THE draft thread (2013 version)

[3irty1]

12 picks, 2 DT's and one 1 Jarvis Jones remaining.

Also still Werner and Caradine.

[pbmax]

Albert Breer
Sheldon Richardson becomes the 1st interior DL to come off the board ... Better fit for a 3-4 defense than Sharrif Floyd. Good pick by Jets.

[red]

well shit

[RashanGary]

haha, I hate the draft :) :)

[Rastak]

Panthers take Star and off the board....nice pick......


STRENGTHS: Boasts all of the physical traits to ultimately rank as one of the better, more versatile defensive linemen in the NFL.
Flashes an explosive burst off the snap. Possesses the lateral agility and flexibility to slip through gaps and ruin plays before they even have a chance to begin.

Strong, heavy hands to control his opponent and possesses the upper and core strength to simply rag-doll offensive linemen. Possesses a thick, classic Polynesian build well suited to anchoring against the run, making him a natural candidate to play inside at nose guard or defensive tackle, as well as a five-technique defensive end.

Has a developing arm-over swim move to break free from blockers when initially slowed at the point of attack. Locates the ball well and gives good effort in lateral pursuit to make the tackle. Has only average arm length but is very strong, showing the ability to grab and pull down ballcarriers seemingly out of his grasp. Has a short-area burst to close on the ball and can generate impressive explosiveness as a hitter.

Seemed to step up his play against top competition, enjoying some of his best moments against USC (and highly regarded senior center Khaled Holmes), as well as state rivals BYU and Utah State.

WEAKNESSES: The heart condition that was identified at the combine will result in Lotulelei being removed entirely from some teams' draft boards. However, he has passed a battery of medical exams and the team that takes a chance on Lotulelei could wind up with a steal if he proves healthy long-term.

On the field, he battles consistency. Relies too much on his unique physical traits to overcome rather marginal technique. Does not possess an elaborate array of pass rush moves and has just seven sacks in 38 career games at Utah. Too often is stale-mated when his initial burst and power are contained.

Possesses shorter than ideal arms, which contributes to his struggles slipping blocks and his relative lack of passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage (five over his career).

Carries a bit of extra weight around his midsection and played at Snow Junior College in 2008 at more than 350 pounds. Will be slightly older than most prospects (turned 23 in December) after sitting out the 2009 season.

COMPARES TO: Kevin Williams, Minnesota Vikings -- While a touch shorter than the Vikings' former All-Pro, Lotulelei offers a similarly dominant combination of quickness and power and should one day rank among the league's best interior defensive linemen.

[denverYooper]

grand rapids is awesome, i lived there for a couple years after college. lots of religious nuts, but other then that its a great area

great bars and breweries, so decent colleges, and close to some amazing beaches on lake michigan

its big, but not too big

Grand Rapids is pretty sweet. I dated a girl from Grand Rapids. She loved to smoke weed and fuck.

[red]

Also still Werner and Caradine.

don't want either

[Rastak]

Also still Werner and Caradine.


Not sure about Werner.....

[3irty1]

I'm ready to trade up for floyd. Star is a bit slow for us IMO.

[pbmax]

I'm ready to trade up for floyd. Star is a bit slow for us IMO.

If Saints go OLB, can you convince the Bills to trade down to 26?

[Rastak]

If Saints go OLB, can you convince the Bills to trade down to 26?


They might....I think I would. Provided packers fork over the picks

[The Shadow]

Margus Hunt for the Green Bay Packers!

[3irty1]

If Saints go OLB, can you convince the Bills to trade down to 26?

I can convince them to start the QB run maybe.

[pbmax]

Peter King has Saints with S Vacarro

[RashanGary]

The draft coverage is usually pretty accurate for those first 15-20 picks. There will be some surprises before we pick tho.

[red]

Grand Rapids is pretty sweet. I dated a girl from Grand Rapids. She loved to smoke weed and fuck.

she must have been a regular at the purple east

[Rastak]

Saints take Vaccaro - a little surprise to me........thought they would grab Floyd.....

Strengths: Prototypical size and build for the position. Possesses a high-cut frame with good overall musculature. Shows very good straight-line speed, agility, balance and hip flexibility. Athleticism for coverage duties are enhanced by Vaccaro's vision and instincts. Quickly locates the ball and shows an understanding of route-progression, rarely getting caught out of position.
Often asked to drop down from his free safety position to cover the slot, demonstrating a smooth backpedal, hip turn and the burst out of his breaks to stay in the hip pocket of his opponent. Hasn't generated the number of interceptions of prior UT defensive backs, but has good ball skills and showed greater willingness to jump routes as a senior.

Highly aggressive run defender. Flies to the line in run support, demonstrating a physical pop and generally reliable open-field tackling skills. Possesses the long, strong arms for the drag-down tackle, as well as good closing speed in pursuit and on the occasional blitz.

Weaknesses: Can get out of control in his aggression toward the line of scrimmage. Will duck his head in his attempt to make the big hit and leave cut-back lanes for patient, explosive runners to take full advantage. Must do a better job of wrapping up, rather than leading with his shoulder.

Hasn't shown the consistency as ballhawk considering his hype, recording only five interceptions in 51 career games. Teams will want to ask Vaccaro about a few run-ins with authorities. He was reportedly arrested following a fight with another Texas student in 2009 and again in 2012 after failing to obey a lawful order, a misdemeanor.

Compares To: Eric Weddle, FS, San Diego Chargers -- Like the highly instinctive and versatile Weddle, Vaccaro has the athleticism and size to line up wherever his NFL team needs him most. Vaccaro hasn't yet shown the same ball skills as the Chargers' Pro Bowler but showed signs of improving in this area as a senior.

[Rastak]

Now it starts to get interesting for us Packer and Viking fans.......Bills on the clock....take a QB please.....

[RashanGary]

Safety class might be all it's been hyped up to be. I've heard people who like Elam and Reid over Vaccarro.

[Smeefers]

Yep, this is about the limit I figure TT will draft up.

