Official 2007 Live Draft Thread

[pittstang5]

I predicted packers would take this guy, but I thought It would be 3rd round.

Thought middle of the third as well

[motife]

http://images.nfl.com/images/draft/2007/mugs/jackson_brandon.jpg
Brandon Jackson
Height: 5-10
Weight: 210 Position: Running Back
College: Nebraska

Entering the 2006 season, the Cornhuskers were searching through a slew of candidates to replace Cory Ross as their starting I-back. After Jackson underwent surgical procedures on both shoulders during his last two offseasons, the coaching staff was just hoping he would log some playing time during the season.

Little did they realize last August that by the end of the season, Jackson would emerge as the breakaway threat the Huskers desperately sought. Brought along slowly in the first five games, gaining 154 yards in the process, Jackson took over the starting role against Iowa State and went on to amass 835 yards on the ground in his final nine contests.

At Horn Lake High School, Jackson was chosen as the Class 5A Offensive Player of the Year by the Mississippi Coaches Association two consecutive years and was an all-region and all-state selection. He was named to the Dandy Dozen by the Jackson Clarion-Ledger, signifying the top 12 players in the state of Mississippi. Jackson also received all-metro honors in the Memphis area his junior and senior years, and was Horn Lake's MVP as a senior. He played in the Mississippi-Alabama all-star game.

Jackson rushed for 1,200 yards and 11 touchdowns for Horn Lake in 2003, helping the team to a 6-6 record and a trip to the second round of the Class 5A playoffs (largest class). He also had 200 receiving yards and one touchdown reception. As a junior, he rushed for 1,783 yards and 28 touchdowns, and made 20 receptions for 200 yards and two touchdowns. His performance helped Horn Lake to a 10-3 record and an appearance in the second round of the state playoffs.

Jackson lettered four times in track, and had a career-best of 10.6 seconds in the 100 meters. He was sixth at state in the 100 as a senior, and helped the 4x200-meter relay team finish third at state in 2004, while aiding the 4x100 relay team's fourth-place state finish. He was also part of the 4x400-meter relay team that was second at the Class 5A state meet in 2003.

Jackson was the first Nebraska signee from Mississippi since current Philadelphia Eagle running back Correll Buckhalter in 1997, choosing the school over offers from Mississippi State and Memphis. He played in 10 games as a true freshman in 2004, ranking fifth in the Big 12 with 17 kickoff returns for 359 yards (21.1 average). He also finished second on the team with 85 carries for 390 yards (4.6 avg.) and six touchdowns.

April surgery on his shoulder did not improve his condition, and Jackson struggled with the injury throughout the 2005 season. Even though he played in nine games, he was limited to 52 yards on 18 rushing attempts (2.9 avg.). He added 63 yards on six kickoff returns (10.5 avg.) and also had a 5-yard reception.

Even though he saw limited action through the first five games of 2006, Jackson went on to earn All-Big 12 Conference first-team honors. He ranked fifth in the conference with an average of 70.64 yards per game rushing, as he led the team with 989 yards and eight touchdowns on 188 chances (5.3 avg). He showed excellent receiving skills, making 33 catches for 313 yards (9.5 avg) and a pair of scores. He also totaled 157 yards on nine kickoff returns (17.4 avg.).

In 33 games at Nebraska, Jackson started 11 contests. He carried 291 times for 1,431 yards (4.9 avg.) and 14 touchdowns. He gained 318 yards with a pair of scores on 34 receptions (9.4 avg.) and scored 96 points. He also returned 32 kickoffs for 579 yards (18.1 avg.), finishing with 2,328 all-purpose yards, an average of 70.55 yards per game.

ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a compact, well-defined frame with good chest development, thick thighs and calves and deceptive burst to get out on the perimeter … Cuts sharply and changes directions suddenly … Makes quick decisions on the move, showing the field vision to locate soft areas on the field … Consistent in finding the cut-back lanes and changes direction well, showing the quick feet to side-step trash and break into the second level … Picks up defensive coverage well and is able to see the small cracks and explode through the holes … Even when he doesn't have the luxury of open lanes, he is capable of sinking his pads, redirecting and bouncing wide … Better when working along the perimeter, as he needs room to shift, and displays the balance and body control, along with forward lean, to pick up valid yardage after the initial hit … Aggressive inside runner with the weaving ability to pick-and-slide through traffic, doing a nice job of maintaining balance running through the pile and will keep his feet on the move … When he bounces to the outside, he can generate that accelerated second gear to separate from defenders upfield … Releases off the snap and gets into his routes smoothly in passing situations, showing marked improvement fielding the ball outside the framewor … Falls forward with good body lean and shows a good slide step to make the initial tackler miss … Can get to the corner, cut and break free down the sideline, building to top speed nicely … Runs at the low pad level you look for in a back (doesn't have to gear down to shift) … Has enough valid speed to be split wide in passing situations and is quite effective on swing routes … Lacks pop in his hips, but will face up as a blocker … Showed better patience waiting for his line to create rush lanes in 2006 than he did in the past … Shows no hesitation attacking the crease once he locates it, and has the field intelligence to avoid running into spots … Could use more upper body power, but can deliver a good stiff arm and has the proper pad level to bounce off tackles … Won't explode into tacklers, but has the leg drive to move the pile … One of his better assets is his ability to plant, drive and redirect, showing ease of movement to get past the second level … Has good hip swerve, head fakes and spin moves to set up and elude single tacklers … Knows how to shield the ball from defenders when working in the short-area passing game and has become a proficient underneath receiver due to his natural hands and ability to locate the soft areas in the zone … Can also provide emergency duty as a kickoff returner.

Negatives: Size is a bit of a drawback, as he has short legs that make it tough for him to simply run over tacklers in tight quarters … While he has good acceleration, he is not really explosive (4.55-second 40-yard dash at the Combine), and along with his short legs he can be run down by defenders in his attempts to go the distance (needs to set up his moves rather than try to enter a foot race) … Has a penchant for carrying the ball exposed working his way up field, and while this has not been much of a problem, he needs to protect the ball better … Has a history of shoulder problems that warrant further medical evaluation … Stamina might be an issue, as he runs hard early in games but tapers off late … Good receiver out of the backfield, but has had several costly drops as he prefers to absorb the ball rather than reach and pluck for it at its high point (poor timing on his leaps).

Compares To: J.J. Arrington, Arizona Cardinals … With only one season of heavy rush load work, Jackson is still a work in progress, but he shows he is a decent underneath receiver with some value as a return specialist … He appears to be very capable of breaking a game open with his speed, but while he flashes brilliance, he also disappears for long stretches on the field, making him appear to be better as a change of pace back than a featured runner … With two shoulder surgeries in two years, his durability is another concern.

INJURY REPORT
2005: Underwent shoulder surgery after April camp.

2006: Underwent additional shoulder surgery (other shoulder/undisclosed) in fall camp.

AGILITY TESTS
Campus: 4.41 in the 40-yard dash … 36-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-1 broad jump.

Combine: 4.55 in the 40-yard dash … 1.56 10-yard dash … 2.62 20-yard dash … 4.14 20-yard shuttle … 11.47 60-yard shuttle … 7.0 three-cone drill … 37-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-2 broad jump … Bench pressed 225 pounds 21 times.

HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Horn Lake (Miss.) High School, playing football for head coach Larry Gann … Chosen as the Class 5A Offensive Player of the Year by the Mississippi Coaches Association two consecutive years and was an all-region and all-state selection … Named to the Dandy Dozen by the Jackson Clarion-Ledger, signifying the top 12 players in the state of Mississippi … Also received all-metro honors in the Memphis area his junior and senior years, and was Horn Lake's MVP as a senior … Played in the Mississippi-Alabama all-star game … Rushed for 1,200 yards and 11 touchdowns for Horn Lake in 2003, helping the team to a 6-6 record and a trip to the second round of the Class 5A playoffs (largest class) … Also had 200 receiving yards and one touchdown reception … As a junior, he rushed for 1,783 yards and 28 touchdowns, and made 20 receptions for 200 yards and two touchdowns … His performance helped Horn Lake to a 10-3 record and an appearance in the second round of the state playoffs … Lettered four times in track, and had a career-best of 10.6 seconds in the 100 meters … Sixth at state in the 100 as a senior, and helped the 4x200-meter relay squad finish third at state in 2004, while aiding the 4x100 relay team's fourth-place state finish … Also part of the 4x400-meter relay team that was second at the Class 5A state meet in 2003.

PERSONAL
Sociology major, earning 2004 Big 12 Commissioner's Academic Honor Roll recognition … Volunteer speaker for the 2005 Fall Break Tour of Excellence … Son of Barbara Jackson … Born Oct. 2, 1985, in Chicago, moving to Mississippi in 1996 … Resides in Horn Lake, Miss.

[BallHawk]

Ahman Green II ?

Let's hope.

[Tony Oday]

Well we got our RB. Maybe not the one we wanted but still looks like a ZBS back

[Lynx4Ben]

Nah, Green had wheels. He was a sprinter. This guy isn't very quick.

[RashanGary]

I'm a little nervous that he reached for need. I was nervous that he did that last year with Colledge too.

[BallHawk]

Once again, one of the smartest RBs in the draft. TT wants intelligent players.

[MadtownPacker]

I predicted packers would take this guy, but I thought It would be 3rd round.

Thought middle of the third as wellBut you likely had Quinn in the top10. :P

[Fosco33]

Wonder what Joe Thomas was fishing for?

I went out of Port Washington for Salmon - lots available there.

[ND72]

ESPN - Jackson is an instinctive, shifty and tough runner with the size-potential to emerge as a good starter in a zone-blocking scheme.

[Brainerd]

Picks up defensive coverage well and is able to see the small cracks and explode through the holes.

Has enough valid speed to be split wide in passing situations and is quite effective on swing routes.

Can also provide emergency duty as a kickoff returner.

Has a penchant for carrying the ball exposed working his way up field, and while this has not been much of a problem, he needs to protect the ball better.

[BallHawk]

I'm a little nervous that he reached for need. I was nervous that he did that last year with Colledge too.

That worked out in the end, though.

