Big Unit says it is up to Favre

[HarveyWallbangers]

Harv, that was a team loss all around the board, coaching staff, offensive line, defense, everyone had blame, some more than most. Favre's throw in overtime was unbelievably ridiculous. There was no reason for it, it was mind bottling. Worst throw of his career. Unexplainable really, even the excuse that he thought the receiver picked up the blitz and ran a fly route, but there were two Eagles camped out under the ball, even if Walker ran the right route he would have had to fight them off for at best an incompletion.

It was a bad throw at the worst time. I'd blame that throw as the third biggest reason we lost that game, but he had played well enough to win that game up to that point. We had given the Eagles so many chances that I just knew something like that would give them the game. The worst thing about the throw is that it was returned so far. It was heaved down the field, and you'd hope the guy wouldn't return it 40 yards and put them in FG range. For me, it's tough to blame the QB on that day. He had one turnover and kept the team in the game against a solid Eagles squad in Philly. Great teams find a way to win that game, and then the QBs one mistake is hidden. Of course, it hurts that the one mistake was the last big mistake.

The week before he went 26 of 38 for 318 with 1 TD and 0 interceptions or fumbles, so he played well for the equivalent of two full games, and he's remembered for the bad throw late.

When you've put your team in position to win so many teams over 16 years, you are going to have good games and bad games. He's had great playoff games: Detroit in 1993, Atlanta and San Francisco in 1995, San Francisco in 2001, Seattle in 2003, pretty much all of the games in the Super Bowl years. Hell, if the refs had called Jerry Rice's obvious fumble correctly against San Fran in 1998, Favre would have been remembered for leading the team for a great game winning TD. The bad: Atlanta, Minnesota, St. Louis, the throw against Philadelphia.

[MJZiggy]

The week before he went 26 of 38 for 318 with 1 TD and 0 interceptions or fumbles, so he played well for the equivalent of two full games, and he's remembered for the bad throw late.

I had forgotten all about it...

[b bulldog]

Actually brady had the Pats driving to take the lead and he threw the bad pass which was picked. The Pats D was bad but Brady puit the final dagger in the Pats with the bad pass he threw. This is the same as I see the Eagles game. We had numerous opprotunities to win the game but that moonshot by Favre was the dagger that sealed it. You can have a QB play a perfect game, than he throws the game changing pic and that will be all you remember about that QB in that game. This was basicly what Eli Manning did against the Pats last weekend.

[b bulldog]

In all honesty, no one play really ever loses you a game. You could pick the film apart ,to show all of your deficiencies, which in the end, cost you the game.

[b bulldog]

Most of his bad games were his recent playoff games. He also laid a huge egg in dallas this season. I hope he doesn't do this again in the playoffs this year.

[Zool]

In all honesty, no one play really ever loses you a game. You could pick the film apart ,to show all of your deficiencies, which in the end, cost you the game.

Tell that to Neil O'Donnell

[woodbuck27]

OK I've read enough.

We have to look at this as another chance for the Packers and Favre to get to the show. I agree that he didn't act as he had all season when he got to Dallas. Favre definitely needs a head man to motivate him towords staying on the cool. To be patient.

If he has a really bad game in either of the next two

I think it will take more than just MM to get it there. Favrer has to not get all hyped up or pumped. If he gets in the right zone I see us going to the Super Bowl. The NFC is really not looking that great at the present.

Heck 'the Redskins' could very well advance out of the 6th seed. I would rather we play Seattle than Washington next weekend. It will come down for the best part of it to Brett Favre and execution but let's not forget the importance of the running game (that's up a few points - as stock) and our defense. We also have to get soild ST play as well.

Which team has the best basics is where it's at. MM and crew have worked all off season and to now to ensure we are prepared. We sem to be getting healthier as well and the return of Bubba Franks is encouraging.

MM has worked all off season till now to get just where we are and I really see us advancing to the NFC Championship.

Why not us? It will be a load on Favre but he has the skills and ability. He also has a youngish and hopefully properly spirited Pack ALL with him.

[b bulldog]

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[woodbuck27]

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Favre wants it so here it is!! He definitely has the experience and knowledge of what it takes and what he has not to do to give us our best chance.

He won't get a better one to way things look to me between him and our GM.

It's wide open for us the way Romo is looking of late and the high ankle sprain to TO will take 3-4 weeks to get him back 100% b bulldog. Seattle hasn't got it's running game in gear and they are not consistent or a great offensive force.