[Guiness]

So do the Bills take Nassib? Rumour was they want him, but #8 was just too high. Did they trade back to get him for better value?

[pittstang5]

Wow, This doesn't help us trading down. Stupid Bills

[Rastak]

Bills take EJ Manual - wow...Mayock called it......

Strengths: Looks the part with a solid frame and is an intelligent, articulate, mature young man well-suited to handling the role as the face of the franchise. Strong arm -- can make every throw, including some dazzling passes that only a small number of NFL quarterbacks can make. Accurate deep passer and has excellent touch overall. Flashes good to very good accuracy on in-breaking routes over the middle. A terror when he runs with the ball - he's much faster than his frame would indicate and can be a bullish runner as needed. Has a smooth, gliding style of running with deceptive top-end speed.
Weaknesses: Isn't the sum of his parts and did not make noticeable improvements to his game in 2012. Needs work on his setup and delivery. While possessing plenty of arm strength, he has a noticeable hitch in his delivery which gives defenders an extra split second to react and limits Manuel's effectiveness in the "quick" game. Has a tendency to stare down primary target. Average accuracy in the pocket and will get "happy feet" when pressured. Very boor ball security when on the move.

[red]

LOL

just like when everyone thought pete carrol would want taylor mays, and he wanted nothing to do with him

[Guiness]

Wow, EJ Manuel! He was ranked as a 3rd tier guy in all the rankings I saw - didn't see him higher than the 4th ranked QB after Smith, Barkley and Nassib.

[Rastak]

Seen some mocks with the Steelers grabbing Jarvis Jones......

[pbmax]

Steelers taking Jarvis Jones

[3irty1]

I thought he'd be a first rounder but I was pretty darn sure Geno would go first.

[red]

Yep, this is about the limit I figure TT will draft up.

i don't think ted would give up a second and a first to move up

maybe a first and third. then we're talking about the 20th or so pick. get us in front of minnie

[denverYooper]

she must have been a regular at the purple east

That's a head shop, hey? We went there a few times.

[RashanGary]

Vaccarro and EJ Manuel, two nice picks!!

[red]

Seen some mocks with the Steelers grabbing Jarvis Jones......

i've seen a few of those too. perfect fit

[pbmax]

Cowboys trying to go down Atlanta and possibly San Fran interested

[red]

That's a head shop, hey? We went there a few times.

head shop and the place to buy your whips and chains

[OS PA]

I think Eifert to the Steelers.

[denverYooper]

she must have been a regular at the purple east

That and the Meijer parking lot, where there was a small alternative pharmacy industry.

[pittstang5]

The pick is in and you go to commercial? Clowns, you're all clowns!

[3irty1]

So hard to say where Jones goes without knowing what his doctors know. He could fall way way further.

[pbmax]

There has been a trade

49ers

Jason LaConfora
There you have it. Been reporting for days the 49ers would be bold and had players targeted for move up. They have Dallas pick

[Rastak]

Why all these F'ing commercials? It's a Damn live event, not a start stop football game.......jesus....

[Rastak]

Who is running this shitty show......

[Rastak]

Hurry it the fuck up Godell

[pittstang5]

Crap, SF moved up

[red]

well, theres the next stud steeler LB

[gbpackfan]

49ers are about to fuck us over.

[Rastak]

Steelers take Jarvis Jones....


Strengths: Elite playmaker off the edge. Possesses an explosive burst to complement very good timing to consistently cross the face of offensive tackles and get them backpedaling. Has enough flexibility to dip under their reach and close on the quarterback, demonstrating strong hands and an eye for ripping the ball free for the sack and forced fumble. Stronger than he looks and has an effective bull-rush. Also uses this strength to be surprisingly effective in setting the edge despite routinely giving up 70-plus pounds to opponents. Locates the ball quickly and pursues with passion. Athletic enough to drop back into coverage.
Weaknesses: Size limitations. Possesses an impressive build but a frame that may not have much room for additional mass. Relies an awful lot on speed, showing few complementary pass rush moves. Was diagnosed with a spinal stenosis condition while at USC, a condition which has led some notable NFL players to end their careers rather abruptly, including San Diego Chargers Pro Bowl left tackle Marcus McNeill a year ago at just 28 years old.

Compares To: Von Miller, OLB, Denver Broncos -- Jones isn't quite as explosive off the snap or as reliable an open-field tackler as Miller but he's close. The medical concerns are frightening but make no mistake, Jones is a Pro Bowl talent whose impact in the NFL will be immediate.

[3irty1]

well whe know what comes next now.

[OS PA]

Eric Reid - 49ers?

[red]

wow, they moved way up for just a 3rd round pick

[gbpackfan]

Oh, thank god!

[red]

both safeties i liked are gone

[RashanGary]

Whoa, Eric Reid!! Gotta admit, I'm happy to see the 9ers end up with a safety. . .

[Rastak]

49ers move up and get Reid.....makes sense actually....


Strengths: Possesses the prototypical frame for the position, boasting wide shoulders, long arms and a tapered frame. Reid is a fantastic downhill athlete with quick read-and-react ability to attack the play with steam spurting from his ears. He might be the explosive hitter from the safety position in the 2013 draft, closing with the speed and physicality of a linebacker rather than a defensive back.
Possesses the size and athleticism combination teams are desperate to find to counter the hybrid receiver/tight ends taking over the seams. Doesn't possess top flexibility but accelerates surprisingly well for his length and has good straight-line speed, overall. Physical with receivers downfield and plays 50-50 balls well, using his size and strength to his advantage.

Weaknesses: Reid's biggest strength is also his greatest weakness. He plays with nonstop aggressiveness and intensity, but he doesn't always control that hostility in a smart way on the football field. He throws his body around and might be the most violent striker in the SEC, but if Reid doesn't learn how to play smarter and harness his fierce playing style then he'll have a tough time making a living in the NFL.

He is a bit stiff in coverage and can be beaten by quicker slot receivers. Has been protected by some awfully talented cornerbacks throughout his career and wasn't the playmaker in 2012 he had been the past two seasons with Claiborne and Mathieu no longer on the roster.