[RashanGary]

Makes quick decisions on the move, showing the field vision to locate soft areas on the field … Consistent in finding the cut-back lanes and changes direction well, showing the quick feet to side-step trash and break into the second level … Picks up defensive coverage well and is able to see the small cracks and explode through the holes … Even when he doesn't have the luxury of open lanes, he is capable of sinking his pads, redirecting and bouncing wide



Sounds like a Zone Back

[Fosco33]

Ahman Green II ?

Hopefully not in terms of injuries and fumbles. This guy had shoulder surgery twice already - durability?

[BallHawk]

Wonder if Tampa takes Bush or Pittman to go along with Cadillac,

[OS PA]

He's going to be a good one. You heard it here first. :oops:

[MadtownPacker]

Jackson's biggest weakness is his lack of experience. He will need to improve his bulk and strength in order to hold up as a premier back in the NFL, and he also lacks elite top-end speed. However, Jackson is an instinctive, shifty and tough runner with the size-potential to emerge as a good starter in a zone-blocking scheme. In our opinion, Jackson is one of the more underrated prospects in the 2007 class and he could become a steal from the second-or-third round range of the 2007 draft.
Sounds like a decent pick. Fresh legs and if he gets stronger who knows.

[BallHawk]

Ahman Green II ?

Hopefully not in terms of injuries and fumbles. This guy had shoulder surgery twice already - durability?

They weren't major injuries. The guy doesn't have a lot of mileage on him, which is a plus.

[pittstang5]

I predicted packers would take this guy, but I thought It would be 3rd round.

Thought middle of the third as wellBut you likely had Quinn in the top10. :P

Yeah......so..... :lol:

[Brainerd]

Ahman Green II ?

Hopefully not in terms of injuries and fumbles. This guy had shoulder surgery twice already - durability?

Yeah. Saw the shoulder operations two years in a row.

[motife]

Nah, Green had wheels. He was a sprinter. This guy isn't very quick.

4.41 isn't bad.. He could probably do in the high 4.3's if does 4.41.

I think they were referring to Ahman Green being from Nebraska too.

[packers11]

Not trying to be a hater... but...

wasn't bush "better"?

[Lurker64]

Jackson pick surprised me, but in retrospect he seems like a prototypical ZBS kind of guy. His burst and awareness are apparently high quality, so he's the kind of guy we need. I'm reasonably comfortable with Running Back by Committee splitting time with Morrency/Jackson/Pope. I'm not comfortable with any of those guys on their own, but the whole lot should be able to get some things done.

[BallHawk]

Gil Brandt of NFL.com thinks highly of Jackson....

"Jackson has a chance to be the real surprise of this draft, as far as running backs go. He reminds me of Frank Gore and Rudi Johnson. A three-year player at Nebraska who left a year early, he's a complete back. He's a real good receiver; you don't have to take him out in passing situations."

[Joemailman]

Not trying to be a hater... but...

wasn't bush "better"?

Jackson is a better fit for Packer offense than Bush.

[MadtownPacker]

So when is the next pick?

[Lurker64]

Not trying to be a hater... but...

wasn't bush "better"?

Possibly a better athlete, but likely not a better fit for our scheme. Plus, Bush's injury concerns are more significant.

[packers11]

THIRD ROUND IS TONIGHT?! I thought it was only first two rounds...


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[Rastak]

Bucs.....


Sabby Piscitelli
S | (6'2", 224, 4.47) | OREGON STATE

Scouts Grade: 70 Selected by: Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Round: 2
Pick (Overall): 32(64)


Strengths: Possesses excellent size and adequate upper body strength. Has good straight-line speed for his size. Reads keys quickly, is aggressive and flashes the ability to make plays in the backfield. Possesses good athletic ability for his size and flashes the ability to stay with tight ends in man coverage. Is tall, has good leaping ability and can compete for jump balls. Has great ball skills and consistently makes big plays in coverage. He's smart and does a good job of getting teammates lined up correctly.

Weaknesses: Fills quickly versus the run be he's not as physical or explosive as his great sized would indicate. Doesn't always use hands well and at times takes too long to shed blocks. Needs to improve his open-field tackling skills. Can be overaggressive, is vulnerable to play action and doesn't have the second gear to recover once caught out of position. Though he saw some time at corner at the collegiate level, his ability to change directions isn't elite and he will struggle to match up with slot receivers in the NFL.

Overall: Piscitelli appeared in all 13 games, mostly on special teams, in 2003 as a true freshman and made six total tackles, one interception, and one pass breakup. He started all 12 games at strong safety in 2004 and recorded 54 total tackles, three tackles for loss, five interceptions, eight pass breakups, one fumble recovery, and one forced fumble. In 2005, Piscitelli started all 11 games finishing the year with 53 total tackles, three tackles for loss, four interceptions (one returned for a 23-yard touchdown), eight pass breakups, and two fumble recoveries. He started all 14 games in 2006, earning first team All-Pac 10 honors after registering 75 total tackles, three tackles for loss, one sack, 11 pass breakups, and five interceptions.
Piscitelli displays impressive speed for such a big defensive back. He also is an instinctive and intelligent player. However, while he shows good athletic ability for his size, he's not fluid enough to cover the deep-middle of the field as a safety. Also, while some project him as an outside linebacker, he does not display the explosive power or toughness to make the transition in the NFL. In our opinion, Piscitelli has enough upside to warrant early second-day consideration but he's not worth drafting any earlier.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[AtlPackFan]

Gil Brandt of NFL.com thinks highly of Jackson....

"He's a real good receiver; you don't have to take him out in passing situations."

But can he block???

[ND72]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n7LqfRdnT0I


Brandon Jackson Highlight

[Bretsky]

I'm a little nervous that he reached for need. I was nervous that he did that last year with Colledge too.

TT's not stupid enough to think we can be effective with Morency and Herron.
I know the BPA thing is a wonderful way of explaining things but GM's also consider need as well and weigh that into the equation.

I liked Bush better but feel good about this pick.

[Lurker64]

So when is the next pick?

We pick at 78 and 68 is next, so that's probably going to be about 45-60 minutes from now.

[Fosco33]

So when is the next pick?

78 - less than an hour away if things hold true and teams max their times.

[Merlin]

This was a safe pick. The only question is who do the Packers let go? Morency is the favorite currently, Heron is valuable, Pope and Beach?

[Rastak]

Quentin Moses
DE | (6'5", 261, 4.82) | GEORGIA

Scouts Grade: 80

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position Selected by: Oakland Raiders
Round: 3
Pick (Overall): 1(65)


Strengths: An athletic defensive end/outside linebacker prospect with good height and size-potential. Has room on his frame to add 15-to-20 more pounds. Displays good initial burst and top-end speed. He is very fluid when changing directions on double-move as a pass rusher. He displays necessary closing burst as an edge rusher. At his best versus the run when in space. He works hard to keep off of blocks and he can be disruptive in the backfield. He displays good redirection skills and will make a lot of plays when pursuing from behind. His tackling skills are above average and he shows some power at the point of attack. He also displays fluid hips for his size and shows the potential to occasionally drop in coverage. He is an intelligent player that picks up on new schemes quickly.

Weaknesses: Production tailed off dramatically as a senior. Questions have risen regarding his competitiveness and passion for the game. Is lean and must continue to add bulk to his frame. He plays with a narrow base and does not show the lower body strength to anchor at the line of scrimmage versus the run. He will get pushed around too much by bigger offensive tackles when he lets them get into his body. He needs to improve his technique versus the run, as well. His hand-usage and footwork versus the run are below average. He lacks explosive power as a bull rusher. He also needs to improve his array of pass-rush moves, as he tends to struggle once reached.

Overall: Moses was redshirted in 2002. He played in all 14 games as a backup defensive end during the 2003 season, finishing with 37 total tackles, 4.5 tackles for loss and 2.5 sacks. In 2004, Moses played in 11 games (one start; Outback Bowl vs. Wisconsin) and registered 23 total tackles, 7.5 tackles for loss, 6.5 sacks, and one forced fumble. Moses took over as a fulltime starting defensive end in 2005 (13 games), finishing with 44 total tackles, 20.5 tackles for loss, 11.5 sacks, 38 quarterback pressures, one forced fumble, and two fumble recoveries. In 2006 Moses started all 13 games and made 33 tackles, 12 tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks, 27 quarterback hurries, and recovered one fumble.
Moses played basketball for the Bulldogs early in his collegiate career but has since turned his full focus to football. He made huge strides as a first-year fulltime starter in 2005 but he took a step backwards as a senior in 2006. Lean and athletic, Moses' best fit in the NFL may be as a rush-linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. He possesses impressive natural athleticism and he has enough room on his frame to add 15-20 pounds of bulk. Unfortunately, Moses stock has been on the steady decline since the end of his junior year. He didn't respond well to double-team attention as a senior, he failed to impress at the Senior Bowl and he showed up overweight at the combine and ran poorly. Once considered a high first-round prospect, Moses' draft stock has slipped all the way to the second-or-third round range.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[Brainerd]

Gil Brandt of NFL.com thinks highly of Jackson....

"He's a real good receiver; you don't have to take him out in passing situations."

But can he block???

Lacks pop in his hips, but will face up as a blocker.

[BallHawk]

THIRD ROUND IS TONIGHT?! I thought it was only first two rounds...


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Picks in 3rd round are 5 minutes.

The draft will probably end around midnight.

[MadtownPacker]

"He's a real good receiver; you don't have to take him out in passing situations."[/b]
Nice!! I am cool with this pick (not like I know any better). We got the ZBS RB we expected so STFU, drink a beer or smoke whatever you smoke and enjoy!!

[RashanGary]

I really worry about these needs picks. I wonder if they really were the best. I'm curious to hear what Thompsons says. I want to hear "This was the best guy on our board" but somehow I don't think I'll hear that.

[Joemailman]

THIRD ROUND IS TONIGHT?! I thought it was only first two rounds...


:?: :?: :?:

We're just getting started! :D


Sporting News take on Brandon Jackson:

Brandon Jackson
RB, Nebraska

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a big, athletic runner with the footwork and agility to make quick cuts to get through backside holes. Is a strong runner with good balance to absorb hard hits and keep on going. Runs through arm tackles. When keeping pads low, can deliver a violent blow to would-be tacklers. Shows good hands as a receiver, adjusting nicely to off-target passes. Is an instinctive runner who sees the field well and shows the patience to wait for blocks and then make quick cuts. Is adept at bouncing runs outside when the middle is clogged.

