wife and I were visiting Singapore, where we lived 25 years earlier. Our taxi driver was having a devil of a time getting to our hotel because of road construction. He turned off his meter. When we finally arrived, I tipped him a couple of dollars. He told me, "No, tipping is illegal in Singapore." He pointed to the sign on the dash, "PLEASE, NO TIPPING."

    He asked me, "What do you do in your country?"

    "I'm retired. I'm a CPA and a retired university professor."

    "Did your clients and students tip you? Do you tip your doctor? The meter tells you what the trip was worth. I always do my best work. No tip is necessary to encourage me to do a better job. I'm a professional. I'm as proud of what I do as you are sir."

    My wife and I really liked the no-tipping law in Singapore. And the taxi driver was right. Tipping assumes that the receiver wouldn't do his best unless he is paid extra. It smacks of a superior-subordinate relationship, and it passes on to the customer the obligation of the employer.

    Also, the practice is demeaning. On some of our U.S. travel tours, guides, historians and bus drivers stand at the bottom of the bus steps, hands outstretched like a common beggar.

    Finally, I'll bet everyone reading this has at one time or another been in a conundrum about tipping, like when the bellhop wrestles your bag from you, wheels it 10 feet to the front desk and wants a tip. I know it upsets my evening.

    We are in a system where the employer pays a low wage and assumes tips will bring employee income up to a reasonable level.

    But wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone was paid what they were worth and there was no tipping? Prices may rise, but tightwads -- referred to as "free riders" in economic literature -- would finally pay a fair share, no longer getting off the hook.

    I find it difficult to understand how the custom of tipping keeps growing. Now, even coffee shops feature a tip jar. It wouldn't surprise me to see one by the gas station cash register, but it would rile me.

    Years ago, when my wife and I traveled in India, tipping was a nightmare. At every turn, someone had his hand out for a tip. Just when you thought someone was simply lending a helping hand, like offering up an empty airport trolly cart, his hand immediately went out for a tip.

    Our airline check-in agent demanded a tip before he'd give us our boarding passes. There was much shouting. My wife would not leave the check-in counter.

    The temperature was 100 degrees with about equal humidity. There was a line of about 350 people behind us. She wouldn't budge. She'd had enough of India and wasn't tipping to get her boarding pass.

    It was eventually given to us without a tip. My wife simply hollered the guy into submission. Events like this can ruin a guy's day.

    Tipping can get ugly. Argentines outlaw it. Aussies find it foolish. Our own airlines prohibit it. If the latter survives without it, can't we eliminate it entirely?

    Let's make Wisconsin the only no-tipping state in the United States.

    It would be a great state promotion: "Escape to Wisconsin -- Where tipping is illegal but service isn't."

  • #2
    I hate the custom of tipping. It really amounts to a tax on kindness.

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    • #3
      It's an interesting concept, but I'd rather see a law on the Wisconsin books that allows family members of senior citizens with drivers licenses to be able to request a road test for their loved ones before someone gets killed.
      "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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      • #4
        oh, I don't think a tipping law is a good idea, i just hating tipping.

        As far as old people driving, maybe they should have a yearly road race for senior citizens, and the survivors are relicensed for another year. A little harsh, but so is nature.

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        • #5
          Joke all you want, it's your neighborhood, not mine.
          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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          • #6
            A no tipping law isn't a bad idea but then all those in the food industry from waiters/ waitresses to pizza drivers will need their hourly wages adjusted and business owners will fight that. I worked as a waiter, busser, and pizza driver for years and depended on tips. Without tips i would've made $50 a week. If you eliminate tips those in the food industry will only make minimum wage, but with tips they can make $10-15 and hour or more. Plus if you eliminate tips and increase their hourly wage your chicken sandwich and blooming onion at Chili's will cost you 50% more. I don't always like to tip either, but I know what it's like to depend on them so if I get a good service I will tip good.

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            • #7
              My favorites are places with restroom attendants who hand you a paper towel after you wash your hands and have a tip jar sitting there.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GBRulz
                My favorites are places with restroom attendants who hand you a paper towel after you wash your hands and have a tip jar sitting there.
                I wonder what that person complains about after a "bad day at the office..."
                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MJZiggy
                  Originally posted by GBRulz
                  My favorites are places with restroom attendants who hand you a paper towel after you wash your hands and have a tip jar sitting there.
                  I wonder what that person complains about after a "bad day at the office..."
                  All the toe tapping and requests for extra towels?

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                  • #10
                    how would strippers get paid ?
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Bretsky
                      how would strippers get paid ?
                      At the door as you walk in. They'll have a 20 drink minimum.

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                      • #12
                        Used to waiter and bartend. Without tipping, the crap you have to put up with for the base pay one would get isn't worth it.

                        I don't expect everybody to tip. If they do or they don't I thanked them for coming in and serve them with a smile.

                        If it gets real busy behind the bar, however, those that tip do get served quicker. Also, always tried to have a regular customer's drink sitting on the bar waiting for them once I saw them coming in the door.

                        The idea of having your hand out (literally) expecting a tip is sheer idiocy.

                        Today, I tip well on the road if the service warrants it. If it wasn't I tip less, if it sucks I don't tip them at all.
                        -digital dean

                        No "TROLLS" allowed!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by digitaldean
                          Today, I tip well on the road if the service warrants it. If it wasn't I tip less, if it sucks I don't tip them at all.
                          That's as it should be...
                          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by digitaldean
                            Used to waiter and bartend. Without tipping, the crap you have to put up with for the base pay one would get isn't worth it.
                            Ya, but if there was no tipping, wages would go up to attract workers, and prices would rise to compensate.

                            I'm assuming it would be a wash, in terms of costs/income, although can't know for sure.

                            I find tipping unpleasant. I always tip the same amount, regardless of the service, because I don't want to judge why the service was poor, and potentially punish the wrong person.


                            OK, here's what I want to know: what do people out there tip? I always tip at least 15%, and most often 20%. I used to leave 15% consistently, but lately I learned they expect a little more. (It seems like a long time ago 10% was standard, it keeps creeping up.)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MJZiggy
                              Originally posted by digitaldean
                              Today, I tip well on the road if the service warrants it. If it wasn't I tip less, if it sucks I don't tip them at all.
                              That's as it should be...
                              How do you know the service isn't bad because they are understaffed? You can't really tell. Why punish the waitstaff?

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