Compares To: LaRon Landry, FS, New York Jets -- Reid signed with LSU patterning his game after the former Tigers' standout and it shows in his physique and bone-jarring hits. Of concern to scouts is the fact that Reid, like Landry, is a bit stiff and not as fast on the field in deep coverage as he may test during workouts.

[gbpackfan]

Packers were never going to take him. Medical issues. He was off their board.

[Fosco33]

Doh

[pbmax]

They needed a safety. Wonder if Woodson is still on their list

[pittstang5]

wow, they moved way up for just a 3rd round pick

That's what I thought too

[Rastak]

Floyd still there......

[3irty1]

wow, they moved way up for just a 3rd round pick

Whaaa? Does Floyd have cancer or something?

[RashanGary]

1st and 3rd. . . . Teams must feel there are a lot of similar players in this stretch.

[pbmax]

Jason LaCanfora
League confirms that it was in fact a swap of 1st rnd picks for Dallas and SF, with the Cowboys also picking up #74 in 3rd round

[OS PA]

I hope the Giants take Floyd so the Bears don't get him. Although I hate the fucking Giants.

[Rastak]

Whaaa? Does Floyd have cancer or something?


Is he in the Green Room or in jail somewhere?

[red]

i'm guessing if ted wanted to, he could move up for maybe just a 4th right now

but is there anyone ted likes?

trade up for teo before the bears get him. trading urlacher for teo would suck for us

[Smeefers]

i don't think ted would give up a second and a first to move up

maybe a first and third. then we're talking about the 20th or so pick. get us in front of minnie

Sounds about right.

[Rastak]

Jason LaCanfora
League confirms that it was in fact a swap of 1st rnd picks for Dallas and SF, with the Cowboys also picking up #74 in 3rd round

Thanks for chasing the trade details down.

[RashanGary]

Dashon Gholston is an amazing player. No way this rookie comes in and does what 31 did for them.

[red]

They needed a safety. Wonder if Woodson is still on their list

woodson might be back on our list after the draft

[pbmax]

Jason LaCanfora
Giants have selected Justin Pugh, T from Syracuse. 7 OL gone

[denverYooper]

Wow. Pack will have some pretty good choices.

[Rastak]

I didn't think the Vikings would trade up despite the "jump ahead of the bears" rumors......draft is too deep here.

[3irty1]

Jason LaCanfora
Giants have selected Justin Pugh, T from Syracuse. 7 OL gone

That rules

[red]

Jason LaCanfora
Giants have selected Justin Pugh, T from Syracuse. 7 OL gone

wow

[RashanGary]

When we lost Collins, it hurt, bad. . . . I have a feeling SF is going to feel that loss. This rookie doesn't do it for me. I just doubt it.

[pittstang5]

WTF the pick is in. it's been in for a while now. Pathetic

[Rastak]

Giants take an OL Pugh

STRENGHTS: Experienced player who started every game he played over three seasons. Effortless mover for a 290-pound tackle with good body control and coordination to take on blocks and mirror rushers in space. Good combination of speed and athleticism enables him to reach the second level as fast as any offensive lineman in this class. High ceiling.
WEAKNESSES: Has the mobility and body control to protect the edge, but he has suspect core strength and struggles to properly use his hands to control rushers at the point of attack. Pugh also lacks the length (31.5-inch arms) and growth potential to convince NFL teams he can stay at left tackle. Needs to continue to fill out his frame and spend more time in the weight room. Left shoulder injury from 2012 warrants medical evaluation.

[Rastak]

Matt Williamson "I thought Pugh would go to the Packers"

[RashanGary]

Floyd makes a lot of sense for Chicago.

[pbmax]

Bears liked Manti Te'o, but do they like him enough to go here? TE Tyler Eifert still out there.

[3irty1]

Please let the Bears take Teo.

[OS PA]

TE - Eifert
DT - Williams, Floyd
ILB - Teo
WR - Patterson

Could potentially go next 5 picks.

[pittstang5]

Rich Eisen has a hard on for Teo. Pissing me off. STFU

[Rastak]

Please let the Bears take Teo.


They need a MLB....Ogletree sort of soft against the run. Dude has 4 years of solid production so I'm not sure I want him in Chicago.....not sure I want him in Minnesota either, dead girlfriend gives me the willies.....

[pbmax]

Does Floyd fit the Packer D?

Jinx engaged.

[pittstang5]

Floyd makes a lot of sense for Chicago.

Yep or o-line, but pickins are slim for o-line

[RashanGary]

If I'm the Bears, I'd love to get rid of Cutler. He's the worst guy ever. I'm just glad he's in our division.

[red]

John Cyprien for us?

[pbmax]

WOW

JasonLaCanfora
Bears have taken OL Kyle Long from Oregon.

[OS PA]

OT - Oregon - Kyle Long

[3irty1]

They need a MLB....Ogletree sort of soft against the run. Dude has 4 years of solid production so I'm not sure I want him in Chicago.....not sure I want him in Minnesota either, dead girlfriend gives me the willies.....

He's soooooooooo easy to make fun of though.

[red]

LOL

thanks bears

[denverYooper]

Wow

[pittstang5]

Holy Shit. Ha ha Suck it Bears

[Guiness]

1st and 3rd. . . . Teams must feel there are a lot of similar players in this stretch.

End of the 3rd, and they moved up 13 spots for that price.

Apparently the 'boys are a team that doesn't pay attention to the JJ chart, kind of ironic, isn't it?

[RashanGary]

OMG, I'd love OL too, but holy crap. . . . . . . There are some guys starting to slip.

[3irty1]

Long live the Bears GM!

[Rastak]

Bears take Long G - they do need some OL help...


STRENGTHS: Certainly looks the part. Possesses a naturally large frame with long arms. Impressive athlete. Light on his feet and possesses good balance and flexibility for a man of his size.
Very mobile. Often asked to block on the move in this scheme, demonstrating very good lateral agility and straight-line speed, as well as the short-area quickness to adjust and hit the moving target. Flashs some nastiness to his game. Doesn't back down from physical challenges. Has heavy hands and can stun opponents with his initial punch.