Weaknesses: Is an upright runner who is not always aggressive when attacking the line. Must improve ball security in traffic. In pass protection, lacks good technique and aggressiveness and thus gets jolted and driven backward way too easily. Lacks the explosiveness and speed to score long touchdowns.

Bottom line: Jackson came out as a junior to avoid being stuck in a backfield rotation at Nebraska, which wasn't worth the injury risk. With good quickness and athleticism for his big body, he has the skills to start in the NFL and can become a punishing runner if he lowers his shoulders more frequently.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I like the pick. Maybe we can go defense again in round 3.

[Lynx4Ben]

You heard it here first. Our first third pick for R Moss C Anderson.

[Brainerd]

Jackson is a Sociology major, earning 2004 Big 12 Commissioner's Academic Honor Roll recognition.

[Bretsky]

I'd have been pretty surprised if Brady Quinn was not the BPA pick 16

[motife]

http://www.phog.tv/images/nebraskaweb/nebraska4.jpg


http://media.newsnetnebraska.org/vimages/shared/vnews/stories/45153919cf9e2-24-1.jpg

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2006-10/25789317.jpg

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2006-12/26704691.jpg

http://media.newsnetnebraska.org/vimages/shared/vnews/stories/4531a2c13e6f0-36-2.jpg

http://media.buffzone.com/buff/content/img/photos/2006/11/24/1025buff9_t600.JPG

[Merlin]

THIRD ROUND IS TONIGHT?! I thought it was only first two rounds...


:?: :?: :?:

We're just getting started! :D


Sporting News take on Brandon Jackson:

Brandon Jackson
RB, Nebraska

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a big, athletic runner with the footwork and agility to make quick cuts to get through backside holes. Is a strong runner with good balance to absorb hard hits and keep on going. Runs through arm tackles. When keeping pads low, can deliver a violent blow to would-be tacklers. Shows good hands as a receiver, adjusting nicely to off-target passes. Is an instinctive runner who sees the field well and shows the patience to wait for blocks and then make quick cuts. Is adept at bouncing runs outside when the middle is clogged.

Weaknesses: Is an upright runner who is not always aggressive when attacking the line. Must improve ball security in traffic. In pass protection, lacks good technique and aggressiveness and thus gets jolted and driven backward way too easily. Lacks the explosiveness and speed to score long touchdowns.

Bottom line: Jackson came out as a junior to avoid being stuck in a backfield rotation at Nebraska, which wasn't worth the injury risk. With good quickness and athleticism for his big body, he has the skills to start in the NFL and can become a punishing runner if he lowers his shoulders more frequently.

Sounds like a fumbler but it can be corrected. I assume he carries the bal in "both" arms unlike Green :).

[MadtownPacker]

Thanks Lurker and Fos!!

Not a bad start. Getting a TE and safety in the next round would top the day off nicely.

[GoPackGo]

lets go pittman in round 3

[Joemailman]

I predicted packers would take this guy, but I thought It would be 3rd round.

Thought middle of the third as wellBut you likely had Quinn in the top10. :P

Shut up Burrito Boy. 3rd. :oops:

[Merlin]

You heard it here first. Our first third pick for R Moss C Anderson.

I can see our first 3rd rounder for Moss, however I don't think the Raiders will bite on that alone. Who is C Anderson?

[AtlPackFan]

THIRD ROUND IS TONIGHT?! I thought it was only first two rounds...


:?: :?: :?:

We're just getting started! :D


Sporting News take on Brandon Jackson:

Brandon Jackson
RB, Nebraska

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a big, athletic runner with the footwork and agility to make quick cuts to get through backside holes. Is a strong runner with good balance to absorb hard hits and keep on going. Runs through arm tackles. When keeping pads low, can deliver a violent blow to would-be tacklers. Shows good hands as a receiver, adjusting nicely to off-target passes. Is an instinctive runner who sees the field well and shows the patience to wait for blocks and then make quick cuts. Is adept at bouncing runs outside when the middle is clogged.

Weaknesses: Is an upright runner who is not always aggressive when attacking the line. Must improve ball security in traffic. In pass protection, lacks good technique and aggressiveness and thus gets jolted and driven backward way too easily. Lacks the explosiveness and speed to score long touchdowns.

Bottom line: Jackson came out as a junior to avoid being stuck in a backfield rotation at Nebraska, which wasn't worth the injury risk. With good quickness and athleticism for his big body, he has the skills to start in the NFL and can become a punishing runner if he lowers his shoulders more frequently.


Probably a little reluctant to lower his shoulders given his past injury history. :P

[packers11]

ahhhh we get to know in 30 minutes if Randy Moss will be a packer...

This is more exciting than the #1 pick :lol:

[MadtownPacker]

You heard it here first. Our first third pick for R Moss C Anderson.I love that deal!!!

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

lets go pittman in round 3

Was thinking the same thing. :)

[Lynx4Ben]

Courtney Anderson is the Raiders tight end. I am pretty sure he is still there. They also drafted Miller.

[pittstang5]

Ok....who like Ben Patrick with one of the thirds

[BallHawk]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n7LqfRdnT0I


Brandon Jackson Highlight

I like what I see. Of course, it's meant to make him look good, but he runs with more power than I would think a 5'9 guy would.

[Tony Oday]

I would love to see Moss as a Packer in this round then draft a saftey. Follow that up manana with CB, OG, QB, CB, QB, RB and TE.

[Brainerd]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2006-12/26704691.jpg


Kinda explains the shoulder problems.

[Lurker64]

I really worry about these needs picks. I wonder if they really were the best. I'm curious to hear what Thompsons says. I want to hear "This was the best guy on our board" but somehow I don't think I'll hear that.

"Best" is certainly graded out in terms of "best fit for us." I mean, a 360 lb guard prospect might be highly touted by the vast majority of NFL teams, but if you're scheme requires your linemen to be agile you're likely to undervalue that guy relative to everyone else. Likewise, we likely have Olsen graded lower than a lot of folks because our offensive scheme requires our tight ends to block periodically.

So Jackson might well have been graded out ahead of everyone else because he seems to exhibit the three most important properties of a zone rusher: Burst, Awareness, and Recognition. Other backs drafted ahead of him might well beat him in other areas (like straight line speed, or big play ability), but teams value different characteristics differently.

I think he's a good fit and reasonable value for the pick. He doesn't have the hype that Bush had, but then again most of the other teams in the NFL passed on Bush in the second, so maybe the GMs of the league know something that the draftniks don't.

[Rastak]

To Dallas:


James Marten
OT | (6'7", 309, 5.08) | BOSTON COLLEGE

Scouts Grade: 79
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Strengths: Plays with a mean streak, works to the whistle and flashes the ability to sustain blocks. Gets adequate hand placement, has decent upper body strength and can lock onto defender's frame. Plays with a wide base and shows good balance as a run blocker. Takes sound angles to blocks, shows good range for size and can get into position at the second level. Has long arms, moves feet well and can ride defenders past the pocket. Possesses good lateral mobility, can change directions quickly and flashes the ability to counter double moves. Shows good awareness, keeps head on a swivel and can adjust to line stunts as well as blitzes. Possesses good size and has the frame to comfortably get bigger. Has experience lining up at guard and is somewhat versatile.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal explosiveness and has some problems beating defenders to the point of attack. Doesn't deliver a violent initial punch, doesn't roll hips into blocks and isn't going to knock many defenders back. While flashes good lower body strength doesn't play with great leverage and isn't a great drive-blocker at this point. Takes too long to get into pass set and is going to have problems preventing explosive edge rushers from turning the corner. Though flashes ability to anchor against bull rushers doesn't get great knee bend in pass set and can get pushed back into the pocket.

Overall: Marten arrived at Boston College in 2002 and was redshirted. As a redshirt freshman in 2003, he appeared in all 13 games while backing up Jeremy Trueblood, and started the Diamond Walnut San Francisco Bowl at right tackle. Marten became a fulltime starter in 2004 at left guard for all 12 games that season. In 2005, he once again started all 12 contests at left guard. Marten then moved to left tackle for the 2006 season, where he started all 13 games, earning second-team All-ACC honors.
Marten doesn't dominate the point of attack and one-gap defenders will give him some problems. On the positive side, Marten has enough physical tools to develop into a starter, including an excellent frame and above-average athletic ability for his height. That's why we believe Marten is underrated and warrants consideration on Day 1.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[ND72]

I'm saying it again....I LOVE the Brandon Jackson pick.

[MadtownPacker]

You heard it here first. Our first third pick for R Moss C Anderson.

I can see our first 3rd rounder for Moss, however I don't think the Raiders will bite on that alone. Who is C Anderson?Courtney Anderson a decent field stretching TE.

[Merlin]

I thought maybe we would offer the lower 2nd for Moss straight up but knowing we picked up a 3rd rounder you would think that would be the offer. I know the Patriots offered a 4th and Oakland said no, also the rumors are that the Raiders are only talking to the Packers. Could it be that TT is trying to build an offense for a change?

[GoPackGo]

lets go pittman in round 3

Was thinking the same thing. :)

the pack hasn't drafted a RB since 2002. Our cubboards are bare

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Jason Hill?

[Rastak]

To Tampa:


Quincy Black
OLB | (6'1", 240, 4.42) | NEW MEXICO

Scouts Grade: 72

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position Selected by: Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Round: 3
Pick (Overall): 4(68)


Strengths: Possesses good instincts, reads keys and rarely gets caught out of position. Possesses good initial quickness and flashes the ability to beat blockers to the point of attack. Plays with a good motor, takes good pursuit angles and always seems to be around the ball at the end of the play. Gets adequate depth and shows good range when dropping into zone coverage. Does an excellent job of reading the quarterback's eyes, possesses adequate ball skills and flashes the ability to make the big play in coverage. Shows good closing speed and takes the shortest path to the quarterback when asked to blitz. Has excellent leaping ability and times jumps well.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size and is vulnerable to wearing down when teams consistently run at him. Doesn't have great lower body strength and has problems anchoring against the run. Hasn't show great upper body strength, doesn't always use hands well and has some problems shedding blocks quickly. Has some problems changing directions quickly, footwork is inconsistent and lacks ideal man-to-man cover skills at this point. Doesn't show a variety of pass rush moves and lacks the power to run though blockers when asked to blitz.

