Calling Whitetail hunters

[Harlan Huckleby]

I was just thinking about American Indians. They worshipped the animals they killed. Thanked them for bringing them sustenance. There was respect for life there.

Killing for sport is different. I'm not against hunting. But bow hunting bothers me, it seems like there is no respect for the animal as another feeling creature. Head buried in sand.

[Freak Out]

I was just thinking about American Indians. They worshipped the animals they killed. Thanked them for bringing them sustenance. There was respect for life there.

Killing for sport is different. I'm not against hunting. But bow hunting bothers me, it seems like there is no respect for the animal as another feeling creature. Head buried in sand.

I'm strictley a subsistence hunter these days.....even though I could afford to buy all my food. I love to be out in the wilds..and I love to eat wild game. I "get" why people bow hunt...I would never do it but I understand the "sporting" aspect of it. I believe in fair chase and killing them quick.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm strictley a subsistence hunter these days.....even though I could afford to buy all my food. I love to be out in the wilds..and I love to eat wild game. I "get" why people bow hunt...I would never do it but I understand the "sporting" aspect of it. I believe in fair chase and killing them quick.

I understand hunting, fishing. Its in our genes.

I used to trap, for god's sake. I collected pelts like Jeff Dahmer. It was just a Daniel Boone fantasy.

I don't see how it is possible to have "fair chase and killing them quick" with bow hunting. Well, I guess the chase part is more than fair.

[Little Whiskey]

I'm a bow hunter. the reason i started was to be in the woods longer than the two weeks we get for rifle season. Now i love it because you get to see them in a more natural state. their not running spoked cause everyone and their brother is taking shots at them. You watch them much longer. I won't take a shot unless its within 25-30 yards.

every deer taken is going to suffer. unless you are shooting them in the head with a bazooka.....might be a little messy. Most deer don't die right after they are shot. if you wanted that you should tie them up, hold their head still and shoot them point blank. but i guess that wouldn't be hunting, that would be a slaughter house.

[Deputy Nutz]

I was just thinking about American Indians. They worshipped the animals they killed. Thanked them for bringing them sustenance. There was respect for life there.

Killing for sport is different. I'm not against hunting. But bow hunting bothers me, it seems like there is no respect for the animal as another feeling creature. Head buried in sand.

The funny thing is we have better equipment in terms of bow hunting than the Indians and most bow hunters are the most technically sound and most respectful of the animals they hunt.

Putting a razor sharp broad head in to the heart and lungs will kill a deer just as fast as .30 caliber bullet. The only difference is the impact of the bullet, the shock will knock the deer down where it will bleed out. The arrow will do the same damage but it of course doesn't have the same impact as an object traveling 2800 feet per second, the deer will bleed out in about the same time but it will be running instead of just laying there. Whats the difference?

Ethical bow hunters will never take a suspect shot, will hopefully wait until the deer is broadside and less than 35 yards away. Most won't shoot a deer that is more than 25 yards away. I can't speak for all hunters or bow hunters, but taking a less than ethical shot on an animal is questionable at best.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Would hunting be fun if you went out in the woods with paint ball guns?
If you look at Harvey's description of why hunting is so enjoyable, not much changes.

I know it is different to JUST go out in nature to explore and observe, or hunt with a camera. There is some primal satisfaction in actually killing for food.

Maybe in 100 years hunting will be done with something like paint ball guns. I say that because the wilderness areas seem to be shrinking, not because there are too many hunters.

And attitudes towards animals are continually changing. A hundred years ago, the buffalo herds got slaughtered by people shooting at them from trains.

[Little Whiskey]

Would hunting be fun if you went out in the woods with paint ball guns?

I haven't aquired the taste for paint.

[Harlan Huckleby]

ya, paintball hunting does seem a little ridiculous.

but real hunting is ridiculous too. it's a bit like dressing-up and pretending to be Daniel Boone, or playing cowboys and Indians. Not unlike those Renissaince Fairs, where people act-out the ways of hundreds of years ago.

But I think hunting is a good thing, it reconnects people to the earth, reminds us we are part of nature. Killing for food is nature. I'm for anything that gets people out in the woods.

[Joemailman]

Der it is boys. Da turdy point buck.

[Deputy Nutz]

ya, paintball hunting does seem a little ridiculous.

but real hunting is ridiculous too. it's a bit like dressing-up and pretending to be Daniel Boone, or playing cowboys and Indians. Not unlike those Renissaince Fairs, where people act-out the ways of hundreds of years ago.

But I think hunting is a good thing, it reconnects people to the earth, reminds us we are part of nature. Killing for food is nature. I'm for anything that gets people out in the woods.

Some people may think throwing an oblong ball made of dead cow skin is a bit ridiculous as well, but I enjoy it.

Why is it ridiculous to kill a deer or any animal when you eat there sustenance that their body has given for you? It is no different than the Indians for me, granted for some it is a trophy and that is it, which is sad.

I enjoy the fact that I can enjoy venison knowing exactly what it wasliving on because I emptied its stomach while gutting it, I know that I am eating the exact animal, instead of a package of ground beef that was most likely made from dozens if not hundreds, maybe thousands of different cows.

I could list a hundred different reasons why I hunt, but I don't have to ever buy johnsonville brats or sausages again if I don't want to, that is reason enough.

[MadtownPacker]

Der it is boys. Da turdy point buck.

What qualifies it as "30" point? Something with the antlers right?

I have never hunted. I did go once with some of my father's family in Mexico. I don't think they shot anything but it was fun. I can understand those who mentioned the bonding and tradition aspects of hunting. It is like a party.

As long as you eat most of what you kill I think there is nothing wrong with hunting. Even if you reach into your fridge to eat a ham sandwich something still died so there is no difference.

I cant believe you guys are buying Harlan's shit. I remember him IMing to me once "I can't eat enough pork, I love eating pork!". The way it came off was in a sick, twisted kind of way.
Yeah he really gives a fuck about animals all right. As long as they are not the ones he is gonna eat.

[GBRulz]

my blue friend......You argue with people that Vick was basically being over punished for his dog fighting and abuse charges, yet you are worried about bow hunting being inhumane??

So, how big of a spoon do you need to keep stirring the pot?

[Harlan Huckleby]

my blue friend......You argue with people that Vick was basically being over punished for his dog fighting and abuse charges, yet you are worried about bow hunting being inhumane??

Dog fighting and hunting both involve suffering of animals for the entertainment of humans. This is indisputable.

When you look at how severe Vick's crime is, I think you have to weigh how society treats animals. It is hypocritical to call for a long prison sentence for dog fighting, and then say bow hunting is fair sport. Its not a black-and-white issue, I thought sending Vick to prison for a year was plenty.

I am for hunters rights. But I question the pleasure of a hunting technique that is not so deadly, too much unnecessary suffering. Maybe some bow hunters are very good at a quick kill, but I'm not convinced that this is typical.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I have never hunted. I did go once with some of my father's family in Mexico. I don't think they shot anything but it was fun.

I think paint ball hunting along the border could be a lot of fun.

As long as you eat most of what you kill I think there is nothing wrong with hunting.

I haven't come down on hunting. I laugh at it a little bit - guys out in the woods pretending to be Davey Crockett - but I understand it. I did lots of hunting, fishing and even trapping back in Pennsylvania, where the copperhead snakes swam with me in my swimming hole. I got woods cred. I pretty much grew up in the woods.

[Little Whiskey]

What qualifies it as "30" point? Something with the antlers right?

yep, count the antler points.