The Giants or the BUCS? Nope !

I seriously consider the Redskins as tough as anyone remaining in the NFC with Joe Gibbs as HC. That's a BIG plus for them plus a running game and Portis if he's close to 100%.

I watched the game bet. the Redskins and the Vikings a couple of weeks ago and Gibbs flat out - outcoached Brad ' Man of too much gum chewing ' Childress. Man I'd hate to have to play for that man. He's a wreck.

Hey Rastak what are y'all going to do with that fella? He's all jacked up about three times more than Favre has ever been. When I was watching the two sidelines I couldn't believe I placed any confidence in the Vikings with Joe Gibbs as HC on the other side.

Favre is hungry.So is Gibbs.

[b bulldog]

If we are unable to get out of the NFC, I hope the Skins make it to the SB.

[woodbuck27]

If we are unable to get out of the NFC, I hope the Skins make it to the SB.

Yup. For Joe Gibbs for sure. A nice story there.

[Deputy Nutz]

Harv, that was a team loss all around the board, coaching staff, offensive line, defense, everyone had blame, some more than most. Favre's throw in overtime was unbelievably ridiculous. There was no reason for it, it was mind bottling. Worst throw of his career. Unexplainable really, even the excuse that he thought the receiver picked up the blitz and ran a fly route, but there were two Eagles camped out under the ball, even if Walker ran the right route he would have had to fight them off for at best an incompletion.

It was a bad throw at the worst time. I'd blame that throw as the third biggest reason we lost that game, but he had played well enough to win that game up to that point. We had given the Eagles so many chances that I just knew something like that would give them the game. The worst thing about the throw is that it was returned so far. It was heaved down the field, and you'd hope the guy wouldn't return it 40 yards and put them in FG range. For me, it's tough to blame the QB on that day. He had one turnover and kept the team in the game against a solid Eagles squad in Philly. Great teams find a way to win that game, and then the QBs one mistake is hidden. Of course, it hurts that the one mistake was the last big mistake.

The week before he went 26 of 38 for 318 with 1 TD and 0 interceptions or fumbles, so he played well for the equivalent of two full games, and he's remembered for the bad throw late.

When you've put your team in position to win so many teams over 16 years, you are going to have good games and bad games. He's had great playoff games: Detroit in 1993, Atlanta and San Francisco in 1995, San Francisco in 2001, Seattle in 2003, pretty much all of the games in the Super Bowl years. Hell, if the refs had called Jerry Rice's obvious fumble correctly against San Fran in 1998, Favre would have been remembered for leading the team for a great game winning TD. The bad: Atlanta, Minnesota, St. Louis, the throw against Philadelphia.

I totally agree, lets not forget Bidwell kicking the ball into the endzone from 35 yards out.

[motife]

wow, great (detailed) memories.

I'm very appreciative of Favre, believe me.

Favre has observed himself that he can be a Jekyll and Hyde. In fact, I defy anyone to name NFL QB's who have dug themselves out of as many holes of their own making as Favre has, and won the game.

You can get the play by play of any game at the NFL website.

Here's the Philly game :

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay?game_id=26648&displayPage=tab_play_by_play&season=2003&week=POST19

[RashanGary]

Favre is a GREAT competitior
Favre has a GREAT arm
Favre is an accurate passer
Favre practices and plays full speed
Favre is a GREAT leader
Favre is an intinctive football player
Favre has great escapablity
Favre can throw as good as anyone from unusual platforms


There are probably about 50 other compliments to Favres game that people could give.


Favre makes a lot of really stupid decisions that cost us big games.

There, he has flaw too. It doesn't mean he's not good, but him being good doesn't mean he doesn't have a flaw either. Leaper made a post saying Favre is great, so we shouldn't criticize the thing he does so poorly. Favre has to play better than he has in past playoffs. It's that simple.

[The Leaper]

Favre makes a lot of really stupid decisions that cost us big games.

JH, you go overboard. Yes, he has made a few poor decisions. He certainly has not made a lot of really stupid decisions.

He has won more postseason games because of his good decisions than he has lost them with poor decisions. We just forget how great he was under Holmgren because of his more recent failures that are fresher in our memory. Favre needs a coach that can reign him in and keep him focused. Sherman let him run wild, and we all know what happened as a result.