Overall: Black originally attended Harper Community College (Chicago) in 2003 and registered 88 total tackles, 28.5 tackles for loss, and 16.5 sacks to help Harper win the JuCo National Championship. In 2004, he appeared in all 12 games as a backup linebacker and on special teams for the Lobos and made 18 total tackles and forced one fumble. Black started 10 of 11 games in 2005 finishing the year with 63 total tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, 19 quarterback hurries, and one interception (returned 31 yards for a touchdown). In 2006 he appeared in all 11 games, with 10 starts, and recorded 63 total tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, 1.5 sacks, and two interceptions, helping him earn first team All-MWC accolades.
Black is a high-motor player that rarely makes mistakes. He possesses good range versus the run and he has developed into a playmaker as a pass rusher. However, he is undersized and will have problems taking on blockers versus the run in the NFL. He also needs to polish his cover skills. In our opinion, Black is a developmental project with enough upside to warrant early-Day 2 consideration in the 2007 draft class.



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[BallHawk]

Mort is saying that Jackson came out early to support his family for financial reasons....comes from a tough backround....overcame adversity to get where he is....Work-a-holic.

I LOVE THIS PICK.

[Brainerd]

I'm saying it again....I LOVE the Brandon Jackson pick.

Me too. Alot. But, I'm always optimistic this time of year.

[Merlin]

You heard it here first. Our first third pick for R Moss C Anderson.

I can see our first 3rd rounder for Moss, however I don't think the Raiders will bite on that alone. Who is C Anderson?Courtney Anderson a decent field stretching TE.

Ah, well we could use one of those now couldn't we! If we traded for Moss, that would put TT back on my shit list instead of in the trash. We don't need to draft a safety since we have players that are battling for that position already. I say trade Manual for a 27th round pick and a bag of peanuts.

[Willard]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=n7LqfRdnT0I


Brandon Jackson Highlight

I like what I see. Of course, it's meant to make him look good, but he runs with more power than I would think a 5'9 guy would.

Nice vision too. He has a great first cut. Good for ZBS. I likey.

[BallHawk]

Kiper has liked both of TT's picks so far.

Is TT using Mel's draft magazine as his scouting reports? :shock: :shock:

[motife]

http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics30/400/VS/VSBASGNWZKFSRGS.20061228224313.jpg

[MadtownPacker]

If TT can pimp one of those #3s into Moss he will have still gotten his ZBS RB and still have a 3rd.

What will his detractors say then? (Merlin? Woody?) :twisted:

[BallHawk]

Another Golden Domer goes off the board.

[Partial]

Who'd we get? Damn, I got a lot of catching up to do.

[falco]

ND72 I hadn't seen much on Jackson. I take it you are high on him? Think he can be a starting back? Where would you have ranked him amongst the prospects this year?

[RashanGary]

He looks great in his youtube video. He fits the zone perfectly. I'm warming up to this. Sometimes the best player fits a need. Hopefully that is the case here.

[motife]

Big 12 Championship game :

http://www.huskers.com//pics6/520/IL/ILKLYNGRCFXKYZX.20061203054714.JPG

[Merlin]

I still think the Harrell pick was a wasted opportunity. I don't care what you guys say, you will never convince me that a player that is injured and basically didn't play last year is worthy of anything higher then a 3rd round pick. He also has an injury history. We should have either taken Quinn and soaked the Cleveland or traded out of the first round.

[Partial]

Is the draft still going?

[Lurker64]

Thus far, looks like we're 2/2 for "Packer People", whatever that means. Perhaps TT's trying to build a karma cushion for Moss.

[Rastak]

Arizona:


Buster Davis
ILB | (5'9", 239, 4.64) | FLORIDA STATE

Scouts Grade: 72

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position Selected by: Arizona Cardinals
Round: 3
Pick (Overall): 5(69)


Strengths: An experienced and productive starter at the highest collegiate level. Has shown versatility by playing inside and outside linebacker while at FSU. He shows very good natural instincts and reads his keys quickly. He's quicker than fast. Shows good lateral mobility and is able to make plays from sideline-to-sideline versus the run. Takes solid angles and is relentless in pursuit. He is a vicious hitter with very good short-area power. Much more effective when coming forward than he is when turning and running. Has developed a good feel for finding creases as a blitzer and he is a productive pass rusher.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal "NFL measurables". Is short and has maxed out his frame. Lacks ideal top-end speed. Will have trouble matching up in the phone booth as a run-plugger in the NFL. He will have limitations in coverage due to lack of ideal size and speed. Displays below average ball skills and is not much of a playmaker in coverage.

Overall: Davis sat out the 2002 season as a redshirt before playing sparingly in seven contests during the 2003 season making five total tackles and one tackle for loss. In 2004, he played in all 12 games (11 starts) and finished the season with 60 total tackles, eight tackles for loss, one sack, and one fumble recovery. Davis returned as the starter for all 13 games in 2005 recording 91 total tackles, 10.5 tackles for loss, two sacks, and one fumble recovery. He started all 13 games in 2006 and earned first team All-American (coaches) and first team All-ACC honors after registering 109 tackles, eight tackles for loss, five sacks, one interception, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery, and one safety.
Davis is an experienced, steady, versatile linebacker with enough quickness, bulk, aggressiveness and power to emerge as a solid starter if protected by the right scheme in the NFL. His below average size and straight-line speed will inevitably affect his draft stock but Davis plays the game much more effectively than his "measurables" indicate -- much like London Fletcher (Bills). Davis is one of the top-five inside linebacker prospects in the 2007 class and his value is in the late first-day range.



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[packers11]

Thus far, looks like we're 2/2 for "Packer People", whatever that means. Perhaps TT's trying to build a karma cushion for Moss.

haha a big cushion :)

[Merlin]

If TT can pimp one of those #3s into Moss he will have still gotten his ZBS RB and still have a 3rd.

What will his detractors say then? (Merlin? Woody?) :twisted:

Like I said, he would move back onto my shit list. Currently he is filed under "trash".

[RashanGary]

Damn, he's got good size, speed, vision and makes people miss. What more do you need?

I'm warmed up :)

[Rastak]

Big 12 Championship game :

http://www.huskers.com//pics6/520/IL/ILKLYNGRCFXKYZX.20061203054714.JPG


Where's Adrian Peterson?


:P

[MadtownPacker]

http://www.nmnathletics.com.edgesuite.net/pics30/400/VS/VSBASGNWZKFSRGS.20061228224313.jpg
Looks like a tough dude. Im feeling this one.

How about this, a trade 3rd for Moss AND draft Fresno St WR Paul Williams in the 3rd? The Offense would be SIIIIICCCCCCKKKKKKK!!!

[SD GB fan]

holy crap thats a short ILB. maybe he can see the QB and RB under the lineman?

[RashanGary]

on 107.5 gamenight they just said taht Singletary or some coach I missed the name because I'm multitasking said Willis reminded him of Ray Lewis.

In your face Partial :D

[BallHawk]

Lorenzo Booker to Miami.

[Lurker64]

Is the draft still going?

Yes. We traded down in the 2nd with the Jets getting their 2nd, 3rd, and 5th for our 2nd and 7th. We picked Brandon Jackson RB out of Neb., who seems to be an ideal fit for the ZBS. We have two picks in the 3rd, one in the middle one late.

[mngolf19]

You guys are funny. An hour from now he will be better than Barry Sanders.

[Merlin]

How tall is Williams? We are already stocked with DD type receivers.

[Rastak]

Broncos:


Ryan Harris
OT | (6'4", 305, 5.09) | NOTRE DAME

Scouts Grade: 73

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position Selected by: Denver Broncos
Round: 3
Pick (Overall): 6(70)


Strengths: An experienced, battle-tested offensive lineman. Has developed into an extremely efficient offensive tackle at the highest collegiate level. Shows very good initial quickness and does a fine job with his first step and blocking angles. Technically sound lineman with good footwork and hand-placement. Rarely is out of position and does a good job of using leverage and angles to complete assignments as a run blocker. Possesses adequate upper body power. Does a good job of cutting defenders when asked to and he also does a fine job of hitting the moving target in space. He is asked to pull more often than most OT's, and he shows very good quickness and mobility in that regard. He has long arms and big hands. Shows a quick set in pass pro. Is agile enough to mirror-and-slide with more athletic pass rushers. Rarely gets beat around the corner by pure speed.

Weaknesses: Lacks ideal size and dipped down under 280 pounds during his senior season. Possesses adequate but not good height for a left tackle prospect, and he must increase his bulk and prove he can maintain it moving forward. He lacks a wide base and does not show the consistent ability to anchor versus more powerful bull rushers. He doesn't play with a mean streak and he seems to be too much of a "finesse" blocker. He comes up short in terms of his ability to uproot defenders and drive them off the line of scrimmage as a run blocker. He also will leave his feet occasionally when he doesn't need to.

Overall: Harris received eight starts at right tackle during his true freshman season in 2003 and also saw extensive action on special teams. In 2004, he started at left tackle for all 12 of Notre Dame's contests but still contributed on special teams. Harris once again started every game (12) for the Fighting Irish in 2005 at left tackle giving him 31 consecutive starts leading up to his senior season in 2006. He started all 13 games at left tackle in 2006, giving him 44 consecutive starts to end his career.
Harris has great experience at the highest level as a three and a half year starter. He also is a fine athlete for the position. However, Harris lacks ideal size and strength. Even more concerning to us is that he seems to lack a certain degree of toughness that it takes to succeed as a starting offensive tackle in the NFL. As such, we think Harris is a bit of an overrated prospect and would not recommend selecting him before the third round.



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[Partial]

Who is having the best draft so far? The worst? I am not at all surprised by our 1st round pick. He will likely be a pretty good player. But that spells the end of Corey Williams.

Who was the second round pick? Is Moss a Packer yet?