Keeps his legs driving on contact and can move defenders out of the hole. Enjoyed a solid performance in the Senior Bowl, itself, after missing a few days of practice with the flu. Clear talent and is just scratching the surface of his potential.

WEAKNESSES: Isn't the sum of his parts yet. Has rotated between left tackle and left guard over just two seasons playing on the offensive line and has been protected a bit by Oregon's quick-hitting scheme which rarely asks their offensive linemen to maintain blocks for very long.

Has a tendency to punch at his defender, rather than latch on and needs to develop better hand placement, in general. Athletic enough to adjust on the fly but lacks experience and is prone to mental errors against surprise stunts, blitzes.

Was unable to compete for the most important two days of practice at the Senior Bowl (Tuesday, Wednesday) due to a bout of the flu, missing out on a chance to impress scouts. His DUI charge while at Florida State will have to be investigated by teams.

Compares to: Jason Peters, OT, Philadelphia Eagles -- Peters was originally a defensive lineman before making the transition to tight end in college and ultimately emerging as a quality offensive tackle for the Bills (and later signing with the Eagles).

His impressive combination of size and athleticism gave him a shot at the NFL despite having no experience as an offensive lineman. Long is similarly large and athletic but has two years head start on Peters and, of course, has his famous family to help him get an opportunity in the league. A team willing to gamble on his significant upside could win big.

[pbmax]

Ras

JasonLaCanfora: Obviously some great bloodlines with Kyle Long. Didn't buy the smoke on Chicago taking Manti ... but the Vikes very well might

[Rastak]

He's soooooooooo easy to make fun of though.


Until he starts producing, then the juice fails....of course if he sucks it could be the gift that keeps on giving.

[The Shadow]

The Bears are as dumb as ever!

[3irty1]

I'm all about dufuses like Teo going to divison rivals.

[pittstang5]

Theory

Pack trades down with Jets (2nd round) Jets take Geno Smith?

[Rastak]

Ras

JasonLaCanfora: Obviously some great bloodlines with Kyle Long. Didn't buy the smoke on Chicago taking Manti ... but the Vikes very well might


I agree, great production over a full college career. I'm not 100% sold though......I kind of like Arthur Brown as a MLB. Take Patterson or Robert Woods and Sylvester Williams then try and move up.

[pbmax]

All the Oregon footage had Long at Guard. Will he play tackle in the NFL?

[RashanGary]

Floyd must be not be a very good guy. . . You see it all of the time, the teams that take character problems end up with just that, problems.

[Rastak]

Announce the fucking pick

[Guiness]

Wow, 4 guards in the first round, including 2 in the top 10. Has that happened before? I mean in an era that someone other than Patler remembers?

[gbpackfan]

ATL just traded in front of us. There goes Eiffert!!!!! FUCK

[wist43]

I read about a scout saying Kyle Long is complete idiot... said he never shuts up, very immature, always screwing around during practice.

Good for the Bears.

[pbmax]

Eifert to Gals

[3irty1]

Until he starts producing, then the juice fails....of course if he sucks it could be the gift that keeps on giving.

Urlacher produced like crazy. But he still made a perfect face for the bears IMO. Weird guy who said dumb shit. Easy to hate. At least Teo is weird.

[gbpackfan]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[red]

hmmm

this is getting interesting

[Rastak]

Bengals take Tyler Eifert

STRENGTHS: Solid frame with fluid body control and ballskills. Tough in a crowd, showing strong hands to make contested catches and a physical demeanor to come down with the ball in tight spaces.
Does a nice job gaining position in coverage with very good footwork, taking pride in his routes and showing much improvement in this area. Elevates well to go up and attack the ball, just needs a chance and chances are he'll come down with it - very good at mid-air adjustments, making a lot of catches with his feet off the ground.

Strong at the line of scrimmage to release and beat press coverage, using his hands and size very well. Has an excellent sense of his surroundings and always knows where the sticks are located, getting turned to show his QB his numbers. Willing blocker and doesn't shy from contact, flashing the aggressiveness and take-on strength to sustain, seal and finish in the run game.

Lines up in-line, in the slot and outside the numbers, showing the versatility to put his hand on the ground and hold his own in the trenches. Team-first guy and proudly wore the "C" on his jersey, giving full effort whether as a receiver or blocker.

Was productive in his three seasons, leaving Notre Dame with just about every school receiving record for a tight end including catches (140) and receiving yards (1,840). Eifert was a Mackey Award finalist in 2011 before winning the award in 2012.

WEAKNESSES: Has done a nice job adding weight to his frame, but appears maxed out physically. Lacks elite quickness in his break to consistently separate and is still growing as a route-runner. Has good, but not great, straight-line speed and can be caught from behind by linebackers. Will have some dropped passes at times and, while not a large concern, has room to improve his focus through the catch. Still growing as a blocker and needs to use better angles.

COMPARES TO: Heath Miller, TE, Steelers - While more athletic than Miller, Eifert has a similar skill-set with his ability to make tough catches in tight spaces, winning one-on-one situations. Also has the speed to be a threat vertically or down the seam.

[pbmax]

Rams trade to Falcons

[RashanGary]

Gresham, Eifert and Green. . . Wow!

[pbmax]

Jason LaCanfora

Atlanta moves up as expected and well see if its for CB Des Trufant.

[red]

Wow, 4 guards in the first round, including 2 in the top 10. Has that happened before? I mean in an era that someone other than Patler remembers?

lol

[3irty1]

I think if I were the Vikings I'd grab Ogletree.

[Rastak]

Falcons submitted their pick - common nfl, jesus

[pbmax]

confirmed

And indeed the Falcons moved up for CB Des Trufant

[Rastak]

I think if I were the Vikings I'd grab Ogletree.


Can't play the run......but I wouldn't be pissed if they did. Te'o would be ok I guess but I have a feeling he may end up just a guy.

