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  • #16
    Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
    They have read some of our posts and they think I am an idiot, yet, my youngest daughter does the same thing on a "Kid Nation" forum.
    Hey, what are computers for if you can't be an idiot online once in a while?
    Enjoy the football.
    Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
    Vince Lombardi

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
      We've been staying together for the kids for years, but now that the girls are old enough to see how deteriorated our relationship is, I think it's better for them to see us both apart and happy rather than together and miserable. And, financially, we are both fine seperately. Neither of us needs each other to support one another, which is going to make it so much easier.
      This is nothing against you personally, but it makes me cringe when people stay together "for their kids". Kids aren't stupid, they know exactly what's going on. I've been through this personally, which is why I'm such a strong advocate of it, I guess. Luckily in the end my parents reconciled, but I remember their initial seperation was the happiest day of my life because my parents could be happy again, they stopped the arguing, the tension in the house was gone, etc.

      I wish you the best in getting through this.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by GBRulz
        Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
        We've been staying together for the kids for years, but now that the girls are old enough to see how deteriorated our relationship is, I think it's better for them to see us both apart and happy rather than together and miserable. And, financially, we are both fine seperately. Neither of us needs each other to support one another, which is going to make it so much easier.
        This is nothing against you personally, but it makes me cringe when people stay together "for their kids". Kids aren't stupid, they know exactly what's going on. I've been through this personally, which is why I'm such a strong advocate of it, I guess. Luckily in the end my parents reconciled, but I remember their initial seperation was the happiest day of my life because my parents could be happy again, they stopped the arguing, the tension in the house was gone, etc.

        I wish you the best in getting through this.
        I second this, having been in the kids role with my parents and in the adult with my wife too (were trying to keep it together). Be honest with your kids when the news hit, they will use this experience as a template when they get older. You can't control how the kids will interpret this situation and they might blame themselves if you're not careful. Its hard work no matter how it plays out, the end of something is almost always painful.

        Good luck and try to have a good Christmas or Holiday, or whatever. I know what you are going through.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
          They have read some of our posts and they think I am an idiot, yet, my youngest daughter does the same thing on a "Kid Nation" forum.

          Yeah right. I have a real hard time believing that they are that immature over at that site.

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          • #20
            Sorry but the option for mods to delete this thread wont happen. It is in the RR and a very valid topic.

            But I voted "don't care" because I think marriage is a sham to begin with.

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            • #21
              Good luck, guy. I am happy for your kids that both you and your wife will be living close together. When the divorce becomes finalized, it will be important for the girls to have close geographical access to both you and their mother.

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              • #22
                My parents bad mouthed the other to my sister and I our whole lives.

                I am convinced they are both miserable. Fortunately my sister and I are pretty cool and thus have moved on.

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                • #23
                  Man, all you gotta do is find a girl that looks just like her, nail her, and then dump her, man. Get her of your mind.

                  Your only mistake is that you didn't dump her first. Mrs. 4and12to12and4i s a show pony. You need a stallion, my friend. Walk with us and you walk tall.

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                  • #24
                    I voted "don't care" on this poll, yet had a strong opinion on the lunch poll.

                    There is no such thing as a good divorce, or easy divorce. They vary from horrible to really horrible.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by retailguy
                      Originally posted by 4and12to12and4
                      We've been staying together for the kids for years, but now that the girls are old enough to see how deteriorated our relationship is, I think it's better for them to see us both apart and happy rather than together and miserable. And, financially, we are both fine seperately. Neither of us needs each other to support one another, which is going to make it so much easier.
                      You might be surprised by their reaction.

                      Two people who can reach this decision, and can truly put their children first, may not be in as bad of a place as it seems...

                      In any case, my thoughts are with you... and your wife.


                      geeez retail, you're such a cad - at least wait until the divorce is final.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by oregonpackfan
                        Good luck, guy. I am happy for your kids that both you and your wife will be living close together. When the divorce becomes finalized, it will be important for the girls to have close geographical access to both you and their mother.
                        That's right. No one should move to Waziristan - that's just unfair to the kids. Ya know, now that I think about it, I think I need closer geographical access to my wife.
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • #27
                          I have noticed that the white people I know all have been divorced at least once. You didn't get a many Hispanic couple divorcing before but I think that was on account that the women accepted it. Today's latinas are some picky ass broads. It's the fault of every chump that gives in to one of them.

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                          • #28
                            Fuck it didn't work I am sure you tried, although I can tell you have lived the better part of married life with resentment to the fact that you got married in the first place, maybe you felt like you were missing out on the bachelor life when all your single friends were nailing the fat girls at the bar.

                            Reading what you wrote, it is hard to believe that you ever grew apart, it seems that you were mostly unhappy in your marriage and there was nothing to ever rekindle.

                            Your kids are probably smart enough to realize that the "Big D" is coming, Don't give them any false hope, crush it before the holidays.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                              maybe you felt like you were missing out on the bachelor life when all your single friends were nailing the fat girls at the bar.
                              Do you like cake?

                              Do you like my ass?

                              Do you want to eat cake off my ass?
                              "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by SkinBasket
                                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
                                maybe you felt like you were missing out on the bachelor life when all your single friends were nailing the fat girls at the bar.
                                Do you like cake?

                                Do you like my ass?

                                Do you want to eat cake off my ass?
                                Now there's a line I've never tried...
                                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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