Ref fined for tackling Barnett

[cpk1994]

But Nick didn't do anything.

He came out threatening a grievance...which would've been filed if the NFL had not done anything. The two actions are certainly related to each other, although it is possible Goodell would've fined the ref even without the grievance hanging over the league's head.

Again, I'm not justifying the ref's actions...I'm just pointing out that Barnett tends to be a hot head and that letting a cooler head prevail would be a good lesson for him to learn considering some of the hot water he's gotten involved in.

So what if he is a hothead? What the ref did was wrong and Nick has a right to point that out. Also, this ref had been in trouble for this more than once. Goodel made this decision without Nick's help.

[The Leaper]

So what if he is a hothead? What the ref did was wrong and Nick has a right to point that out. Also, this ref had been in trouble for this more than once. Goodel made this decision without Nick's help.

Let the coach talk to the league officials...don't make it your personal crusade.

If Goodell was going to make the decision anyway, why bother with threatening to file a grievance?

[cpk1994]

So what if he is a hothead? What the ref did was wrong and Nick has a right to point that out. Also, this ref had been in trouble for this more than once. Goodel made this decision without Nick's help.

Let the coach talk to the league officials...don't make it your personal crusade.

If Goodell was going to make the decision anyway, why bother with threatening to file a grievance?

Becuase maybe Nick isn't a psychic who can read Goodells mind.

[Patler]

This will have no repercussions, at all. Per the press release (emphasis mine):

In determining the penalty, the league took into account previous incidents, including Quirk's contact Dec. 16 with Atlanta Falcons FB Jason Snelling on a kickoff return.

Quirk had gotten out of control, plain and simple.
Every player, coach or announcer that I have heard comment on the replay was shocked by what Quirk did, and apparently it was not his first time for being overly aggressive.

This was a dangerous action by Quirk, both to himself and Barnett. What if by grabbing Barnett around the neck and jerking him backward he had caused a whiplash or hyper-extension injury and Barnett had to sit out a couple games? Would your opinions be different? Is the action justified because there was no adverse result, but would not be justified if the result was bad?

[Kiwon]

"In Sports news today.....,

Wait.......we're getting a special report. This is shocking. It seems that Green Bay Packers Middle Linebacker, Nick Barnett, was tragically choked to death during a game when a deranged grandfather rushed onto field and killed him."

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Barnett did the right thing. What the ref did was dumb.

[BEARMAN]

You are right, prolly will not throw flags all over gb, just when it counts, TD's called back, !st downs no good, Defensive pass interferance on the goal line, stuff like that, judgement calls. I think I would have let this one ride, so close to the playoffs.....

[esoxx]

Quirk needed a slap-down. I'm glad he got fined and the next time he's likely out the door. He got what he deserved.

Although I see some are already positioning a built-in excuse for a playoff loss. No doubt it will be the fault of Nick Barnett and his complaints regarding the way over the line choke hold.

Some rogue official will do us in for sure.

[gbgary]

You are right, prolly will not throw flags all over gb, just when it counts, TD's called back, !st downs no good, Defensive pass interferance on the goal line, stuff like that, judgement calls. I think I would have let this one ride, so close to the playoffs.....

you're right. the league can watch as close as they want but a call will be made and that's that. the game will be over and if we get screwed so what. we're done. someone may get fined or fired but guess what...we're still done.

[MadtownPacker]

Re: Ref fined for tackling Barnett

"fined over $8K (1 game check)"

Is this $$ right?? So these guys earn $128,000 for a 16 game season? Damn, they get paid fat.

Patler - This move isn't too dangerous when applied correctly. Because you are getting the soft spot of the neck it kinda immobilizes the person being grabbed. I have seen cops do it several times and no one has ever gotten hurt. Does anyone know if the ref was in law enforcement? It would also explain why he acted so crazy. Off-duty cops always take things too far because well honestly, they can get away with it.

With all the attention brought to this I hope the refs play it straight when officiating the Pack games but if someone wants to make a bad call who is gonna stop them? Last I checked refs dont get fined for making bad calls.

I like Barnett's aggressive behavior but he need to know when to tone it down too.

[MadtownPacker]

You are right, prolly will not throw flags all over gb, just when it counts, TD's called back, !st downs no good, Defensive pass interferance on the goal line, stuff like that, judgement calls. I think I would have let this one ride, so close to the playoffs.....

you're right. the league can watch as close as they want but a call will be made and that's that. the game will be over and if we get screwed so what. we're done. someone may get fined or fired but guess what...we're still done.

Thats what I think too. The call isnt getting reviewed in-game so if a zebra is out for revenge the Pack is screwed. This is like a legal battle against law enforcement. You might win the battle but you aint winning the war.

[Patler]

Re: Ref fined for tackling Barnett

Patler - This move isn't too dangerous when applied correctly. Because you are getting the soft spot of the neck it kinda immobilizes the person being grabbed. I have seen cops do it several times and no one has ever gotten hurt.

The key word is "Correctly". Do NFL officials know how to do it correctly? Are they taught the correct way? I doubt it. Or do we test them and allow those who know how to do it correctly get away with it, and fine those who don't? That doesn't make sense either

The simple fact is that done INCORRECTLY it can lead to a hyper-extended neck. Police do it because they have to, a situation warrants it and hopefully they have been trained in subduing individuals by a number of techniques. Did Quirk have to do this? Of course not. That is why it was out of line. It is potentially dangerous and was not necessary.

I have been trying, without success, to find out what he did in the game a week ago that was also referred to as another incident considered by the NFL in fining him.

[MJZiggy]

Are you sure it was a week ago? I thought they were speaking in generalization over the course of the season, but I could be wrong...

[Jimx29]

QUIRK A BEARS FAN???
Quirk is best known in Packers-Bears lore for his 1989 call against Don Majkowski, claiming the Packers quarterback's foot had crossed the line of scrimmage, and that his 14 - yard touchdown pass to Sterling Sharpe with 32 seconds left was nullified. "Upon further review," replay official Bill Parkinson over-ruled Quirk (who was the line judge for the game) saying "Majik" had not crossed the scrimmage line in his rollout to his right and therefore, awarded the Packers a 14 -13 win over Chicago here at Lambeau Field.

Quirk played football in college, as a linebacker and guard at the University at Delaware.

Confirmed via wikipedia, so take hat for what it's worth

[MadtownPacker]

Re: Ref fined for tackling Barnett

The key word is "Correctly". Do NFL officials know how to do it correctly? Are they taught the correct way? I doubt it. Or do we test them and allow those who know how to do it correctly get away with it, and fine those who don't? That doesn't make sense either

The simple fact is that done INCORRECTLY it can lead to a hyper-extended neck. Police do it because they have to, a situation warrants it and hopefully they have been trained in subduing individuals by a number of techniques. Did Quirk have to do this? Of course not. That is why it was out of line. It is potentially dangerous and was not necessary.

I have been trying, without success, to find out what he did in the game a week ago that was also referred to as another incident considered by the NFL in fining him.

Im not saying it makes sense and it shoudln't be allowed unless the field turns into a royal rumble. Just saying that this official did it perfectly from my view. Thats why I wonder if he has a cop background. Old guy taking out the Pack's stud MLB hurt Nick's ego much more than his neck.