Ref fined for tackling Barnett

[Lurker64]

It matters not witch "team" officiates. Just like us cops, you hurt/injure a brother in blue, and your name is mud, right, wrong, it don't matter ! You have damaged one of theirs, no matter how profesional they want to be, that will be in the back of all their minds ! It may not surface the whole game, untill the game is on the line, and a judgement call gose against your team, and they loose ! Just my .02

I don't think this is quite true, since not a single NFL official does this for a living. They're all investment bankers and lawyers who do this on the weekend because it's fun, they're not really professionals.

[Patler]

It matters not witch "team" officiates. Just like us cops, you hurt/injure a brother in blue, and your name is mud, right, wrong, it don't matter ! You have damaged one of theirs, no matter how profesional they want to be, that will be in the back of all their minds ! It may not surface the whole game, untill the game is on the line, and a judgement call gose against your team, and they loose ! Just my .02

This was the concern that was raised about replay challenges and making officials look bad. It hasn't materialized.

It doesn't matter what MM said, Barnett said or his agent said; the Packers didn't cause this to happen. The NFL did it on its own because of Quirk's actions in successive weeks.

[the_idle_threat]

I don't think officiating crews would call games against the Packers as a whole team because of this, but with his whining about this and the threat of a greivance, Barnett might not get away with anything marginal for a while. And he already plays kind of jacked up and dirty, because attitude is a big part of his game. That's what I'd be woried about. Not a large worry, but I think it can't be dismissed entirely.

And I don't believe the officials have any less pride just because they don't do the job as their primary living. If anything, succesful investment bankers and lawyers who manage to land one of the most visible officating jobs in sports might have an abundance of pride that might be tweaked by being called out by a guy they probably view (with good reason to some degree) as an especially hotheaded punk player.

But then again---on the other hand---if this particular offical is really some kind of hothead and maverick in his own right, maybe his peers can't stand him either and think it's just as well that Barnett threatened a grievance. It's all speculation on our part.

[Patler]

But then again---on the other hand---if this particular offical is really some kind of hothead and maverick in his own right, maybe his peers can't stand him either and think it's just as well that Barnett threatened a grievance. It's all speculation on our part.

In trying to find out about the situation two weeks ago, I ran across an article from 4 or 5 years ago that discussed his out and out tackle of a DB in a similar situation. One player said it was the best hit in the game. It was laughed about by all, including the "tacklee". Apparently he is and has been a physical official.

[Patler]

I don't think officiating crews would call games against the Packers as a whole team because of this, but with his whining about this and the threat of a greivance, Barnett might not get away with anything marginal for a while. And he already plays kind of jacked up and dirty, because attitude is a big part of his game. That's what I'd be woried about. Not a large worry, but I think it can't be dismissed entirely.

Sometimes it seems to work the opposite. Athletes who show up officials in their sports seem to be treated with greater tolerance than others.

[the_idle_threat]

I don't think officiating crews would call games against the Packers as a whole team because of this, but with his whining about this and the threat of a greivance, Barnett might not get away with anything marginal for a while. And he already plays kind of jacked up and dirty, because attitude is a big part of his game. That's what I'd be woried about. Not a large worry, but I think it can't be dismissed entirely.

Sometimes it seems to work the opposite. Athletes who show up officials in their sports seem to be treated with greater tolerance than others.

What is an example of this happening, I wonder? Seems pretty counterintuitive.

[Patler]

I don't think officiating crews would call games against the Packers as a whole team because of this, but with his whining about this and the threat of a greivance, Barnett might not get away with anything marginal for a while. And he already plays kind of jacked up and dirty, because attitude is a big part of his game. That's what I'd be woried about. Not a large worry, but I think it can't be dismissed entirely.

Sometimes it seems to work the opposite. Athletes who show up officials in their sports seem to be treated with greater tolerance than others.

What is an example of this happening, I wonder? Seems pretty counterintuitive.

At the time I was thinking of some of the "bad boy" wide receivers both past and present, who never get called for offensive interference, regardless of what they do. Some have whined, complained and pleaded for defensive interference all the time, and even criticized officiating in the press. Yet, they get away with man-handling DBs at critical times.

I was also thinking of the NBA and its treatment of fan-favorite players.

[the_idle_threat]

At the time I was thinking of some of the "bad boy" wide receivers both past and present, who never get called for offensive interference, regardless of what they do.

Ah yes. One Randy Moss comes to mind. for starters.

This is all conspiracy theory, but I wonder if those non-calls are not due to any special tolerance by the individual officials, but rather a league-wide directive from upstairs that the refs should let offensive star players make plays, because fans wanna see big scoring and their stars succeed? Just a thought. Speculation.

[Patler]

At the time I was thinking of some of the "bad boy" wide receivers both past and present, who never get called for offensive interference, regardless of what they do.

Ah yes. One Randy Moss comes to mind. for starters.

For me it was Michael Irvin.

[MadtownPacker]

Sometimes it seems to work the opposite. Athletes who show up officials in their sports seem to be treated with greater tolerance than others.

What is an example of this happening, I wonder? Seems pretty counterintuitive.

Jordan.

But trying to apply this thinking to Barnett doesn't work because he isnt considered elite and so far has made a rep for himself as a semi-maniac.

[packinpatland]

I got it!!!

The official that brought down Barnett, overheard the Bears offense offering up a Bud Lite! That has to be the reason.

Why has no one figured this out yet?

[]{ilr]3]

At the time I was thinking of some of the "bad boy" wide receivers both past and present, who never get called for offensive interference, regardless of what they do.

Ah yes. One Randy Moss comes to mind. for starters.

This is all conspiracy theory, but I wonder if those non-calls are not due to any special tolerance by the individual officials, but rather a league-wide directive from upstairs that the refs should let offensive star players make plays, because fans wanna see big scoring and their stars succeed? Just a thought. Speculation.

I was thinking Moss to! Seems like half the high lights you see of him he will be pushing off a defender that would have drawn a penalty for most WR.

[MJZiggy]

But at least this week, it didn't come to pass. We were only penalized twice for 25 yards. I'm thinking it's forgotten.

[MadtownPacker]

So much for the talk of quirk not being in the playoffs. His suspension was mentioned during the JAX/PITT game while he was out there looking to earn another Bud Light.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA4T5iRERo0&feature=related