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  • #1

    Grant and Peterson Compared

    Here are the production stats for each runner's first year.

    ..................YDs......TDs......Games
    Peterson.....1341.....12........14
    Grant..........956........8........10

    Now here are those stats projected to a 16-game season - as if Peterson hadn't hurt his leg and missed two games and as if Grant would have had a full training camp to learn the Packers system and played the whole year.

    ..................YDs......TDs
    Peterson.....1533.....14
    Grant..........1530.....13

    Both backs averaged more than 5 yrds/carry (Peterson 5.6 and Grant 5.1).
    While the Packers have the better passing game to keep defenses honest, most would say the Vikes have the better line to pave the way.

    I am not going to say that Ryan Grant is as physically gifted as Adrian Peterson, but obviously he has made the most of his opportunity and has been extremely productive.

    This is no disrespect to Adrian Peterson, because he's fast powerful and shifty, but his record-breaking game has given him the media hype that vaulted him into national prominence (and also pulled his stats up), while Ryan Grant has been more consistent and sneaky fast, powerful and shifty.

    Peterson is 6'2", 217 lbs. and ran a 4.40 40 at the combine.
    Grant is 6'1", 224 lbs. and ran a 4.43 40 at the combine.
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  • #2
    Peterson is much better than Grant, but Grant is solid. Peterson is to Eric Dickerson what Grant is to Dorsey Levens. I was one of the first on the Grant bandwagon.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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    • #3
      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
      Peterson is much better than Grant
      Based on what?

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      • #4
        Holy smokes.

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        • #5
          Man, that's crazy info.

          I aint gonna claim Grant is a talented as peterson but he makes the most of his opportunities when he gets them. He has big play ability that I haven't seen since Ahman in '03. He is why I let myself believe the Packers can make a charge in the playoffs. Jackson having his first 100yd game yesterday wasn't a bad thing either.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by vince
            Based on what?
            Have you watched Peterson play?
            "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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            • #7
              Uh yes I've watched Peterson play. I asked you what you're basing your statement on. I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with it - except to question the extent of the "much" in the statement.

              Have you watched Grant play?

              To compare him to Dorsey Levens is doing him a serious disservice.

              In 10 games, Grant has more than half (5) the number of 100 yard games that Dorsey Levens had (9) in his 144 game career.

              Ryan Grant will blow Dorsey Levens' production out of the water.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by vince
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Peterson is much better than Grant
                Based on what?

                Talent and Ability
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • #9
                  Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing with either you or Harvey Bretsky, or trying to get in your face, but in the absence of any substantive response other than "much better than" or "talent and ability", it's impossible to know specifically what you're talking about.

                  I'm not taking anything away from Peterson. He could be a 2000 yard ground gainer, if his jukey, upright style of running doesn't get him hurt...

                  I also think a lot of people are not fully appreciating the real Ryan Grant. He's good - real good - and productive. He may also stay healthier than Peterson, based on his straightline, hard, behind-his-pads running style.

                  Does Peterson's quicker feet make him "much" better, more talented and able? Whatever that is, if it means equal production, do you care?

                  Fans tend to fawn over (and the league and media tend to play up) certain "sexy" characteristics about players that may or may not translate into actual increased production over some other more "meat and potatoes" player whose different style is every bit as productive.

                  Which is what counts - right?

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                  • #10
                    I've VERY Happy with Ryan Grant and was a supporter for him off the bat.

                    It's my view that AP has

                    Better Vision
                    Better ability to make others miss
                    And more Power than Ryan Grant

                    And I'm not cutting on Grant. But I think Peterson is one of the top 4 RB's in the NFL. Possibly the top 2 after next year. An incredible talent.
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #11
                      Definitely agree on Peterson's ability to make others miss and also that he is quicker than Grant - both of which are the epitome of what you look for in an elite back.

                      I'm not sure about vision. Grant has great vision. It's at the foundation of his success in the zone blocking scheme. It helps him quickly determine where the first hole is, then to immediately gauge the second level as he's penetrating the hole. Grant's ability to get to the second level - then almost immediately make people not so much miss him, but be unable to get a good angle on him in the first place - separates him from a lot of backs.

                      In many ways, Grant's success is due to a confluence of what he does well and the Packer's running system, whereas Peterson's feet would enable him to excel in ANY system (if he can stay relatively healthy, which I think could be a problem for him).

                      I think they both will have great careers if they stay healthy. It'll be interesting to see how they evolve in the years to come.

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                      • #12
                        AP really tailed off after the LCL tear. He was on pace for some wicked numbers. For a rookie to dominate the way he did is impressive.

                        I love Grant, but Peterson is hands down the better RB. I read where a NFL scout called Peterson the best running back he's seen in the league since Barry Sanders. Heady praise.

                        For the #6 pick in the draft, MN struck gold.

                        For a 6th round pick, GB stole one from the Giants.

                        Both franchises are happy with their backs and should be.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by vince
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Peterson is much better than Grant
                          Based on what?
                          Talent.


                          I like Grant. I like him alot.

                          Peterson? Gains 2000 yards in the Big 12 straight out of high school.

                          In his rookie season he sets the all-time single game rushing record.

                          How long has the league been around? Some 80 years or so?


                          Grant is a real find. I ain't bad mouthing him.

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                          • #14
                            What is the difference in AP and Grant if you measured them with the stat of yards/Salary dollar? Grant would be significantly the better player/bargain. In this age of FA I would easily take a guy who is only slightly less productive, at a tenth of the cost.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cheesner
                              What is the difference in AP and Grant if you measured them with the stat of yards/Salary dollar? Grant would be significantly the better player/bargain. In this age of FA I would easily take a guy who is only slightly less productive, at a tenth of the cost.

                              Unless you are pressed against the salary cap the only person who would care was the owners acountant, right?

                              I like your guy and you are welcome to him. The Vikings are loaded with cap room next year as are the Packers. That would be the LEAST of my worries.
                              Dead assed last.

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