[Rastak]

Miami:

Lorenzo Booker
RB | (5'10", 191, 4.46) | FLORIDA STATE

Scouts Grade: 79

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position(D: DURABILITY) Player that can't stay healthy Selected by: Miami Dolphins
Round: 3
Pick (Overall): 7(71)


Strengths: A versatile running back prospect with homerun potential as a runner, receiver and return specialist. He shows outstanding initial burst and overall quickness. Explodes through the line of scrimmage and will quickly bounce inside runs to the outside. He displays the speed to consistently turn the corner as an outside runner. His vision as a runner is above average. He is extremely elusive and will consistently make defenders miss in space. He has great experience as a receiver. Shows good instincts and route running skills. Does a very good job of separating from coverage, as well as coming back to his quarterback when necessary. He displays soft hands and the ability to adjust to the poorly thrown ball. Can pluck on the run and is extremely dangerous when he catches the ball on the move in space. Is aggressive and technically sound as a pass blocker.

Weaknesses: Is undersized. Lacks ideal height and possesses marginal bulk. Is taken down too easily and fails to consistently generate yards after initial contact. Below average inside runner; will not push the pile. Has never carried a full load and does not project as a fulltime starter in the NFL. Will get overwhelmed at the point of attack as a blocker and will struggle to consistently match up in that facet of the game at the next level. Durability is a long-term concern due to marginal size and past injuries (ankle, knee) that kept him out of games in 2003. He also was limited by a deep thigh bruised suffered vs. Boston College (10/21) as a senior in 2006.

Overall: Booker was redshirted in 2002. As a redshirt freshman in 2003, Booker played in 10 of FSU's 13 games and missed three games with a sprained knee ligament and sprained ankle. He finished the year with 62 carries for 334 yards (5.4 average), three touchdowns and caught 19 passes for 86 yards. Booker appeared in all 12 games and made two starts in 2004 amassing 887 yards rushing on 173 carries (5.1 average) and four touchdowns. He added 24 catches for 160 yards in the passing game including at least one catch in each regular season contest. Booker played in all 13 games and made three starts in 2005 leading FSU in rushing attempts (119), yards (552), and rushing touchdowns (four) while averaging 4.6 yards per carry. He also caught 38 passes for 329 yards and two touchdowns. He again appeared in all 13 games in 2006, with 12 starts and finished with 143 carries for 616 yards (4.3 average) and four touchdowns and also added 33 receptions for 420 yards.
Booker has never proven capable of being the premier back in college and he clearly lacks the size and strength to handle a full load at the next level. However, Booker's versatility remains his greatest asset. He possesses the speed, elusiveness and hands to contribute as a third-down back and return specialist in the NFL, which is why he could still come off the board late on Day 1 despite failing to live up to expectations at Florida State.

[RashanGary]

Who is having the best draft so far? The worst? I am not at all surprised by our 1st round pick. He will likely be a pretty good player. But that spells the end of Corey Williams.

Who was the second round pick? Is Moss a Packer yet?

Hey, one of the 49ers coaches said Willis reminded him of Ray Lewis..

:P

[mngolf19]

Who is having the best draft so far? The worst? I am not at all surprised by our 1st round pick. He will likely be a pretty good player. But that spells the end of Corey Williams.

Who was the second round pick? Is Moss a Packer yet?

Moss still a Raider. And oddly Detroit is having a good draft.

[Merlin]

Cleveland got Thomas and Quinn, as far as I am concerned, they bolstered their offense a ton in this draft.

[Lynx4Ben]

You really can't fault the Browns draft so far. Two top 10 rated talents!

[MadtownPacker]

Big 12 Championship game :

http://www.huskers.com//pics6/520/IL/ILKLYNGRCFXKYZX.20061203054714.JPG


Where's Adrian Peterson?


:PHahaha, Im happy so Im gonna leave this question alone. 8-)

[motife]

Brandon Jackson only started 9 games this year. His stats are pretty interesting for a Nebraska RB.


188 carries 989 yards, 5.3avg, 8 TDs, 48 long

33 receptions 313 yards, 9.5avg, 2 TD's, 49 long

He doesn't sound like a pussy either.

[Lurker64]

Cleveland got Thomas and Quinn, as far as I am concerned, they bolstered their offense a ton in this draft.

Yes, but they sold their farm and the farms of several neighbors to do it.

[Rastak]

Vikes on the clock...Pack has 2 picks this round.....

[MadtownPacker]

How tall is Williams? We are already stocked with DD type receivers.He is like 6'3 and is a deep threat.

[LL2]

Cleveland got Thomas and Quinn, as far as I am concerned, they bolstered their offense a ton in this draft.

I agree, but obly time will tell if they got the next Bernie Kosar or Tom Brady.

[mngolf19]

I'll take McCauley with this pick.

[packers11]

After going defense , Favre went down to visit T.T. and you know if the packers trade for Moss... Favre has a gun to T.T's head at that moment :wink: ...

[Merlin]

The one thing I like about the guy is that he wasn't the star and he performed. If the Packers go running back by committee as they should, he will fit right in. And whoever said we are talking ourselves into the next Barry Sanders can lick me where I pee. We are looking at his potential, this isn't the Vikings where we crown ourselves Super Bowl champs every preseason.

[Partial]

on 107.5 gamenight they just said taht Singletary or some coach I missed the name because I'm multitasking said Willis reminded him of Ray Lewis.

In your face Partial :D

HEY FU BUDDY :P I got nothing. Fill me in, Collins.

[Rastak]

Vikings grab a CB......good move.....

Marcus McCauley
CB | (6'0", 203, 4.39) | FRESNO STATE

Scouts Grade: 87 Selected by: Minnesota Vikings
Round: 3
Pick (Overall): 8(72)


Strengths: Possesses an outstanding combination of size and speed. He is tall with adequate bulk. Aggressive cornerback that is capable of taking bigger wide receivers out of their routes with press coverage. He has outstanding burst and shows the ability to make up a lot of ground when the ball is in the air. He displays excellent balance and body control. Hips are fluid, especially for a taller cornerback. Does a good job of reading receivers' body language and of getting his arms up at the last second when covering downfield. He shows some willingness when filling versus the run.

Weaknesses: Still has room to improve his footwork. Will get turned around too easily by savvy route runner at times. Will bite occasionally on the play-action and must show more discipline. He lacks ideal ball skills and will drop some passes that should be intercepted. He gambles too much and will occasionally get caught taking false steps. He doesn't always get his head around quickly enough in coverage. Seems to take too long finding the ball over his shoulder. Lacks ideal ball skills. Can be inconsistent as a tackler in space and must learn to take better pursuit angles when chasing across the field. He is aggressive in coverage but he does not show the same aggressiveness when filling versus bigger ball carriers in run support.

Overall: McCauley sat out the 2002 season as a redshirt. In 2003, he appeared in all 14 games (one start) recording 11 total tackles, 0.5 tackle for loss, and two blocked kicks. McCauley played in all 12 games (10 starts) in 2004 and finished the season with 31 total tackles, three tackles for loss, one sack, three interceptions (one returned for a touchdown), and eight pass breakups. He started all 13 contests in 2005 registering 45 total tackles, two tackles for loss, one interception, seven pass breakups, and two forced fumbles. In 2006, McCauley started all 12 games, recording 56 total tackles, three tackles for loss, seven pass breakups, and two forced fumbles.
McCauley still has much room to grow in terms of his footwork, recognition and tackling skills. He outplayed Richard Marshall (Panthers' second-round pick last year) during the 2005 season but McCauley regressed as a senior in 2006. He got beat deep entirely too much and he seemed to mail it in emotionally down the stretch, especially after suffering a concussion versus Oregon State. With all that said, McCauley still possesses the physical tools of a premier NFL cover corner, including an exceptional combination of size, athletic ability and speed. McCauley should slip to the the second round, in which case he's worth the gamble as a risk-reward prospect with loads of upside.



* Player biographies are provided by Scouts Inc.

[Merlin]

How tall is Williams? We are already stocked with DD type receivers.He is like 6'3.

Hrm, not sold at that height I guess. 6'5" maybe.

[Partial]

Cleveland got Thomas and Quinn, as far as I am concerned, they bolstered their offense a ton in this draft.

Yeah I heard that! How the hell did Quinn fall to 20+. Nutzo!

[Merlin]

Cleveland got Thomas and Quinn, as far as I am concerned, they bolstered their offense a ton in this draft.

Yes, but they sold their farm and the farms of several neighbors to do it.

Maybe but they also signed a good OL this off season to along with Lewis who has a few years left in him.

[mngolf19]

The one thing I like about the guy is that he wasn't the star and he performed. If the Packers go running back by committee as they should, he will fit right in. And whoever said we are talking ourselves into the next Barry Sanders can lick me where I pee. We are looking at his potential, this isn't the Vikings where we crown ourselves Super Bowl champs every preseason.

Don't think I've ever done that. Former or latter.

[OS PA]

Vikings got a little bit of a steal there. McCauley had end of the 1st to 2nd round value.

[Tony Oday]

I think the Vikes are having a nice little draft...

[RashanGary]

McCarthy and Thompson can't sob enough about how great Harrell is. The RB looks liek a perfect fit for the zone. TT got booed at Lambeau podium...


Vikes got Peterson...Lions got Johnosn..

Those are the highlights.

[MadtownPacker]

I'll take McCauley with this pick.I think he is filming Home Alone 4.

[RashanGary]

Sorry Ras but I think McCauley is junk.

[OS PA]

We're a little over 20 minutes away from our next pick!

[motife]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZHiYIWCTb0&mode=related&search=

another Brandon Jackson video.

"you can forget about running back rotation in Lincoln. Number 32 has just taken charge..."

[Partial]

I think the Delaware tight end is our next pick.

[BallHawk]

Vikings got a little bit of a steal there. McCauley had end of the 1st to 2nd round value.

He's not a football player, though. He's a guy that plays football.

[MadtownPacker]

on 107.5 gamenight they just said taht Singletary or some coach I missed the name because I'm multitasking said Willis reminded him of Ray Lewis.

In your face Partial :D

HEY FU BUDDY :P I got nothing. Fill me in, Collins.Just read this thread from page 1 and you will know everything.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[MateoInMex]

Is anybody still drinking, or am I the only one?

[BallHawk]

I think the Delaware tight end is our next pick.

I'd love Ben Patrick.

[RashanGary]

I'll guess Jason Hill but I have no friggin clue.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Paul Williams?

[Badgerinmaine]

You guys are funny. An hour from now he will be better than Barry Sanders.
Well, he already seems like he wants to play more than Barry does. :)
I'd also say we seem to have done well with Mississippi natives in the recent past...