[RashanGary]

Dalton can move around, those three big targets. . . . Gotta think their redzone offense is going to be really friggin good.

[pbmax]

The Rams pick up 92nd overall pick and a 6th, while the Falcons move up and get a 7th rounder in 2015

[Bretsky]

confirmed

And indeed the Falcons moved up for CB Des Trufant

Just back from running a 1st time homebuyers seminar in Madison

Got two words

FUCKING 49ERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gbpackfan]

NFL is dragging this shit out beyond belief. What is the point of the ten minute time limit if the pick sits in Roger's hoof for 5 minutes???

[Travbrew]

Falcons submitted their pick - common nfl, jesus

Talking commercial break? yeah, of course. How about the propaganda piece WRT tackling with heads up and training coaches to teach it? OY!

[RashanGary]

Falcons room looks very tense. . . Nobody sitting down.

[Packgator]

the Falcons move up and get a 7th rounder in 2015

A 7th rounder in 2015?

[Rastak]

Falcons take (zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz) fucking hurry up

[Smeefers]

I think if I were the Vikings I'd grab Ogletree.

I agree, I see the vikes going oogletree and patterson.

[OS PA]

Vikings are going to take Shariff Floyd, and either Teo or Cordarelle Patterson. Great picks.

[Rastak]

Falcons take Trufant

Strengths: Athletic with fluid footwork, flashing the foot agility to drive quickly on the play. Looks natural in space, staying balanced with the hips and transition skills to redirect in any direction. Physical and fights for the ball when it's in the air, showing an excellent competitive nature. Doesn't shy from contact and will get his nose dirty in run support. Very good job tracking and highpointing with a top vertical to get his hands on the ball. Good bloodlines and understands the NFL process. Good experience as a four-year starter (47 career starts), spending time both inside and outside and in both man and zone coverage.
Weaknesses: Narrow torso, lean muscle tone and only average length. Opens his hips too early to protect against speed and needs to stay under control in his movements. Streaky technique once the ball in snapped and reverts to bad habits, relying on his natural athleticism over fundamentals. Lacks elite top-end speed and can be beat vertically. Inconsistent tackling technique, hitting too high and lacking the strength to consistently finish. Plays close to the line of scrimmage but doesn't make much contact and needs to improve his body position downfield. Too much of a grabber. Nagging hamstring injury late in 2012.

[3irty1]

Can't play the run......but I wouldn't be pissed if they did. Te'o would be ok I guess but I have a feeling he may end up just a guy.

He could bust in the style of that Wake Forest guy with his tackling. I think he'll do much better at his NFL playing weight. What's weird is he does better vs lineman than he does vs ball carriers.

[RashanGary]

Wow, Vikes pick already in. They must like the guy they got.

[Rastak]

Vikings are going to take Shariff Floyd, and either Teo or Cordarelle Patterson. Great picks.


Sounds likely....can't believe Floyd is there.....

[red]

well here you go ras

2 of the next 3 picks

in 45 minutes we should know who those two players are

[Bretsky]

well we got that regular and post season bullshit out of the way

time for the fun time of the year

does anyone have anything on Alec Ogletree?

dudes a fast 6'3 230-235 pound turnover machine at ILB. he started out in college playing safety, kind of like what that urlacher guy did. imo he would be a nice flash to bishops thunder

he's a junior, but kiper has him as maybe the best junior ILB in the nation



I am on board with this....I want a pass rusher....not a plugger

[pbmax]

A 7th rounder in 2015?

Well, maybe not

Rams Team Twitter
The #Rams have traded the 22nd overall pick to the @Atlanta_Falcons for picks 30, 92 and 198. #RamsDraft

[Bretsky]

I WANT FLOYD !!

[red]

announce the fucking pick

can goodell do anything right?

[pbmax]

DAMN

Vikings took Sharrif Floyd. His drop is over. Too much value to pass

[red]

the only way goodell can get a cheer

more time wasting

[Smeefers]

Screw the vets! I want the draft!

[Rastak]

DAMN

Vikings took Sharrif Floyd. His drop is over. Too much value to pass


Not shocked at a DT.........works for me!

[pbmax]

If its ILB, I say Minter rather than Ogletree.

DL everyone predicted is still available.

[rbaloha1]

hunt or teo

[red]

floyd is a waste to the vikings. 5 career sacks.

he's a space eater, and a pass rusher

[Rastak]

Let's conduct a fucking parade while the teams keeps picking.

[denverYooper]

I read about a scout saying Kyle Long is complete idiot... said he never shuts up, very immature, always screwing around during practice.

Good for the Bears.

So he'll be a good fit with Cutler.

[3irty1]

Every Viking draft pick burns. Not because of the Players they get... because its clear they've found a GM.

[gbpackfan]

That sucks

[red]

colts pick is already in before queens pick is announced

fucking shameful goodell.

stay right there and announce the next pick

[Rastak]

Vikings get Floyd

STRENGTHS: Has a naturally powerful frame with wide shoulders, a surprisingly trim waistline and the thick lower-half conducive to anchoring as a two-gap defender and run-stuffing presence in the middle. Flashes a terrific initial burst off the snap, showing the quickness to split gaps or even challenge lethargic offensive tackles when he's asked to line up wide.
Uses his hands well to chop at blockers attempting to latch on to his chest, ripping away and showing a nice over-arm swim move. Good lateral agility to "get skinny" through gaps and shows enough short-area quickness to close when the ballcarrier is near. Has made gains each of his three seasons of collegiate football and could be just scratching the surface of his potential.

WEAKNESSES: Remains rough around the edges. While quick off the snap, Floyd has a tendency to lose sight of the ball and get too caught up in hand-fighting with offensive linemen. Some of this is due to the fact that he often stands up at the snap, losing his natural leverage advantage, as well as his impressive combination of burst and strength.

Has great initial quickness but does not appear to have the sustained quickness to translate into a consistent interior pass rush threat -- at least not against today's increasingly mobile dual-threat passers.

COMPARES TO: Corey Liuget, DL, San Diego Chargers -- Athletic, strong and capable of emerging as a standout as either a 3-4 defensive end or 4-3 defensive tackle, Floyd has talent and upside to virtually guarantee at top 10 selection despite the fact that he has flashed more than dominated throughout his collegiate career.

[red]

packers are gonna be on the clock in a couple minutes here

[RashanGary]

Ugh. . . Nice pick, rastak. This slide helps him. He needs some humility. Wish he wouldn't have gotten it before going to the Vikings.

[rbaloha1]

jesse williams

[pbmax]

Jason LaCanfora

The Colts selected Bjoern Werner and the Vikings are back on the clock. So there goes one of those pass rushers

[Smeefers]

Every Viking draft pick burns. Not because of the Players they get... because its clear they've found a GM.

I've recently looked over the past few Vike drafts and I have to agree with you.

[Packgator]

floyd is a waste to the vikings.

Vikings can have him.

[Rastak]

Ugh. . . Nice pick, rastak. This slide helps him. He needs some humility. Wish he wouldn't have gotten it before going to the Vikings.

Thanks I'd like to se robert Woods or Cordarrell Patterson up next......

[pittstang5]

The way this is going, I want Datone Jones or Margus Hunt

[RashanGary]

Vikings can have him.

Really, what's so bad about him? Guy is a fucking powerhouse.

[The Shadow]

Humt!

[red]

ANNOUNCE THE FUCKING PICK

why have the fucking clock?

but if a player were to take an extra 5 seconds to celebrate a TD, he's be suspended

[pbmax]

ANNOUNCE THE FUCKING PICK

why have the fucking clock?

but if a player were to take an extra 5 seconds to celebrate a TD, he's be suspended

The Vikes took CB Xavier Rhodes. So no Manti yet

[gbpackfan]

Call the picks

[red]

two picks in

we're on the clock

WTF is going on?

[Rastak]

Colts take Werner per PB.........

STRENGTHS: Werner has good get-off quickness and bend to beat blockers off the snap. Natural instincts and upside makes him an attractive pass-rushing prospect for teams selecting in the top five. Still developing, with a high ceiling, but already shows outstanding football awareness, reading the ballcarrier and batting down passes at the line of scrimmage. Strong hands to win the edge and get around blockers, using his body strength and feet to flatten to the pocket.
WEAKNESSES: Lacks elite length for the position and doesn't have the natural start/stop explosion of some pass rushers. Will lose leverage at times, especially off the snap when he gets too high out of his stance. Has improved his awareness against the run, but still has room to improve his ability to sift through the trash and defeat off-balance blocks.

Motor tends to run hot/cold at times, especially late in games or if the play isn't to his side of the field. Needs to consistently finish when he gets his hands on the ballcarrier. Has a history of minor injuries, including a left hand issue that bothered him this past season.

COMPARES TO: Chris Long, DE, St. Louis Rams - Both have a combination of quickness and strength combined with a nonstop motor to consistently pressure the pocket off the edge.

[pbmax]

Aaron Rodgers12
Hang in there Geno, "good things come to those who wait" -Paul Tagliabue

[RashanGary]

Sly Williams? McGinn hit on on the head?

[gbpackfan]

CALL THE GOD DAMN PICKS RODGER! YOU STUPID HUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rastak]

The Vikes took CB Xavier Rhodes. So no Manti yet


AWESOME.............WR's will be there perhaps in round three

[red]

The Vikes took CB Xavier Rhodes. So no Manti yet

hmm, teo for us?

if not, please trade down

[Bretsky]

Just do it; Just trade down

[Rastak]

Per PB, Vikings take Rhodes....

STRENGTHS: Rhodes is strong for the position with a solidly-built frame and excellent arm length. He loves to jam and get physical in press coverage, getting in the face of receivers at the line of scrimmage and staying aggressive through the whistle.
Rhodes has very good click-and-close ability with strong plant-and-go burst to drive on plays in front of him, undercutting routes and knocking down passes. He does a nice job getting his head around to locate and high point with very good leaping ability and timing. Rhodes can flip his hips and easily change directions with a near-effortless transition, showing the ability to adjust and contort his body.

He is confident and instinctive in coverage, coming off his man to make a play on the ball with very good ballskills. Rhodes does a nice job defeating blocks to be a factor against the run and is a punishing striker, making the decleating hit if it's there.

He has very good experience with 39 career starts, finishing his collegiate career with eight interceptions and 31 passes defended.

WEAKNESSES: Rhodes tends to get too physical in tight coverage, playing too hands-on and grabby, which will attract pass interference penalties. He plays very aggressive with the ball in the air, but makes too much contact and needs to pay more attention to body position.

Rhodes needs to show better discipline and is susceptible to play fakes and misdirection. He lacks elite long-speed and isn't a quick-twitch type of athlete. Rhodes needs to stay assignment-sound holding contain against the run. He needs to eliminate the penalties and stay focused, controlling his intensity.

COMPARES TO: Aqib Talib, CB, New England Patriots - While Rhodes isn't quite as fast as Talib despite a fast 40 clocking at the combine, he doesn't have the same character concerns, either. But both do have tall, long frames with a knack for making plays on the ball when it's in the air.

[George Cumby]

Why did it take so long for Werner to get taken? I thought he was supposed to be awesome?

[red]

so, who did we take PB?

our pick should be on by now

[RashanGary]

AR still watching the draft, still pissed off LMFAO

[rbaloha1]

Vikings can have him.

looks good to me. mayock rates him as being the most explosive tackle. great one gapper that goes sideline to sideline.

[pittstang5]

How the hell are you getting this info before it's announced

[3irty1]

I don't want say that Geno Smith is the BPA available but.....

[Fosco33]

Trade down plz

[red]

no its not teo mayock, because the pick was made 10 minutes ago and the whole world knows who it is

[rbaloha1]

lacy

[pbmax]

Almost too many options for Thompson here. Seems like a trade down. Jacksonville rumored, along with Eagles, looking to get back into the 1st round.