[packers11]

Looks like Baltimore went for the first KR / Devin Hestner...

[Rastak]

Sorry Ras but I think McCauley is junk.


No problem...I thought Collins was junk but I was wrong....I'm hoping you are also wrong......

[Partial]

I just moved to a room with a TV. I am very taken aback by the draft so far. My mock looks TERRIBLE today. Just ordered a pizza, threw on some sweats and am ready for a long night. Are you guys going to be going past the draft tonight? I am here until everybody is gone.

[Tony Oday]

Is anybody still drinking, or am I the only one?

Im a shade over a 12 pack so far, I fell "asleep" about two hours ago :) hehe Im having a lot of fun today!

[Willard]

I think the Delaware tight end is our next pick.

I'd love Ben Patrick.

I want to see that Fighting Blue Hen in Green & Gold!

[MadtownPacker]

Vikings grab a CB......good move.....

Marcus McCauley
CB | (6'0", 203, 4.39) | FRESNO STATE
Damn, this is a great pick. Tough FBer like all of Pat Hill's players. hate to have to root against a Bulldog.

[Partial]

Vikings grab a CB......good move.....

Marcus McCauley
CB | (6'0", 203, 4.39) | FRESNO STATE
Damn, this is a great pick. Tough FBer like all of Pat Hill's players. hate to have to root against a Bulldog.

F'in Vikes are having a good draft. McCauley is a good player.

[Lurker64]

Maybe but they also signed a good OL this off season to along with Lewis who has a few years left in him.

Trading away next year's first is a hell of a gamble when you're as bad as Cleveland, playing in a tough division in a tough conference. If they would have ended up drafting in the top 5 or so next year, they made a horrible mistake. I'd rather have Darren McFadden next year than Brady Quinn this year.

[Joemailman]

Vikings got a little bit of a steal there. McCauley had end of the 1st to 2nd round value.

He's not a football player, though. He's a guy that plays football.

Had a bad senior year Will be interesting to see if he can rebound.

[MadtownPacker]

Sorry Ras but I think McCauley is junk.


No problem...I thought Collins was junk but I was wrong....I'm hoping you are also wrong......Bullshit, Collins doesnt know shit about Fresno St players. ON this one I can speak up and Im telling you he is good.

[Partial]

Maybe but they also signed a good OL this off season to along with Lewis who has a few years left in him.

Trading away next year's first is a hell of a gamble when you're as bad as Cleveland, playing in a tough division in a tough conference. If they would have ended up drafting in the top 5 or so next year, they made a horrible mistake. I'd rather have Darren McFadden next year than Brady Quinn this year.

Nope, QB versus running back. You take Quinn. Cannot believe it cost them a first, though. Did they give their first and second for that? That's a hefty price.

Did Turner get traded?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Charles Johnson?

[Tony Oday]

Maybe but they also signed a good OL this off season to along with Lewis who has a few years left in him.

Trading away next year's first is a hell of a gamble when you're as bad as Cleveland, playing in a tough division in a tough conference. If they would have ended up drafting in the top 5 or so next year, they made a horrible mistake. I'd rather have Darren McFadden next year than Brady Quinn this year.

F that if you are the browns. You have to keep people in the seats. Quinn is an Ohio native that loves the Browns and he also has Thomas to cover his back. This is a great draft for them.

[Partial]

Charles Johnson?

Maybe. I am thinking they go tight end. BH, is BP a good receiving tight end?

[Scott Campbell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZHiYIWCTb0&mode=related&search=

another Brandon Jackson video.

"you can forget about running back rotation in Lincoln. Number 32 has just taken charge..."


Nice run, but he had the rock in the wrong arm.

[Packnut]

I've seen the Nebraska Rb play 4 times. He's Morency #2. Steady but will never break the big one. Not a home run threat at all. Still, at this point with what was left, a solid pick.

[Rastak]

Sorry Ras but I think McCauley is junk.


No problem...I thought Collins was junk but I was wrong....I'm hoping you are also wrong......Bullshit, Collins doesnt know shit about Fresno St players. ON this one I can speak up and Im telling you he is good.


I'm glad to hear it Mad.........I bow humbly to your opinion......

[MadtownPacker]

Is anybody still drinking, or am I the only one?Im still fumando the verde. About to start up on the tequila.

[RashanGary]

I have big warning flags on CB's who can't cover. He might be tough but he's not going to stop passes according to the report.

[BallHawk]

Charles Johnson?

Maybe. I am thinking they go tight end. BH, is BP a good receiving tight end?

You bet. He isn't explosive, but he's more talented than at receiving Bubba, that's for sure. He's also a solid blocker.

[Bretsky]

Who is having the best draft so far? The worst? I am not at all surprised by our 1st round pick. He will likely be a pretty good player. But that spells the end of Corey Williams.

Who was the second round pick? Is Moss a Packer yet?


The Browns have Joe Thomas and Brady Quinn; a great start

[Spaulding]

Jason Hill just went - would have been nice in Green and Gold to stretch the field.

[Tony Oday]

Damn I hope we see a trade here!!! CMON TT I WANT TO SEE SOME MOSS ON THE FIELD!!!!

[Packnut]

Is anybody still drinking, or am I the only one?Im still fumando the verde. About to start up on the tequila.

I had my first tequila shot after that horrible pick. Now, I've had enough to believe it was a great pick! I've found the secret to suriviving a Thompson draft- STAY DRUNK! :lol:

[Lurker64]

F that if you are the browns. You have to keep people in the seats. Quinn is an Ohio native that loves the Browns and he also has Thomas to cover his back. This is a great draft for them.

Browns fans are kind of like Packer fans. They'll go to the games and cheer their hearts out no matter how bad the team is. I don't think they need to worry about that. If it was the Cardinals, or some team without a really dedicated fanbase I would agree with you.

I don't think it's a particularly good draft. When you're a bad team, trading next year's first is always very dangerous. I'm not saying it's a bad draft, I'm not saying it's a good draft. We won't know if it's a good draft until next year at this time.

They got a lot, yes. But they spent a lot to do it. If I was a Browns fan, I'd be very uneasy.

[Partial]

Charles Johnson?

Maybe. I am thinking they go tight end. BH, is BP a good receiving tight end?

You bet. He isn't explosive, but he's more talented than at receiving Bubba, that's for sure. He's also a solid blocker.

Well I would hope he's better than Bubba. Who is an NFL equivalent?

[BallHawk]

GB is on the clock.

[Joemailman]

Falcons took Laurent Robinson. Damn. Had Pack taking him in 4th. :evil:

[Tony Oday]

Is anybody still drinking, or am I the only one?Im still fumando the verde. About to start up on the tequila.

I had my first tequila shot after that horrible pick. Now, I've had enough to believe it was a great pick! I've found the secret to suriviving a Thompson draft- STAY DRUNK! :lol:

Mine is looking at your Avatar ;)

[chain_gang]

I'd be happy with a safety with the coming pick. But seems like a good draft so far.

[Packnut]

Is anybody still drinking, or am I the only one?Im still fumando the verde. About to start up on the tequila.

I had my first tequila shot after that horrible pick. Now, I've had enough to believe it was a great pick! I've found the secret to suriviving a Thompson draft- STAY DRUNK! :lol:

Mine is looking at your Avatar ;)


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Maybe we go Tanard Jackson.

[pittstang5]

Maybe we go Tanard Jackson.

Possible....very possible

[Partial]

I am rather underwhelmed with Brandon Jackson in the second. Wasn't he a fourth-fifth according to most scouts?

[Rastak]

Is anybody still drinking, or am I the only one?Im still fumando the verde. About to start up on the tequila.


Mex, you ain't the only one...and soon I'm gonna retire for that very reason......

[Partial]

Maybe we go Tanard Jackson.

Who?

[RashanGary]

All I know is Thompson is due for a big WTF!!!

It's been way to long without one.

[Lurker64]

Not having the clock up is making me very uneasy. I'm currently typing without looking at the computer, and hope that this is at least barely intelligible. I don't want to miss the pick.

[chain_gang]

I like Rouse out of VT, but he'd need some solid coaching, and KS isn't the guy that can provide that.

[BallHawk]

Charles Johnson?

Maybe. I am thinking they go tight end. BH, is BP a good receiving tight end?

You bet. He isn't explosive, but he's more talented than at receiving Bubba, that's for sure. He's also a solid blocker.

Well I would hope he's better than Bubba. Who is an NFL equivalent?

Antonio Gates.

[OS PA]

Who in the hell is that?

[Bretsky]

I am rather underwhelmed with Brandon Jackson in the second. Wasn't he a fourth-fifth according to most scouts?


From what I saw he was in the 2-3 range

[Lurker64]

I am rather underwhelmed with Brandon Jackson in the second. Wasn't he a fourth-fifth according to most scouts?

He's was also "potentially the steal of the draft" according to some scouts. The whole thing's a crapshoot.

Also, who did we take?

[MateoInMex]

"Im still fumando the verde. About to start up on the tequila."

MUH MAN MADTOWN!!!!

I pass on grass....5 years ago, yes....Then I would do another line off some drunk puta's a$$.

[RashanGary]

I am rather underwhelmed with Brandon Jackson in the second. Wasn't he a fourth-fifth according to most scouts?

Go back a couple pages. mot or someone had a youtube vid. He looked pretty good. He was dynamic in their zone. INjury concerns though; that is becoming a trend here.

[Tony Oday]

James Jones WR

[packers11]

NOO!!! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO SAY... RANDY MOSS WR

[motife]

http://images.nfl.com/images/draft/2007/mugs/jones_james.jpg
James Jones
Height: 6-1
Weight: 207
Position: Wide Receiver
College: San Jose State
OVERVIEW
The consummate team player, the coaching staff took full advantage of Jones' athletic ability and versatility in 2006. He not only went on to lead the team in receptions, but he also showed a strong throwing arm for the option pass, natural hands to handle punt-return duties and an ability to keep the defenses honest by getting good yardage on the reverse. He went on to score by catching, running and throwing the ball during his final year.

Jones was the 2001 league Most Valuable Player as a senior at Gunderson High School. He was a first-team All-Central Coast Section choice and played in the 2002 Santa Clara County North-South All-Star Game. In addition to football, he lettered in basketball and track, registering a personal best of 6-foot-8 in the high jump.