[Bretsky]

To me Teo is very average in our defense

[Packgator]

Really, what's so bad about him? Guy is a fucking powerhouse.

I've heard lazy. That's only based on what I've heard.

[Rastak]

How the hell are you getting this info before it's announced Jason canfora tweets

[red]

AND...........

commercial, right on fucking cue

thats like 15 years in a row

[pbmax]

How the hell are you getting this info before it's announced

NFL can only control ESPN and NFL folks. CBS, NBC and FoxSports are all free and clear to report. King has had a few very early. LaCanfora has them minutes before

[Bretsky]

Trade down to sombody wanting to move up to get Geno; no brainer here imo

[red]

To me Teo is very average in our defense

cheaper alternative to hawk with about the same ability is the only reason i'm thinking we should take him

[pbmax]

Packers

Jason LaCanfora
The Packers took Datone Jones and the pass rushers keep going

[rbaloha1]

cyprien to the packers

[red]

datone jones it is

[gbgary]

AND...........

commercial, right on fucking cue

thats like 15 years in a row

lol...got that right.

[3irty1]

Where we're going we don't need Rhodes...

[Bretsky]

Floyd...Vikings get an elite talent with character concerns and that is why he dropped; they then get a stellar CB

There GM ....imo.....is doing things the right way. If their QB develops they will be scary soon

[red]

another tweener for us that needs to add weight to work out

yippie

[rbaloha1]

do not like datone jones -- mcginn was right

[Rastak]

Packers get Datone Jones......

STRENGTHS: Well-built athlete with long arms and good strength, throughout. Flashes an explosive initial burst off the snap to penetrate gaps. Uses his hands well at the snap to rip free from blocks, showing a variety of pass rush techniques (swim, rip, club), as well as enough power to simply bull over offensive linemen into the backfield.
Keeps his head up and locates the football quickly, showing good awareness and effort in pursuit. Has the upper-body strength to lock-out opponents and seal the edge. Stout enough to slide inside to defensive tackle, especially on obvious pass rush downs. Enjoyed a breakout senior campaign and may be just scratching the surface of his potential.

WEAKNESSES: A classic 'tweener who until his senior season hadn't ever lived up to expectations. Lacks the sustained speed and flexibility to turn the corner as a traditional 4-3 defensive end. Lacks the bulk to handle full-time duties as a traditional defensive tackle. Has a tendency to stand up as he comes off the ball, losing out on the leverage battle. Uses his hands well initially but tires quickly and struggles to disengage once his opponent has locked on.

COMPARES TO: Robert Ayers, DE, Denver Broncos -- Like Ayers, Jones has flashed talent throughout his collegiate career but has been racked with inconsistency. His versatility and big senior season could push a team to gamble on his upside early.

[Bretsky]

Datone Jones would be solid

[Guiness]

NFL is dragging this shit out beyond belief. What is the point of the ten minute time limit if the pick sits in Roger's hoof for 5 minutes???

I've got the stream running, but not paying full attention to it. What's going on? Goodell has the pick, but not announcing it so they can get in their analysis, speculation and commercials?

[pbmax]

do not like datone jones -- mcginn was right

Yes on his mock, but McGinn's report was all wrong. Packers apparently do not seem to think bigger is the answer. It was either hearsay or bad interpretation.

[pittstang5]

Beautiful!

[Teamcheez1]

I like the pick.

[denverYooper]

Yes on his mock, but McGinn's report was all wrong. Packers apparently do not seem to think bigger is the answer. It was either hearsay or bad interpretation.

bmginn@journalsentinel.com

[wist43]

Yeah, that's another front seven mess of a pick by TT.

Another tweener that doesn't do anything particularly well.

[Fosco33]

In Ted I trust

[Bretsky]

CHUCKIE.............calls him DIAL TONE JONES..........one of his favorite players in the NFL draft and just predicted many Pro Bowls ahead

[RashanGary]

You gotta like this pick if you're name is Wist!! We're going to have no choice but to play base defense. This guy is a pure 3-4 end. He's not a 2-4 player.

[pbmax]

SC_DougFarrar
Datone Jones = Cullen Jenkins. That's a winner.

[Rastak]

Floyd...Vikings get an elite talent with character concerns and that is why he dropped; they then get a stellar CB

There GM ....imo.....is doing things the right way. If their QB develops they will be scary soon


They have no MLB period. Gotta get one in round 2 and get a wr in 3 .......I like their picks alot.....but I sure wish they could get Robert Woods......

[rbaloha1]

change mind -- a faster cullen jenkins. like it!

[Packgator]

Gruden loves Jones.

[red]

I've got the stream running, but not paying full attention to it. What's going on? Goodell has the pick, but not announcing it so they can get in their analysis, speculation and commercials?

packers were on the clock, and the two picks before them still hadn't been announced

[George Cumby]

Relentless motor is what I read. That's what TT likes, kids who love football.

[pbmax]

bmginn@journalsentinel.com

:D

[red]

SC_DougFarrar
Datone Jones = Cullen Jenkins. That's a winner.

jones-283
jenkins- 305

BIG difference

[RashanGary]

I like this guy too. I thought the Vikings were going to take him right before us, but they had Floyd fall into their lap.

[gbgary]

CHUCKIE.............calls him DIAL TONE JONES..........one of his favorite players in the NFL draft and just predicted many Pro Bowls ahead

chuckie's never seen a player he didn't love.

[Bretsky]

Yeah, that's another front seven mess of a pick by TT.

Another tweener that doesn't do anything particularly well.


There will be mudders in round two wist; this was a great pick. Watch him a bit more. Can't ignore his consistentent penetration and tackles for losses. Good Talent Here

[pbmax]

Yeah, that's another front seven mess of a pick by TT.

Another tweener that doesn't do anything particularly well.

His job is to be Worthy and Neal. I don't think the nickel 2-4 is going anywhere.

[denverYooper]

SC_DougFarrar
Datone Jones = Cullen Jenkins. That's a winner.

I thought Worthy was Jenkinslike too.

FWIW. Alfred Williams was pretty upset that the Packers grabbed him before the Donks could.

[red]

Relentless motor is what I read. That's what TT likes, kids who love football.

good for him

now he needs to start drafting players that fit our schemes

[pbmax]

chuckie's never seen a player he didn't love.

Actually I read he was ripping a few players this year, even tonight in the first round.

[Guiness]

I figured there was an outside chance it could be Lacy. No RBs off the board yet.

[pbmax]

jones-283
jenkins- 305

BIG difference

What was Jenkins size as a rook though?

[pbmax]

NFL_ATL
Sharrif Floyd dropped due to some character concerns and low college sack total, teams tell Mayock nfl.com/news/story/0ap…

[gbpackfan]

walterfootball.com grade

26. Datone Jones, DE/DT, UCLA: A- Grade
Datone Jones has been discussed as high as No. 19 to the Giants, so the Packers are getting good value with Datone Jones. They're also getting a tremendous upgrade on the defensive line. Green Bay was completely obliterated by Colin Kaepernick, so the team needed to find players to help them stop the read option. Jones is a great fit, as Ted Thompson continues to be one of the better drafters in the NFL.

[red]

What was Jenkins size as a rook though?

how the hell am i suppose to know that?

i don't know, he looked fat

[pbmax]

RAS!

Pelissero
Spielman was literally jus pulled out of presser. He is runnin back to draft room. Oh boy.

[Rastak]

A little surprised Hopkins goes this early......Texas.....
Strengths: Nice job catching the ball in stride and immediately creating after the catch with a very good sense of his surroundings, always appearing to have a plan. Deceiving body strength and powers through arm tackles, playing with toughness.
Strong hands with above average body control and focus to highpoint and attack the ball in the air. Tracks the deep ball and shows a second gear to separate at the final moment and finish. Very good short-area burst in his cuts with some beautiful stop-and-go moves and route acceleration to create room.

Good shoulder dip and footwork to set up his routes with very good feel, taking pride in his patterns. Handled quarterback Tajh Boyd's fastballs the past three years and uses his extension to reel-in tough grabs - high, low or outside, he goes and gets it. Uses his body well to box-out defenders and is fearless over the middle.

Changes gears well and knows how to turn on the jets, using his vision and awareness to create. Competitive and physical attitude and wants the ball more than anyone else on the field, never conceding the top receiver distinction to Watkins. Dedicated himself to the weight room this past off-season and it shows on the field. Much improved maturity took even the coaches by surprise with his goal oriented approach and work ethic. Super productive the past three seasons, leaving with school with numerous school and conference records.

Weaknesses: Lean torso with average height and frame with limited growth potential. Won't break a lot of tackles and has room to get stronger. Will have his share of focus drops, running before securing the grab at times.

Will attempt to corral the catch at times instead of using his palms. Lacks track speed and won't be able to leave NFL cornerbacks in his dust on foot speed alone. Showed steady progression each year, but still improving his consistency and is not yet a finished product.

Compares to: Reggie Wayne, WR, Indianapolis Colts - Like Wayne, Hopkins isn't the biggest or fastest, but he's able to manipulate his routes to create separation and is a reliable pass catcher with the body control, focus and competitive nature to finish. And like Wayne (30th pick in the 2001 NFL Draft), Hopkins will likely fall out of the top-25 picks and prove to be an excellent value in the late first or early second round.

[Rastak]

RAS!

Pelissero
Spielman was literally jus pulled out of presser. He is runnin back to draft room. Oh boy.


Cool, thanks for the heads up....

[gbpackfan]

Vikings trying to give away the farm in order to get Catfish

[George Cumby]

good for him

now he needs to start drafting players that fit our schemes

Players, not schemes, brah'.

[pbmax]

Schefter says, according to Wilde

And @AdamSchefter says the #Vikings are trying to trade back into the first round (for a third first-round pick) to take Manti Te'o.

[RashanGary]

We're going to be playing some base defense this year, that's a certainty. If we're going to go bigger up front (3 down lineman) it opens us up to play with 4 faster LB's. Nick Perry is going to take some time coming back.

Jones-Raji-Neal
Matthews-Bishop-Hawk-Jones

Then we work Worthy and Perry back into shape. . . . . . . I actually like the size and speed of this group. Would love to get a safety in the 2nd round, or RB. Move up even.

[rbaloha1]

Yes on his mock, but McGinn's report was all wrong. Packers apparently do not seem to think bigger is the answer. It was either hearsay or bad interpretation.

He will bulk up to 300 plus.

[RashanGary]

Your prototype 3-4 DE is 6'5" 290lbs. See JJ Watt or Richard Seymore coming out. This kid fits well at DE for us.

[pbmax]

smartfootball says he thinks Hopkins will contribute instantly

[Rastak]

Vikings trying to give away the farm in order to get Catfish


Would cost a bit to go all the way from mid/low 2nd.....

[pbmax]

Aaron Schatz
PLEASE BE TRUE. @TheBigLead Schefter said the Vikings are dangling 3 PICKS (!) to the Patriots to get into the 1st and get Teo. Seriously?

[wist43]

His job is to be Worthy and Neal. I don't think the nickel 2-4 is going anywhere.

It's now official... the 2-whatever is now our base Def.

This guy is CJ Wilson.

[gbgary]

I pay no attention to college ball so I've never heard of jones but his high lights showed someone who's very quick. I like that.

[Badgerinmaine]

Here's UCLA's media page on Jones. http://www.uclabruins.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/datone_jones_361267.html

[gbpackfan]

It's now official... the 2-whatever is now our base Def.

This guy is CJ Wilson.

Wilson doesn't have 6.5 sacks in his career, much less one year.

[The Shadow]

Disappointed, but I will gibe Ted the benefit of the doubt.

[red]

Schefter says, according to Wilde

And @AdamSchefter says the #Vikings are trying to trade back into the first round (for a third first-round pick) to take Manti Te'o.

i'm sure plenty of teams are willing to trade down

thats a big move up though

maybe for a first next year?