Deciding to stay local, Jones enrolled at San Jose State in 2002, spending the season on the scout team. He saw minimal action in nine games in 2003, but caught only one pass for 8 yards while recording three tackles. He started six of 11 contests as a sophomore, ranking second on the team with 25 receptions for 317 yards (12.7 average) and a touchdown. He added 80 yards on 11 punt returns (7.3 avg.) and recorded one solo tackle.

As a junior, Jones started just three games but he still finished second on the team with 30 catches for 278 yards (9.3 avg.) and one touchdown. He picked up 48 yards on eight carries (6.0 avg.) and 106 yards on 20 punt returns (5.3 avg.). He also totaled five tackles (four solos) on special teams.

The second-team All-Western Athletic Conference choice was named team MVP in 2006. He led the team with a career-high 70 receptions, gaining 893 yards (12.8 avg.) with 10 touchdowns. He rushed 11 times for 76 yards (6.9 avg.) and a score and returned 11 punts for 121 yards (11.0 avg.). He also connected on 2 of 6 passes for 57 yards and a touchdown.

In 44 games at San Jose State, Jones started 21 contests. He caught 126 passes for 1,496 yards (11.2 avg.) and 12 touchdowns. He gained 126 yards with a score on 24 reverses (9.53 avg.) and completed 3 of 7 passes (42.9 percent) for 58 yards and a touchdowns. Jones made nine tackles (six solos) on special teams and returned 42 punts for 307 yards (7.3 avg.).

ANALYSIS
Positives: Solidly built athlete with a lean, yet defined frame, showing good upper body muscle definition, long arms and large, soft hands … Lacks explosion off the snap but does a good job of accelerating throughout his route … Can fill in as a long snapper in an emergency … Runs with good balance and shows above average hand/eye coordination … Can make the tough catches in traffic and then run around defenders with the ball … Has a smooth, gliding running motion, but does not generate an explosive pull-away burst … Does a nice job of scanning the field to find the open area … Uses his hands well to get a push off the defender up field … Will extend and grab for the ball, showing consistent hand skills … Fights for the ball in traffic, generally coming up with it due to his determined attitude and leaping ability … Has the body control and timing on his leaps to compete for the ball at its high point … Best when utilized on hitches as he has the strength to turn a short toss into valid yardage … Makes good body adjustments tracking the ball in flight … Fluid in and out of his breaks and is alert to coverages, settling into the field's soft areas nicely … Shows good urgency getting down field as the gunner on the coverage units.

Negatives: Lacks great timed speed or a second gear to separate … Tends to look lackadaisical going for the ball at times … Needs to develop better shake moves to escape defenders at the line … Rounds his cuts and has had ball concentration lapses as he needs to be more conscious of securing the ball before running with it … Lacks a separation burst and needs to develop better moves to sell the route and surprise the defensive back … For his size, he seems too passive when it comes to blocking, lacking the ability (or desire) to sustain and finish his blocks … Takes soft angles out of his breaks and defensive backs generally stay with him through the route … Even though he has good weight-room strength, it fails to translate to the field, as he will be stopped on initial contact.

Compares To: Ben Obomanu, Seattle Seahawks … Even though he lacks blazing speed, Jones manages to get to most balls thrown his way … He is better suited for hitches and short-area routes but needs to be crisper in his open-field cuts … He is a marginal blocker and not really elusive, as he won't be one that can be used to threaten the deep secondary … However, he reads defenses well and has a knack for finding soft areas on the field.

INJURY REPORT
No injuries reported.

AGILITY TESTS
Campus: 4.59 in the 40-yard dash … Bench pressed 225 pounds 21 times … 35-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-6 broad jump … 32½-inch arm length … 9¾-inch hands … Right-handed.

Combine: 4.6 in the 40-yard dash … 1.63 10-yard dash … 2.67 20-yard dash … 4.2 20-yard shuttle … 11.58 60-yard shuttle … 7.06 three-cone drill … 34-inch vertical jump … 9-foot-11 broad jump … Bench pressed 225 pounds 22 times.

HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Gunderson (San Jose, Calif.) High School, playing football for coaches Jay Carrasco and Chris Bolding … 2001 league Most Valuable Player as a senior at Gunderson High School … First-team All-Central Coast Section choice and played in the 2002 Santa Clara County North-South All-Star Game … In addition to football, he lettered in basketball and track, registering a personal best of 6-foot-8 in the high jump.

PERSONAL
Sociology major … Born March 31, 1984 in San Jose, Calif.

[Partial]

James Jones WR

Who is that? Way to even show who they picked ESPN.

[MadtownPacker]

If I was a Browns fan, I'd be very uneasy.
What should they feel uneasy about? Losing a 1st round pick? Sucking for the last decade hasnt doe them much good. They needed a QB, they got the one they wanted and great OL guy to keep his jersey clean.

[RashanGary]

I had the same initial thought Partial. It almost screams "need reach" but trust if Thompson takes need into consideration it is on the mild end.

Then I watched the vid and read the report. He sounds good. Looks like the typical uncovered stud that Thompson finds.

[MadtownPacker]

"Im still fumando the verde. About to start up on the tequila."

MUH MAN MADTOWN!!!!

I pass on grass....5 years ago, yes....Then I would do another line off some drunk puta's a$$.
Hahahaha!

[Partial]

Why not draft a big receiver? They already have this guy on their roster.

[Tony Oday]

In an hour we will see If we get Moss I would think....

[Bretsky]

http://images.nfl.com/images/draft/2007/mugs/jones_james.jpg
James Jones
Height: 6-1
Weight: 207
Position: Wide Receiver
College: San Jose State
OVERVIEW
The consummate team player, the coaching staff took full advantage of Jones' athletic ability and versatility in 2006. He not only went on to lead the team in receptions, but he also showed a strong throwing arm for the option pass, natural hands to handle punt-return duties and an ability to keep the defenses honest by getting good yardage on the reverse. He went on to score by catching, running and throwing the ball during his final year.

Jones was the 2001 league Most Valuable Player as a senior at Gunderson High School. He was a first-team All-Central Coast Section choice and played in the 2002 Santa Clara County North-South All-Star Game. In addition to football, he lettered in basketball and track, registering a personal best of 6-foot-8 in the high jump.

Deciding to stay local, Jones enrolled at San Jose State in 2002, spending the season on the scout team. He saw minimal action in nine games in 2003, but caught only one pass for 8 yards while recording three tackles. He started six of 11 contests as a sophomore, ranking second on the team with 25 receptions for 317 yards (12.7 average) and a touchdown. He added 80 yards on 11 punt returns (7.3 avg.) and recorded one solo tackle.

As a junior, Jones started just three games but he still finished second on the team with 30 catches for 278 yards (9.3 avg.) and one touchdown. He picked up 48 yards on eight carries (6.0 avg.) and 106 yards on 20 punt returns (5.3 avg.). He also totaled five tackles (four solos) on special teams.

The second-team All-Western Athletic Conference choice was named team MVP in 2006. He led the team with a career-high 70 receptions, gaining 893 yards (12.8 avg.) with 10 touchdowns. He rushed 11 times for 76 yards (6.9 avg.) and a score and returned 11 punts for 121 yards (11.0 avg.). He also connected on 2 of 6 passes for 57 yards and a touchdown.

In 44 games at San Jose State, Jones started 21 contests. He caught 126 passes for 1,496 yards (11.2 avg.) and 12 touchdowns. He gained 126 yards with a score on 24 reverses (9.53 avg.) and completed 3 of 7 passes (42.9 percent) for 58 yards and a touchdowns. Jones made nine tackles (six solos) on special teams and returned 42 punts for 307 yards (7.3 avg.).

ANALYSIS
Positives: Solidly built athlete with a lean, yet defined frame, showing good upper body muscle definition, long arms and large, soft hands … Lacks explosion off the snap but does a good job of accelerating throughout his route … Can fill in as a long snapper in an emergency … Runs with good balance and shows above average hand/eye coordination … Can make the tough catches in traffic and then run around defenders with the ball … Has a smooth, gliding running motion, but does not generate an explosive pull-away burst … Does a nice job of scanning the field to find the open area … Uses his hands well to get a push off the defender up field … Will extend and grab for the ball, showing consistent hand skills … Fights for the ball in traffic, generally coming up with it due to his determined attitude and leaping ability … Has the body control and timing on his leaps to compete for the ball at its high point … Best when utilized on hitches as he has the strength to turn a short toss into valid yardage … Makes good body adjustments tracking the ball in flight … Fluid in and out of his breaks and is alert to coverages, settling into the field's soft areas nicely … Shows good urgency getting down field as the gunner on the coverage units.

Negatives: Lacks great timed speed or a second gear to separate … Tends to look lackadaisical going for the ball at times … Needs to develop better shake moves to escape defenders at the line … Rounds his cuts and has had ball concentration lapses as he needs to be more conscious of securing the ball before running with it … Lacks a separation burst and needs to develop better moves to sell the route and surprise the defensive back … For his size, he seems too passive when it comes to blocking, lacking the ability (or desire) to sustain and finish his blocks … Takes soft angles out of his breaks and defensive backs generally stay with him through the route … Even though he has good weight-room strength, it fails to translate to the field, as he will be stopped on initial contact.

Compares To: Ben Obomanu, Seattle Seahawks … Even though he lacks blazing speed, Jones manages to get to most balls thrown his way … He is better suited for hitches and short-area routes but needs to be crisper in his open-field cuts … He is a marginal blocker and not really elusive, as he won't be one that can be used to threaten the deep secondary … However, he reads defenses well and has a knack for finding soft areas on the field.

INJURY REPORT
No injuries reported.

AGILITY TESTS
Campus: 4.59 in the 40-yard dash … Bench pressed 225 pounds 21 times … 35-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-6 broad jump … 32½-inch arm length … 9¾-inch hands … Right-handed.

Combine: 4.6 in the 40-yard dash … 1.63 10-yard dash … 2.67 20-yard dash … 4.2 20-yard shuttle … 11.58 60-yard shuttle … 7.06 three-cone drill … 34-inch vertical jump … 9-foot-11 broad jump … Bench pressed 225 pounds 22 times.

HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Gunderson (San Jose, Calif.) High School, playing football for coaches Jay Carrasco and Chris Bolding … 2001 league Most Valuable Player as a senior at Gunderson High School … First-team All-Central Coast Section choice and played in the 2002 Santa Clara County North-South All-Star Game … In addition to football, he lettered in basketball and track, registering a personal best of 6-foot-8 in the high jump.

PERSONAL
Sociology major … Born March 31, 1984 in San Jose, Calif.


To Make Mr Jennings Happy, I'd like to pronnounce

WTF

[Packnut]

I had the same initial thought Partial. It almost screams "need reach" but trust if Thompson takes need into consideration it is on the mild end.

Then I watched the vid and read the report. He sounds good. Looks like the typical uncovered stud that Thompson finds.

You need to take a stand up act on the road cause:


YOU FUNNY!

[MadtownPacker]

James Jones WR

Who is that? Way to even show who they picked ESPN.
TT small school sleeper WR pick for the 2007 draft (Murphy, Jennings)?

[motife]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdOaAwitdik

James Jones makes a "play of the day".

[Partial]

BRB guys, going to get pizza. Keep me posted. Do we have another third round pick?

[Bretsky]

James Jones WR

Who is that? Way to even show who they picked ESPN.
TT small school sleeper WR pick for the 2007 draft (Murphy, Jennings)?


It doesn't looked like this guy produced like they did though

[AtlPackFan]

In an hour we will see If we get Moss I would think....

I think if Moss happens, its tomorrow or after...no more tonight. Of course, I am ALWAYS wrong.

[BallHawk]

There goes Mad's guy to the Titans.

[motife]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2006-12/27135149.jpg

San Jose State 20, New Mexico 12

San Jose State University's James Jones (3) and Chester Coleman (86) celebrate Jones' touchdown against New Mexico State University in the second quarter. San Jose State defeated New Mexico State, 20-12, in the New Mexico Bowl at University Stadium in Albuquerque, New Mexico, Saturday, December 23, 2006.
(NHAT V. MEYER, MCT)
Dec 23, 2006

http://media.abqtrib.com/albq/content/img/photos/2006/12/23/web_lobos.jpg

[Tony Oday]

In an hour we will see If we get Moss I would think....

I think if Moss happens, its tomorrow or after...no more tonight. Of course, I am ALWAYS wrong.

I dont think Moss will be had for less than a third...

[MadtownPacker]

In an hour we will see If we get Moss I would think....

I think if Moss happens, its tomorrow or after...no more tonight. Of course, I am ALWAYS wrong.Then say it twice!!

[Joemailman]

James Jones
WR, San Jose State

War Room analysis
Strengths: Is a strong runner after the catch. Can turn short receptions into long touchdowns. Has quickness to separate when running routes with knee bend and good body position. Shows good, strong hands. Shows the toughness to catch slants and crossing routes with linebackers barreling down on him. Is fearless going up for high passes. Is elusive enough to make the first defender miss.

Weaknesses: Lacks elite speed to separate on deep routes. Runs upright too often, hindering ability to make strong, quick cuts.

Bottom line: Jones will be a surprise because of his big-play flair. He should improve with pro experience and become a good receiver with big-play ability.

[chain_gang]

We'll see. I did like your guy Williams, Mad. Really liked Mike Walker, see the jags took him right after the pack's pick.

[Packnut]

James Jones WR

Who is that? Way to even show who they picked ESPN.
TT small school sleeper WR pick for the 2007 draft (Murphy, Jennings)?


It doesn't looked like this guy produced like they did though

That's cause he did'nt produce. Martin and Holliday have nothing to worry about from this guy...........

[packers11]

If we get Moss...

Is that 20 wrs on the packers??? :lol:

Well at least we know fergy has a worse chance of making the roster with all of the people :wink:

[RashanGary]

Jones is talking. He say's his best asset is that he catches everything thrown his way. Sounds like a TT pick. He goes hands before all else it seems.

[AtlPackFan]

In an hour we will see If we get Moss I would think....

I think if Moss happens, its tomorrow or after...no more tonight. Of course, I am ALWAYS wrong.

I dont think Moss will be had for less than a third...

Or "and player".

[Rastak]

Nite all, after 10.5 hours I'm ready to crash..see you for round 4,,,,,

[Tony Oday]

Jones is talking. He say's his best asset is that he catches everything thrown his way. Sounds like a TT pick. He goes hands before all else it seems.

Id rather have the guy that can catch the 5 yard pass rather than a troy williamson who can burn coverage for 50 yards but cant catch...

[MadtownPacker]

There goes Mad's guy to the Titans.Williams?

NOOOOOOOOO!! He should have been the WR TT picked!

Polar Bear I have stood by you always, why have you forsaken me??????

[AtlPackFan]

Nite all, after 10.5 hours I'm ready to crash..see you for round 4,,,,,

Night Rastak. Vikes appear to have a nice draft so far. Thanks too for posting all the player info.

[falco]

FROM JSO

On the NFL Network, Adam Schefter said the Packers are lukewarm towards trading for Randy Moss and the Raiders: 1. have not had any trade discussions today involving Moss; 2. found out it's a buyer's marker for Moss; 3. want to deal Moss at this draft.

Meanwhile, on ESPN, Michael Smith aid the Packers have offered a conditional fourth-round pick for Moss.

(sorry if posted already)

[Packnut]

Ok, bottle empty. Decision time. Should I do a K-Rob and drive to the store? Nah, not sure my Dodge Ram can do 125 mph in case I get pulled over and decide to run! :shock:

[BallHawk]

Gil Brandt of NFL.com says...

"Jones is a tall wide receiver and he runs a 4.54. He's strong (22 reps) and he had a big season last year (70 catches). He makes the short catches that keeps the chains moving.

Pat Kirwan says...

He's a slot guy, and he's going to have to contribute on special teams.

[RashanGary]

Hey guys, we got some weapons.

Happy?

[Bretsky]

The ESPN guys are conveniently not discussing anything about the Packer pick

[falco]

I'm excited about our defense... honestly.

[MadtownPacker]

Nite all, after 10.5 hours I'm ready to crash..see you for round 4,,,,,What a wimp.

[Bretsky]

Yes, I'm happy with our defense

[packers11]

Yes, I'm happy with our defense

me too...


O wait... Manuel is still there... nvm :lol:

[Bretsky]

Tennessee Just drafted Paul Williams

Now Mad can forever compare his career with TT's guy

[Tony Oday]

Nite all, after 10.5 hours I'm ready to crash..see you for round 4,,,,,What a wimp.

hey he is a Vikings fan Im suprised he made it this long ;)

[BallHawk]

Damn, a lot of people leave Radio City early.

If I had tickets I'd stay till the end...

[Bretsky]

Great Pick of Jason Hill be San Fran; they are having a great great offseason

[AtlPackFan]

Do the Pack have another pick???

[AtlPackFan]

Do the Pack have another pick???

I mean today.

[MadtownPacker]

Tennessee Just drafted Paul Williams

Now Mad can forever compare his career with TT's guy
It will be Fergie/Chamber part II :shock:

[Tony Oday]

Do the Pack have another pick???

yup 89

[Lurker64]

It might be the Summit talking, but I'm seeing Scott Chandler (TE, Iowa) with the late 3rd round.

Knowing Thompson, almost certainly not though.

[Tony Oday]

lol it would be nice if the Pack used the 89th pick to get Moss to replace #89 here :)

[BallHawk]

What if we draft Troy Smith? :shock: :shock: :shock:

Please, no.

[packers11]

lol it would be nice if the Pack used the 89th pick to get Moss to replace #89 here :)

Hes #87 now :oops:

[Charles Woodson]

So what position does TT hit next?

[BallHawk]

Jones has got ups.

And then ESPN cuts the attention away from the Pack to talk about Troy Smith.

Bastards. :evil:

[Tony Oday]

lol it would be nice if the Pack used the 89th pick to get Moss to replace #89 here :)

Hes #87 now :oops:

lol ya well he still sucks! :)

[RashanGary]

Congrats on the 100 pages...whew

[pittstang5]

Kiper praised Jones a little...glad he didn't say the Pack totally reached on this pick....not that I care, but at least it was positive

[Bretsky]

TT drafted best available besides QB in round one and now he's going for need and best available combined.

If he goes best available he could draft another RB
If he goes for need I see a TE like Patrick or Chandler coming

[BallHawk]

So what position does TT hit next?

Ben Patrick, FTW!

[Merlin]

Great, another small WR. Gee TT do you know anything about your roster?

[BallHawk]

Great, another small WR. Gee TT do you know anything about your roster?

Have another, Merlin.

[Lurker64]

Great, another small WR. Gee TT do you know anything about your roster?

He's 6'1" and 207 lbs. That's small? I wouldn't say "he has great size", but I certainly wouldn't call him "small."

[Partial]

Ok, bottle empty. Decision time. Should I do a K-Rob and drive to the store? Nah, not sure my Dodge Ram can do 125 mph in case I get pulled over and decide to run! :shock:

Send a booze purchaser

[BallHawk]

Lane Kiffin is painfully awkward in front of the camera.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Aaron Rouse
Tanard Jackson


I wouldn't be mad with one of them.

[Partial]

Aaron Rouse
Tanard Jackson


I wouldn't be mad with one of them.

Is rouse the big safety from Tech?

[GoPackGo]

lets go patrick, jackson, or pittman here...............

[Merlin]

Yeah, that's small in comparison with what we need. We don't need another 6'1" WR.

Driver 6'0" 190
Francis 6'1" 193
Jennings 5' 11" 197
Ferguson 6'1" 210

And this guy is big how?

[Partial]

Who is the third team in the Moss sweepstakes? I really don't think NE takes him now. BTW, they are stacked for a SB run.

[RashanGary]

I think when you get later in the daft there are big clusters of similarly rated guys so you take the need one over the one that you don't need.

I don't think Thompson sways too far from his board. I'm curious what he says after today. If he says "we were true to our board" I'll feel a lot more comfortable.

[Bretsky]

Randy Moss; trade the next pick for Randy Moss

[Merlin]

How many over the middle WR do we need?

[Partial]

Who has been the steal of the draft so far?

[Tony Oday]

Randy Moss; trade the next pick for Randy Moss

agreed